Title: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: Mark A on January 02, 2024, 22:08:11 Via Twitter, a passenger flow map.
Mark https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/station.md Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: grahame on January 03, 2024, 08:01:57 Via Twitter, a passenger flow map. Mark https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/station.md Fascinating. https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/README.md Quote kingfisher Using the Office of Road and Rail 2021/22 passenger travel data projected onto a shortest-path network using the centre-line track-model this project looks to create visualisation for passenger journey numbers for the active rail stations across the British rail network. Quote Apache License 2.0 A permissive license whose main conditions require preservation of copyright and license notices. Contributors provide an express grant of patent rights. Licensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code. Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: Red Squirrel on January 03, 2024, 09:41:40 A very interesting visualisation. Looking at PAD, you can see how some bright spark out of Tufton St might conclude that the network would turn a good profit if only they closed all the other stations on the western route. On the other hand, looking at smaller stations you can see how they give people access to longer regional journeys - which is why we need more of them!
Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: grahame on January 03, 2024, 10:44:47 A very interesting visualisation. Looking at PAD, you can see how some bright spark out of Tufton St might conclude that the network would turn a good profit if only they closed all the other stations on the western route. On the other hand, looking at smaller stations you can see how they give people access to longer regional journeys - which is why we need more of them! I have taken a local look - very interesting to see the wide regional and national travel opportunities that are taken up from a simple station serving a medium sized market town (http://www.wellho.net/pix/mkm_tick_22z.jpg) Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: Mark A on January 03, 2024, 12:49:29 Via Twitter, a passenger flow map. Mark https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/station.md Fascinating. https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/README.md Quote kingfisher Using the Office of Road and Rail 2021/22 passenger travel data projected onto a shortest-path network using the centre-line track-model this project looks to create visualisation for passenger journey numbers for the active rail stations across the British rail network. Quote Apache License 2.0 A permissive license whose main conditions require preservation of copyright and license notices. Contributors provide an express grant of patent rights. Licensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code. Thanks for that link which has helped a bit. Me: not yet in a position to explain what it is the maps for individual stations show, i.e. I don't (yet) understand what it is that's been done here. Mark Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: grahame on January 03, 2024, 13:49:36 Thanks for that link which has helped a bit. Me: not yet in a position to explain what it is the maps for individual stations show, i.e. I don't (yet) understand what it is that's been done here. I had to scratch my head for a few minutes too (http://www.wellho.net/pix/xpdmh.jpg) OK - journeys ticketed to / from Dilton Marsh in the year April 2021 to May 2022. Each line on the map shows the train routing taken by the most direct passenger line for each ticket sold, and the thickness indicates the number of journeys. So - none of the individual flows broad enough to show substantial thickening and an indication of the furthest journeys sold being to Plymouth, Llanelli, etc. Nothing beyond Brighton or Ipswich. By contrast - lots of regional and long distance stuff from Melksham. Some odd looking gaps until you realise that shortest route to Bridgwater is via Taunton and to Weston is via Bristol. I noted Stansted, Heathrow, Gatwick, Fishguard and Holyhead all mapped. No journeys to Rye, Llandrindod, Newquay, and a data error in that it this East West Rail is already open. The regional stuff is significant in that it brings people in to the town (http://www.wellho.net/pix/xpmkm.jpg) Final example is Bath and here the numbers are high enough to thicken the lines and virtually the whole network is shown, with lines that are accessed from both ends broken in the middle! The only places I thing are missed are a few like Ledbury and Colwall (http://www.wellho.net/pix/xpbth.jpg) Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: jamestheredengine on January 03, 2024, 22:36:42 Via Twitter, a passenger flow map. What's the dataset underlying this?Mark https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/station.md Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: eightonedee on January 03, 2024, 22:45:18 Thanks Grahame for your thoughts..
I wonder - how did they account for season tickets? Does each ticket for the journey between two points count as "one"? In my case, when I was doing two days a week as a consultant during my last two years, and usually travelling off-peak during the pandemic hybrid working regime (having acquired my senior rail card, to "replace" the discounts on my former Gold Card annual), I was buying a return each day I travelled rather than one annual season for the whole year, so potentially would have been contributing many more registrations between Goring and Guildford than when I was doing the journey most working days. Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: Hafren on January 03, 2024, 23:12:03 Something interesting to browse. Presumably over time it will be possible to look at how flows change over time. I wonder if enough historic data is available to show patterns pre- and post-Covid if someone has the inclination to do this. I note that the most recent individual station stats have included most common origin/destination for each station for the first time, so perhaps the more detailed dataset has only been made available more recently.
The broken lines show that routes indicated often aren't the actual routes taken. Still useful and interesting, but perhaps showing dots (size indicating flow volume) for each origin/destination would be better. However in dense areas the lines may well be clearer, which perhaps influenced the way it's presented. As with the usual station stats, I wonder if more distant destinations are under-represented as a result of split ticketing, or indeed if common split-points have inflated figures, or if these are still drowned out by the number of passengers who just buy a the full-route ticket. I wonder - how did they account for season tickets? Does each ticket for the journey between two points count as "one"? I assume season tickets are calculated in the same way as the individual station stats that are released annually; I would guess the answer is somewhere in the published methodology information that I think is published the station stats. The GWR delay repay calculation figures suggest a possible methodology: weekly ticket: 1/10 of the ticket price flexi season ticket: 1/16 of the price monthly ticket: 1/40 of the ticket price annual ticket: 1/464 of the ticket price A similar question arises over stations often accessed with travelcard/zonal type tickets - especially London suburbs. I assume there's a standard methodology for guestimating this but there may be some under-representation going on. Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: Hafren on January 03, 2024, 23:14:01 Via Twitter, a passenger flow map. What's the dataset underlying this?Mark https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blob/main/station.md Some info here: https://github.com/anisotropi4/kingfisher/blame/main/README.md Title: Re: Passenger flow map for UK stations Post by: grahame on January 04, 2024, 04:14:10 Data set methodology for the annual returns for station entrance and exit estimates may be found at:
https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/1917/station-usage-quality-and-methodology-report.pdf and see the base of page 16 and top of page 17 for season ticket figures. I would expect the same base data to have been used to extract the data flows, especially as ORR has added the most common destination from each station this year. This report also directs you on to: https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/1904/station-usage-steer-methodology-report.pdf This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |