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Title: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on September 29, 2023, 22:11:17 From The Evening Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/aviemore-paramedics-inverness-emergency-services-police-scotland-b1110455.html)
Quote Two people have been taken to hospital after a collision between two trains in northern Scotland. The crash happened at Aviemore Railway Station, in the Cairngorms, at 7.10pm. Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) sent eight appliances to the scene. Paramedics took two casualties to hospital by ambulance and three other people were treated at the scene. A spokesman for SFRS said: “We were alerted at 7.10pm on Friday to reports of a collision involving two trains at Aviemore Railway Station. Picture - stock from Aviemore. Haven't a clue whether to post "wider picture" or heritage. Suspect "wider picture" as the old stuff will have been put to bed hours ago! Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on September 29, 2023, 22:16:26 Yahoo! News (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/multiple-injuries-two-trains-collide-195951678.html) adds
Quote MULTIPLE casualties have been reported after two trains collided at a Highlands railway station. A train crashed into a stationary carriage at Aviemore Railway Station at around 7pm on Friday. It is understood that one of the trains involved in the crash is the iconic Flying Scotsman. and then Quote A spokesman for Network Rail said: “It’s on a heritage railway line, it’s not our infrastructure. “The main line is shut while emergency services respond. “We are saying to passengers to check before travelling.” Oops - topic move coming up! Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on September 29, 2023, 22:37:39 The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/flying-scotsman-two-people-in-hospital-after-flying-scotsman-involved-in-crash-at-aviemore-station-4354643)
Quote The incident occurred when the Flying Scotsman locomotive was being shunted into place to be coupled with the Royal Scotsman train carriages, which were stationary. A spokesman for Royal Scotsman train owner Belmond described the collision as “minor” and said there had been no major injuries. "We are grateful for the prompt attendance by paramedics who were on site to assist the few passengers and team members who sustained minor injuries,” the spokesman said. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on September 30, 2023, 15:55:51 Update
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66970791?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA Quote Safety checks are to be carried out on the Flying Scotsman locomotive after it was involved in a crash at a railway station in the Highlands. Two people were treated in hospital following the low-speed collision with the Royal Scotsman train at Aviemore on Friday. The world-famous locomotive had been scheduled to be running passenger trips over the weekend. But it was withdrawn ahead of a full safety inspection on Monday. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Rob on the hill on October 01, 2023, 13:17:47 Video of the collision:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KNRGZdNNLY Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on October 01, 2023, 13:47:49 Video of the collision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KNRGZdNNLY Interesting to see the video, and clearly something didn't go as it should - people should NOT end up being taken to hospital. That said, sad that some people have followed up suggesting what went wrong, who was to blame for it going wrong, and what their sentence should be for that. Kangaroo court! I am reminded of at least one collision in recent memory where initial looks were at the driver who passed a signal at danger, but later analysis found that the train had failed to respond to a brake application of the sort that's made thousands of times every day. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: eightonedee on October 01, 2023, 22:27:07 Having seen the video - should perhaps the title of this thread be changed to something like "Flying Scotsman in shunting accident at Aviemore"?
Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: broadgage on October 01, 2023, 22:57:44 The speed certainly looks excessive to an informed amateur and what about the requirement to stop short of the train before moving forward ?
Misjudgement by driver ? or brakes ineffective ? Whatever the cause, I agree that "shunting accident" is a more accurate description than that used. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: GBM on October 02, 2023, 06:15:13 Prefer 'shunting incident' rather than accident.
Far less dramatic, but the press do like drama. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Electric train on October 02, 2023, 07:16:40 It's a collision during a shunting move
My observations / opinions - There seemed to be quite a number of people in the cab Lack of a "Shunter" on the ground to hand signal the movement especially with a tender leading Loco should have stopped short a chain or so short and then moved at less than walking pace I wonder if the RIAB and ORR report may recommend passengers should be de trained during such moves and certainly no one should be on an coach observation platform Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Red Squirrel on October 02, 2023, 09:23:08 I've found a better video of Flying the Scotsman's incident here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1708445350942400697
Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: eXPassenger on October 02, 2023, 10:35:53 I've found a better video of Flying the Scotsman's incident here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1708445350942400697 LOL Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: RichardB on October 02, 2023, 10:39:19 I was amazed to see people on the observation balcony at the back of the train as the loco shunted back on to the stock. Sad to hear of the injuries and good that no-one was badly injured.
Thankfully the Coronation Beavertail Observation Car wasn't at that end of the train. That doesn't bear thinking about. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Oxonhutch on October 02, 2023, 10:55:47 I am a qualified shunter on my heritage railway and I think, looking at the speed he was travelling, that he never saw the train that he hit. Maybe he was looking for the shunter (who wasn't there) to stop him short, and bring him on. Another possibility is that he was actually running around his train and got routed back on to it by mistake.
Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Red Squirrel on October 02, 2023, 20:36:16 Another video, this time with the real Flying the Scotsman: https://twitter.com/i/status/1708921216923205639
Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Mark A on October 03, 2023, 12:40:33 Salutory that the camera person calmly stood and filmed that without so much as a flinch until they were knocked off their feet. Sort of passivated by watching it on screen as they filmed perhaps.
Mark Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: grahame on September 05, 2024, 19:04:23 Accident report published. BBC Reports (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v84kjw4zzo)
Quote Accident investigators have criticised a railway company over a collision in the Highlands involving the Flying Scotsman steam locomotive. Two passengers were hurt when the locomotive reversed into its coaches at low speed, on the private Strathspey railway in Aviemore in September last year The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) said the driver was not aware of how close the coaches were to Flying Scotsman and did not control its speed accordingly. The RAIB said Strathspey Railway Company’s "ineffective management" of the locomotive's visit to the line was an underlying factor. The firm said it accepted the findings. Title: Re: Collision, Aviemore Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 05, 2024, 19:44:30 The full report from the Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) is available on their website, at https://www.gov.uk/government/news/report-092024-collision-at-aviemore-station-on-the-strathspey-railway .
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