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Title: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: grahame on May 10, 2023, 11:15:04 Confirmaions please
Not valid on ... Quote London Underground on any shipping service So: it IS valid on Overground, Elizabeth Line, Thameslink it IS NOT Valid from Portsmouth to Ryde Quote The All Line Rail Rover is NOT valid for boarding or alighting train services operated by Avanti West Coast, CrossCountry, East Midlands Railway, or LNER before 10:00 Mondays to Fridays at the following stations: Birmingham New Street Bedford London Euston London Kings Cross London St Pancras International Luton Luton Airport Parkway Milton Keynes Central Stevenage Watford Junction So it IS Valid at any time out of King's Cross on Hull Trains and Grand Central, and change at Peterborough or further north to LNER. It IS valid through Birmingham New Street on Cross Country, and on and off TfW, LNWR, etc, there at any time And Also ... Merseyside YES, Tyneside NO? Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: ChrisB on May 10, 2023, 15:39:24 Tyneside rail yes, but do you mean Thneside Metro? I think thst’s a no as its effectively a tram
Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: Ralph Ayres on May 10, 2023, 17:43:37 ...and in the absence of any specific statement to the contrary, best to take the exclusion of London Underground at face value and assume that it's not even valid on the bits that other NR-only tickets are accepted on for specific journeys (Baker St-Amersham, Tower Hill-Upminster etc). Chances are any revenue or station staff you encounter won't be sure either (though some may claim to know and refuse to budge!), but it's really not worth opening that can of worms.
A fun thing to use and the flexibility apart from a few time restrictions is handy, but I'd say you really do need to enjoy rail travel and make at least one long journey each day for it to pay for itself. If this leads anywhere we'll be following the week with interest! Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: JayMac on May 10, 2023, 19:12:37 Yes to validity on Overground, Thameslink, Elizabeth Line. No to Underground and DLR.
The 1000 restriction is as written. So yes, only the operators listed for boarding and alighting at the stations listed are barred from pre-1000 use. It's fine to take another operator from those stations before 1000 then change onto Avanti, LNER, CrossCountry, East Midlands Railway at a station not listed further up/down the line.Also fine to pass through (where possible) the stations listed before 1000. For example, CrossCountry from Cheltenham to Stafford early morning. Yes to validity on Merseyrail. On Tyne & Wear Metro the ALR should be valid between Newcastle and Sunderland, although there is some evidence of problems encountered when using Rover/Rangers on Metro journeys where there is interoperability with Northern. No to trams in Croydon, Birmingham, Nottingham, Sheffield, Manchester, Blackpool, Edinburgh. Seperate ticket required for any ferry journey. Also valid on Sleeper services on payment of a berth supplement. Also vaild in 3rd Class on the Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways. Advance booking recommended. Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: grahame on May 10, 2023, 19:29:38 If this leads anywhere we'll be following the week with interest! Decisions to be made for the year - Interail, Rover, neither, both ... probably dun croosin for 2023 Yes to validity on Overground, Thameslink, Elizabeth Line. No to Underground and DLR. ... [snip] Separate ticket required for any ferry journey. OK - that has changed in the last 30 years. The 10 a.m is understood, if slightly irritating. Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: TaplowGreen on May 10, 2023, 20:12:08 Yes to validity on Overground, Thameslink, Elizabeth Line. No to Underground and DLR. Isn't the Elizabeth Line part of the Underground? It's on the Tube map and run by TfL? Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: ChrisB on May 10, 2023, 21:06:40 As is the Overground….
Title: Re: All line rover - checking on restrictions Post by: JayMac on May 10, 2023, 21:17:39 Yes to validity on Overground, Thameslink, Elizabeth Line. No to Underground and DLR. Isn't the Elizabeth Line part of the Underground? It's on the Tube map and run by TfL?From the National Rail (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rail) entry on Wikipedia: Quote London Overground and the Elizabeth line (formerly TfL Rail) are hybrids: Their services are operated via a concession awarded by Transport for London (TfL). They are part of National Rail as train operating companies, where tickets can be used in the same way as other operators, and shown in the National Rail timetable. However, under Transport for London, they are considered as separate networks. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |