Title: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: CyclingSid on December 06, 2023, 07:22:26 Release time -09:30
Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 06, 2023, 07:37:15 Release time -09:30 I wondered when that was coming - thanks for the heads up! Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 06, 2023, 13:15:25 Release time -09:30 I wondered when that was coming - thanks for the heads up! Err ... maybe 09:30, but on 14th December? :D Title: rail passenger footfall release date Post by: infoman on December 14, 2023, 06:47:54 is today,
Thursday 14 December 2023,is there an official time of this announcement? Title: Re: rail passenger footfall release date Post by: grahame on December 14, 2023, 08:25:07 is today, Thursday 14 December 2023,is there an official time of this announcement? 09:30, I understand - see thread in the diary (I will move and merge in a few minutes) Title: Re: rail passenger footfall release date Post by: infoman on December 14, 2023, 10:12:17 okay
Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Mark A on December 14, 2023, 10:12:55 Well, The crown passes to Liverpool Street, favoured by a new line but perhaps other factors at play at Waterloo.
Mark https://www.orr.gov.uk/search-news/all-change-most-used-stations-elizabeth-line-shakes-top-10 (https://www.orr.gov.uk/search-news/all-change-most-used-stations-elizabeth-line-shakes-top-10) Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 14, 2023, 10:39:50 Quick extract of GWR managed stations ...
6581606 OXF Oxford 5468466 BTH Bath Spa 4527632 SLO Slough 3239874 MAI Maidenhead 2617322 EXD Exeter St David's 2608384 EXC Exeter Central 2588014 SWI Swindon (Wilts) 2329704 DID Didcot Parkway 2313092 PLY Plymouth 1965252 CNM Cheltenham Spa 1823646 BPW Bristol Parkway 1580166 WNC Windsor and Eton Central 1452948 GCR Gloucester 1444874 CPM Chippenham 1398098 TAU Taunton 1208000 NBY Newbury 1155346 NTA Newton Abbot 1100592 TRU Truro 1081660 TWY Twyford 939804 WSM Weston-Super-Mare 898376 EXM Exmouth 890980 DIG Digby and Sowton 734768 TRO Trowbridge 720062 SIV St Ives (Cornwall) 691384 TGM Teignmouth 687394 TOT Totnes 636400 PGN Paignton 608640 CFN Clifton Down 606832 HOT Henley-On-Thames 564724 PNZ Penzance 545068 STD Stroud (Gloucs) 536940 BNP Barnstaple 524190 TVP Tiverton Parkway 521474 FIT Filton Abbey Wood 518996 WSB Westbury 510574 DWL Dawlish 455448 TQY Torquay 452506 YAT Yatton 431288 SAU St Austell 428728 BWT Bridgwater 426700 BOA Bradford-On-Avon 421572 DPD Dorking (Deepdene) 419444 FNN Farnborough North 418586 KYN Keynsham 414450 NLS Nailsea and Backwell 364854 SER St Erth 362898 THA Thatcham 352838 KEM Kemble 334658 WOP Worcestershire Parkway 331844 TRR Torre 328990 RED Redruth 321370 PAN Pangbourne 320938 BAW Blackwater 320010 TLH Tilehurst 319340 WOR Worle 311814 CLC Castle Cary 310158 LSK Liskeard 297810 OLF Oldfield Park 295808 CBN Camborne 295452 WMN Warminster 289840 RDW Reading West 288174 GOR Goring and Streatley 282980 THE Theale 269072 MIM Moreton-In-Marsh 264396 EXT Exeter St Thomas 262498 HND Hanborough 261416 BOD Bodmin Parkway 257574 PYN Penryn (Cornwall) 257350 CBY Charlbury 255378 MLW Marlow 245142 EVE Evesham 243512 FMT Falmouth Town 238106 YAE Yate 233060 DWW Dawlish Warren 232220 HIG Highbridge and Burnham 229822 HGD Hungerford 228566 SVB Severn Beach 227632 TOP Topsham 226768 CBB Carbis Bay 219520 BMY Bramley (Hampshire) 212398 CHO Cholsey 211718 SRD Stapleton Road 209412 NCM North Camp 209022 LWH Lawrence Hill 207088 FRO Frome 206270 KGM Kingham 194980 PAR Par 194058 BNE Bourne End 190800 CRN Crowthorne 182976 CDU Cam and Dursley 181100 PEW Pewsey 178116 PNM Penmere 169540 MTP Montpelier 159258 POL Polsloe Bridge 158136 RDA Redland 157108 SHU Stonehouse 157036 PSN Parson Street 151602 COO Cookham 147106 YVP Yeovil Pen Mill 145908 NCO Newcourt 137008 STS Saltash 133176 CDI Crediton 129848 NQY Newquay 126974 HYL Hayle 125122 SND Sandhurst (Berks) 123394 FAL Falmouth Docks 122814 SJP St James Park (Exeter) 121002 MOR Mortimer 116530 FZP Furze Platt 115260 LOO Looe 109936 AVN Avonmouth 107120 SCS Starcross 103874 PSH Pershore 103246 BMT Bedminster 102132 RAD Radley 100900 IVY Ivybridge 94086 WNM Weston Milton 85768 HYB Honeybourne 83728 NRC Newbury Racecourse 83160 LYC Lympstone Commando 83042 LYM Lympstone Village 82196 DCW Dorchester West 81830 ASC Ashchurch for Tewkesbury 81534 BDW Bedwyn 80752 CUM Culham 78466 SHI Shiplake 77776 PWY Patchway 75132 SFR Shalford (Surrey) 72356 LOS Lostwithiel 68724 WGV Wargrave 67124 SHH Shirehampton 66670 CBP Castle Bar Park 65194 KIT Kintbury 64782 SGM St Germans 64206 MKM Melksham 62422 SML Sea Mills 50602 AMT Aldermaston 50572 GSL Gunnislake 47628 GOM Gomshall 46238 BRU Bruton 45908 UMB Umberleigh 44094 FFD Freshford 43722 EGG Eggesford 34970 DPT Devonport 33452 DKT Dorking West 32440 MDG Midgham 31926 PRW Perranwell 31616 CSK Calstock 31412 HYD Heyford 31090 BAS Bere Alston 30380 COP Copplestone 25160 LEL Lelant 23712 CHL Chilworth 23402 AVF Avoncliff 23370 EXN Exton 21902 YEO Yeoford 20898 TAC Tackley 20706 SGN South Greenford 19566 MDN Maiden Newton 17322 SAR St Andrews Road 17114 MRD Morchard Road 16082 DRG Drayton Green 13530 KEY Keyham 12368 BTO Betchworth 12076 DMH Dilton Marsh 11258 BFE Bere Ferrers 8960 DOC Dockyard (Devonport) 8098 SBV St Budeaux Victoria Road 7234 APF Appleford 6828 YET Yetminster 6620 BGL Bugle 6226 LAP Lapford 4908 ROC Roche 4242 NTC Newton St Cyres 3908 KGN Kings Nympton 3634 MEN Menheniot 3038 QUI Quintrell Downs 2916 THO Thornford 2794 SCR St Columb Road 2522 LUX Luxulyan 2508 SBF St Budeaux Ferry Road 2354 SIP Shipton 2048 CNO Chetnole 1628 AUW Ascott-Under-Wychwood 1588 CAU Causeland 1524 SKN St Keyne Wishing Well Halt 1398 CME Combe (Oxon) 1154 SDP Sandplace 798 PMA Portsmouth Arms 706 FIN Finstock 652 LTS Lelant Saltings 338 PIL Pilning 194 CPN Chapelton (Devon) 120 COE Coombe Junction Halt Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 14, 2023, 10:57:02 Network Rail stations of note ....
9291680 BRI Bristol Temple Meads 20790150 CLJ Clapham Junction 5284714 GLD Guildford 59182926 PAD London Paddington 57789780 WAT London Waterloo 12400988 RDG Reading ... to be added, South Wales and South Western stations served by GWR Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: ChrisB on December 14, 2023, 11:02:59 59182926 PAD London Paddington 57789780 WAT London Waterloo So WAT slips to third, behind LIV and PAD then. Is Guildford a NR run station? SWR surely? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 14, 2023, 11:28:30 59182926 PAD London Paddington 57789780 WAT London Waterloo So WAT slips to third, behind LIV and PAD then. Is Guildford a NR run station? SWR surely? I believe is IS Network Rail - services from Great Western, South Western and formerly Cross Country. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: ChrisB on December 14, 2023, 11:41:51 It is - an oddity, not particularly large, or strategic. Probably ought to lie with SWR?
The NR stations are - Birmingham New Street Bristol Temple Meads Clapham Junction Edinburgh Waverley Glasgow Central Guildford Leeds City Liverpool Lime Street London Bridge London Cannon Street London Charing Cross London Euston London King’s Cross London Liverpool Street London Paddington London St Pancras International London Victoria London Waterloo Manchester Piccadilly Reading Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: stuving on December 14, 2023, 11:52:02 It is - an oddity, not particularly large, or strategic. Probably ought to lie with SWR? It was only transferred in 2018 - from an NR statement at the time: Quote Network Rail have taken over Guildford and Clapham Junction stations to support ongoing delivery of the Railway Upgrade Plan. The stations became Network Rail managed stations earlier this month to support the major schemes planned for both stations, which will be led by Network Rail. A £150 million redevelopment of Guildford station has been approved by the planning inspectorate and Network Rail also has aspirations to increase train capacity with a new platform and track works. At Clapham Junction, Network Rail is developing options to relieve congestion in the short term and investigating the feasibility of a more significant station redevelopment in the longer-term. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 14, 2023, 14:15:51 Very impressive showing for Worcestershire Parkway.
Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Noggin on December 14, 2023, 16:01:34 You missed Okehampton I think. Comes under Dartmoor Railway in the tables.
Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 14, 2023, 18:08:55 You missed Okehampton I think. Comes under Dartmoor Railway in the tables. Hear are a load of the missing ones that GWR serve: 11693876 WIM Wimbledon 10185022 CDF Cardiff Central 5495672 SOU Southampton Central 5118228 PUT Putney 4004066 BSK Basingstoke 2339566 NWP Newport (South Wales) 1883574 SWA Swansea 1775756 FTN Fratton 1746574 PMH Portsmouth Harbour 1707210 PMS Portsmouth and Southsea 1621562 SAL Salisbury 1560326 WKM Wokingham 1415156 FRM Fareham 1133284 BGN Bridgend 1089664 ESL Eastleigh 1079070 SOA Southampton Airport Parkway 765158 CSA Cosham 666058 NTH Neath 641612 WEY Weymouth 471848 PTA Port Talbot Parkway 384366 ROM Romsey 366450 AXM Axminster 339596 HDE Hedge End 310290 WNS Winnersh 298074 HLS Hilsea 292606 CMN Carmarthen 288228 HON Honiton 277934 GIL Gillingham (Dorset) 273736 LLE Llanelli 228272 OKE Okehampton 179318 WCH Whitchurch (Hampshire) 179132 WTI Winnersh Triangle 170474 YVJ Yeovil Junction 166352 PIN Pinhoe 157562 CKN Crewkerne 151630 TIS Tisbury 128806 CFR Chandlers Ford 103238 CBK Cranbrook (Devon) 83500 SAN Sandown 68276 TMC Templecombe 52048 FNT Feniton 43128 UPW Upwey 39808 WHM Whimple 28894 RDB Redbridge 28230 DEN Dean (Wilts) 25426 MBK Millbrook (Hants) 24412 DBG Mottisfont and Dunbridge Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: lympstone_commuter on December 14, 2023, 22:12:41 I've updated my clickable map to include the 2023 figures:
https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm (https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm) (Follow the link to the map and then click on a station to see the time-series) The time-series show that the post-COVID bounceback is pretty much complete in Devon and Cornwall. Also (as noted elsewhere) the Elizabeth Line effect is very clear at Paddington and Liverpool Street! Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Surrey 455 on December 14, 2023, 22:17:01 Hear are a load of the missing ones that GWR serve: 11693876 WIM Wimbledon I've never seen a GWR train at Wimbledon. Surely you mean SWR? ;D Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: stuving on December 14, 2023, 23:02:19 Hear are a load of the missing ones that GWR serve: 11693876 WIM Wimbledon I've never seen a GWR train at Wimbledon. Surely you mean SWR? ;D Looking at the 2021 GWR network map, some other places are not served - Chandler's Ford, Templecombe, Honiton, Whitchurch ... I can see why some those might be on a diversionary route, but Wimbledon is a bit of a stretch for that. And as for Putney ?? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Red Squirrel on December 14, 2023, 23:07:17 I've updated my clickable map to include the 2023 figures: https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm (https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm) (Follow the link to the map and then click on a station to see the time-series) The time-series show that the post-COVID bounceback is pretty much complete in Devon and Cornwall. Also (as noted elsewhere) the Elizabeth Line effect is very clear at Paddington and Liverpool Street! Thanks, really useful! Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: PhilWakely on December 14, 2023, 23:30:46 You missed Okehampton I think. Comes under Dartmoor Railway in the tables. Hear are a load of the missing ones that GWR serve: 277934 GIL Gillingham (Dorset) 170474 YVJ Yeovil Junction 157562 CKN Crewkerne 151630 TIS Tisbury 68276 TMC Templecombe Since when has GWR served the above stations ? I'd even debate stations between Pinhoe and Axminster, given the one train a weekday is cancelled more often than not. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 15, 2023, 07:01:26 Quote Quote Quote Hear are a load of the missing ones that GWR serve: 11693876 WIM Wimbledon I've never seen a GWR train at Wimbledon. Surely you mean SWR? ;D Looking at the 2021 GWR network map, some other places are not served - Chandler's Ford, Templecombe, Honiton, Whitchurch ... I can see why some those might be on a diversionary route, but Wimbledon is a bit of a stretch for that. And as for Putney ?? Very quick and dirty manual operation. I may have a look back when I get a chance or invite others to fill in gaps to Hereford and Pembroke Dock, and check intermediate stations between Paddington and Reading. And did I miss Botley? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: lympstone_commuter on December 15, 2023, 11:10:56 I've updated my clickable map to include the 2023 figures: https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm (https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm) (Follow the link to the map and then click on a station to see the time-series) I've now added a second map which shows the year of peak usage (within the window 1998 - 2023). Some interesting patterns (with my speculations in brackets): Stations with peak usage in 2023 (black in Map 2): Lots in Devon and Cornwall (traffic not commuter heavy?) Elizabeth Line Stations (no surprise) Cambridge - Ipswich (new trains?) Norwich - Sheringham (new trains?) Oban line (think I read about new school travel?) Stations with peak usage immediately prior to the pandemic (purple in Map 2) Most of the country (general pattern of growth halted by COVID?) Birmingham and Manchester commuter belts Stations with peak usage a couple of years prior to the pandemic (blue in Map 2) London commuter belt (shift to home working predated pandemic?) Stations with peak usage over 20 years ago (red in Map 2) A few stations where one really has to worry! Does anyone else have thoughts about the usage patterns? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Mark A on December 15, 2023, 12:13:59 Those are a delight to use and very informative, thanks for putting them together.
Mark Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Red Squirrel on December 15, 2023, 12:16:24 Here in Bristol, a quick scan shows an interesting shift:
MTP has 169,000 pax, RDA 76,000 and SRD at 212,000. These are the highest ever recorded figures; MTP for example is 30% higher than its previous peak in 2014/5. There may be a clue in the fact that CFN, at 608,000, is 25% down on its peak (764,000 in 2016/7). I always suspected that the way fares were collected skewed things towards CFN; on trains heading towards BRI, guards almost always sold tickets 'from CFN' for all stations between CFN and BRI. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Trowres on December 15, 2023, 15:27:43 Does anyone else have thoughts about the usage patterns? Thanks for providing a very useful resource :-) It does appear that patronage held up for longer around the major regional cities than it did in London or in smaller towns more isolated from the big hubs. Looking in more detail at the graphs, there seem to be many in a form /--- , where rapid growth in the first decade of the century plateaued in the second. Where the growth slowed or ended seems to vary; in Wiltshire it's 2015-2017 while in Cornwall it tends to be somewhat earlier. A similar demand curve is seen on the Welsh Marches Line and in many other places. Some places like Gt Yarmouth have a radically different trendline - were there service reductions or problems over several years? For the mainstream, there could be a number of reasons why growth slowed. In no particular order, I'd suggest:
Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: PhilWakely on December 15, 2023, 18:00:24 I've updated my clickable map to include the 2023 figures: https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm (https://empslocal.ex.ac.uk/people/staff/tej202/stations.htm) (Follow the link to the map and then click on a station to see the time-series) The time-series show that the post-COVID bounceback is pretty much complete in Devon and Cornwall. Also (as noted elsewhere) the Elizabeth Line effect is very clear at Paddington and Liverpool Street! This is excellent, thank you. Purely as a matter of interest, are you able to rank stations by their year-on-year growth? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: Hafren on December 15, 2023, 18:52:42 Stations with peak usage over 20 years ago (red in Map 2) A few stations where one really has to worry! Does anyone else have thoughts about the usage patterns? A few patterns that might be relevant: • A number of rural stations or obvious tourist destinations. Perhaps this is related to changing tourism travel patterns (e.g. declining holiday park traffic at Penychain). • Stations that have very limited service - e.g. east of Ellesmere Port - not sure when it was reduced from a 'proper' service but perhaps there's a link. • Closely-spaced stations e.g. a lot of smaller stations on the Valley Lines network. Something to do with the ways tickets are issued perhaps - are the peak dates related to booking office closures? In some areas, zonal ticketing being introduced? Similar to the zonal point, but where not officially zonal ticketing, tickets being sold on-train being issued from first station in same fare band to avoid changing origin station with each transaction? Local buses improving providing better 'metro' links than the trains? Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: ellendune on December 15, 2023, 19:38:36 Does anyone else have thoughts about the usage patterns? Although the growth from 1998 is important, the return or not) to immediate prepandemic levels is also of interest for those campaigning for return of lost services. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: lympstone_commuter on December 15, 2023, 20:01:11 Purely as a matter of interest, are you able to rank stations by their year-on-year growth? Good idea - I'll have a think! Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: johnneyw on December 15, 2023, 23:15:59 I suspected that the Severn Beach Line had bounced back from the pandemic fairly well. It would be interesting to know but difficult I would imagine to find out, what changes, if any, there are in the types of journeys being made.
I hope that recent reliability issues that I've encountered or been aware of don't do anything to scupper the recovery. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: stuving on December 16, 2023, 00:41:05 Stations with peak usage a couple of years prior to the pandemic (blue in Map 2) London commuter belt (shift to home working predated pandemic?) Do you remember that just before Covid, and the swapping of franchise agreements for EMAs, SWR (then under Mark Hopwood) were threatening DfT they'd walk away from their contract, taking a loss, unless they got a management contract to replace it? They had been complaining about how the profit share was evolving since the end of 2018 - less than two years into the term. Their problem (also affecting GA) was the Central London Employment measure used to set the base level for passenger numbers. That had been going up, but passenger numbers going down. So SWR were having to pay more to DfT out of a smaller farebox. Various commentators suggested the deterioration of the service was putting people off commuting, but you could also call it remote working. This move away from going to work to work had been predicted for several years, but not turned up in the passenger figures before 2018. Some evidence suggested employees were not keen on it even where it was offered. So maybe SWR's poor service was the push they needed - followed by a much bigger shove from Covid. Looking at SWR-land, most of the commuter towns outside London saw a small drop from 2018, and the levels have not returned anywhere near those for 2019. Title: Re: Estimates of station usage: April 2022 to March 2023 Post by: grahame on December 16, 2023, 05:37:05 Stations with peak usage in 2023 (black in Map 2): Lots in Devon and Cornwall (traffic not commuter heavy?) Elizabeth Line Stations (no surprise) Cambridge - Ipswich (new trains?) Norwich - Sheringham (new trains?) Oban line (think I read about new school travel?) the 16:11 Oban to Dalmally is a relatively recent train getting school children home - at a guess this unlikely looking service might be getting significant traffic. I suspect the young ones arrive in Oban at 08:35 on the stupid O'Clock from Glasgow. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |