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Title: Severn Beach station - facilities, events and incidents - merged posts
Post by: infoman on June 01, 2022, 07:24:13
I don't know how to upload the flyer so can someone go to this page https://www.facebook.com/PilningSevernParishCouncil

and up load the poster about all the events in Severn beach.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: johnneyw on June 01, 2022, 23:21:17
Myself and a friend of mine will hopefully be having a visit in June.  I never visited Severn Beach when it was a resort but she did as a child....the new maps that are available of where everything was should provide for an interesting afternoon.


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: JayMac on June 01, 2022, 23:34:47
Rather than upload the poster from Facebook (image quality isn't great), heres a link to details of the centenary celebration events from the Pilning & Severn Beach Parish Council website.

https://www.psbpc.co.uk/svb100


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: Western Pathfinder on June 02, 2022, 06:44:32
Shirley's cafe is highly recommended especially the cake..


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: JayMac on June 03, 2022, 19:21:17
Shirley's cafe is highly recommended especially the cake..

Had my share of great late breakfasts there.


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2022, 10:09:26
Made the BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61660838) website

Quote
Severn Beach: celebrations mark seaside resort's centenary

Residents are celebrating the centenary of when their village became a popular seaside holiday resort.

A passenger station opened in Severn Beach, South Gloucestershire, 100 years ago which "changed everything" for the village and the people living there.

An outdoor pool, shops, funfair rides, attractions and a hotel were built, as the area previously used as farmland was transformed for holidaymakers.

Events are being held throughout the month to mark the milestone.

Great Western Railway opened the passenger station at Severn Beach, where previously there had only been a freight line, on 5 June 1922 linking the village with Bristol and London.

Resident Sue Binns said the success from there was largely down to the "vision" of builder and entrepreneur Robert Strider, who saw the increased footfall as a business opportunity.

Ms Binns said Mr Strider started out by building some shops and he expanded that to accommodation, rides and a swimming pool.

The pool became known as the Blue Lagoon and was "really the cause of why Severn beach developed", said Ms Binns.

Cafes and stalls were opened by residents seeking to benefit from the newfound notoriety and one of them, Shirley's Cafe, is still open and run by the same family today.

Jan Ann Thorn remembers playing at the fair and on the dodgems.

"I joined the Red Cross at aged 13 and we attended the fair ground to do first aid duties. I had a lovely time," she said.

Although there had been many changes in the area since its heyday as a holiday resort, the community-spirit remained and people always helped each other out, she said.

"Where else would you find that sort of help other than Severn Beach," she added.

Val George is selling centenary tea towels, made locally, and sticks of rock which she has bought for her grandchildren but "only tasted a tiny bit" herself.

The celebrations will include local bands playing on the sea wall, picnics, a display of classic cars and a performance by the village drama group.

Ms George said they had included "something for everybody".

Illustrated with plenty of historic photos too


Title: severn beach train station on ITV West local news
Post by: infoman on June 09, 2022, 18:22:47
at 18:20pm on Thursday 9th june

available on ITV1 plus at 19:20pm again


Title: Re: severn beach train station on ITV West local news
Post by: johnneyw on June 09, 2022, 19:07:19
I'm guessing it's about the centenary of Severn Beach as a holiday and leisure resort (which might seem somewhat incredible if first seen today) but I'll have a look at the ITV+1 in a few minutes to see.


Edit to add: 
Disappointingly, it seems not to have been included on the South Devon edition of the ITV regional news where I am currently located.


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: johnneyw on June 10, 2022, 14:44:16
Made the BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61660838) website

Quote
Severn Beach: celebrations mark seaside resort's centenary

Residents are celebrating the centenary of when their village became a popular seaside holiday resort.

A passenger station opened in Severn Beach, South Gloucestershire, 100 years ago which "changed everything" for the village and the people living there.

An outdoor pool, shops, funfair rides, attractions and a hotel were built, as the area previously used as farmland was transformed for holidaymakers.

Events are being held throughout the month to mark the milestone.

Great Western Railway opened the passenger station at Severn Beach, where previously there had only been a freight line, on 5 June 1922 linking the village with Bristol and London.

Resident Sue Binns said the success from there was largely down to the "vision" of builder and entrepreneur Robert Strider, who saw the increased footfall as a business opportunity.

Ms Binns said Mr Strider started out by building some shops and he expanded that to accommodation, rides and a swimming pool.

The pool became known as the Blue Lagoon and was "really the cause of why Severn beach developed", said Ms Binns.

Cafes and stalls were opened by residents seeking to benefit from the newfound notoriety and one of them, Shirley's Cafe, is still open and run by the same family today.

Jan Ann Thorn remembers playing at the fair and on the dodgems.

"I joined the Red Cross at aged 13 and we attended the fair ground to do first aid duties. I had a lovely time," she said.

Although there had been many changes in the area since its heyday as a holiday resort, the community-spirit remained and people always helped each other out, she said.

"Where else would you find that sort of help other than Severn Beach," she added.

Val George is selling centenary tea towels, made locally, and sticks of rock which she has bought for her grandchildren but "only tasted a tiny bit" herself.

The celebrations will include local bands playing on the sea wall, picnics, a display of classic cars and a performance by the village drama group.

Ms George said they had included "something for everybody".

Illustrated with plenty of historic photos too

I hope that I'm not being too pedantic by pointing out the the Robert Strider credited in the article with creating the resort was in fact named Robert Stride (no "r" on the end).  An old schoolfriend of mine is from that Stride family.


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: froome on June 11, 2022, 17:15:04
Made the BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61660838) website

Quote
Severn Beach: celebrations mark seaside resort's centenary

Residents are celebrating the centenary of when their village became a popular seaside holiday resort.

A passenger station opened in Severn Beach, South Gloucestershire, 100 years ago which "changed everything" for the village and the people living there.

An outdoor pool, shops, funfair rides, attractions and a hotel were built, as the area previously used as farmland was transformed for holidaymakers.

Events are being held throughout the month to mark the milestone.

Great Western Railway opened the passenger station at Severn Beach, where previously there had only been a freight line, on 5 June 1922 linking the village with Bristol and London.

Resident Sue Binns said the success from there was largely down to the "vision" of builder and entrepreneur Robert Strider, who saw the increased footfall as a business opportunity.

Ms Binns said Mr Strider started out by building some shops and he expanded that to accommodation, rides and a swimming pool.

The pool became known as the Blue Lagoon and was "really the cause of why Severn beach developed", said Ms Binns.

Cafes and stalls were opened by residents seeking to benefit from the newfound notoriety and one of them, Shirley's Cafe, is still open and run by the same family today.

Jan Ann Thorn remembers playing at the fair and on the dodgems.

"I joined the Red Cross at aged 13 and we attended the fair ground to do first aid duties. I had a lovely time," she said.

Although there had been many changes in the area since its heyday as a holiday resort, the community-spirit remained and people always helped each other out, she said.

"Where else would you find that sort of help other than Severn Beach," she added.

Val George is selling centenary tea towels, made locally, and sticks of rock which she has bought for her grandchildren but "only tasted a tiny bit" herself.

The celebrations will include local bands playing on the sea wall, picnics, a display of classic cars and a performance by the village drama group.

Ms George said they had included "something for everybody".

Illustrated with plenty of historic photos too

I hope that I'm not being too pedantic by pointing out the the Robert Strider credited in the article with creating the resort was in fact named Robert Stride (no "r" on the end).  An old schoolfriend of mine is from that Stride family.

And surely he would have been called Stridel.  :D


Title: Re: Severn Beach is 100 years old,please visit
Post by: ellendune on June 11, 2022, 21:39:40
I hope that I'm not being too pedantic by pointing out the the Robert Strider credited in the article with creating the resort was in fact named Robert Stride (no "r" on the end).  An old schoolfriend of mine is from that Stride family.

And surely he would have been called Stridel.  :D

Or should it be Aragorn the son of Arathorn the heir of Elendil also known Elessar and Strider.  :D


Title: Severn Beach station - facilities, events and incidents - merged posts
Post by: infoman on September 12, 2023, 07:13:05
from a listener on Radio Bristol on tuesday 12 september 2023,
about the noise and pollution while they are stopped at the station.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: johnneyw on September 12, 2023, 11:23:31
But why is this person complaining now?  The station and the trains it serves have been there for longer than any living Severn Beach resident (unless there's a remarkable fact that has escaped the record books) and were far dirtier in the age of steam, probably noisier too.
From memory, a good many of the services there only dwell a few minutes before turning back but perhaps the person who made the complaint is talking about any services that have a longer dwell time but don't turn of the motor....in which case maybe there is something that could be improved upon.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 12, 2023, 11:28:42
There’s been a more frequent service of late hasn’t there?


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: grahame on September 12, 2023, 11:44:55
There’s been a more frequent service of late hasn’t there?

There has and
a) It's now Turbos which may be noisier than 150s
b) Instead of being there for a few minutes, each train lays over for half an hour


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: Witham Bobby on September 12, 2023, 12:35:44
I *know* the instructions are to shut-down engines during layovers.  But, is drivers' practice to leave them running to avoid the risk of not re-starting at a remote location?  This was very often the case in my railway working days, and I'm wondering if much has changed?


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 12, 2023, 13:42:01
Don’t think that’s much of an issue these days.  The crew will stay with the train, so in very cold or very warm conditions it’s acceptable IMHO to keep one engine running for climate control reasons.  Otherwise they should be shut down and restarted 5-10 minutes before departure.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 12, 2023, 21:03:13
But why is this person complaining now?  The station and the trains it serves have been there for longer than any living Severn Beach resident (unless there's a remarkable fact that has escaped the record books) and were far dirtier in the age of steam, probably noisier too.
From memory, a good many of the services there only dwell a few minutes before turning back but perhaps the person who made the complaint is talking about any services that have a longer dwell time but don't turn of the motor....in which case maybe there is something that could be improved upon.

We ran an article on this a year ago: https://bristolrailcampaign.org.uk/air-and-noise-pollution-at-severn-beach/

Mike Calvert has been asking for this to be sorted for a while now. He has a point; these ancient Turbos can be pretty stinky, as anyone whose hung around at Clifton Down when two of them pass there will know. Since the half-hourly service started in 2021 more trains lay over longer at Severn Beach.

You can hear the Radio Bristol article here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g8vsph 2hrs 13 in at 08:13. Seems like a very reasonable chap.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: Mark A on September 12, 2023, 22:01:38
Yes, they're really primitively noisy - at Paddington they were a constant unwelcome presence next to the Hammersmith and City line platforms before they were moved to pastures new.

Not that new kit necessarily solves this - Scarborough residents asked that the newish and very noisy class 68s which were newly being  maintained there have the maintenance that involved running them in the small hours to test things done elsewhere. Transpennine Express agreed and reallocated the task to Longsight, Manchester, which is further from housing. At least I hope it is. Though now I think the DfT aka TPE will cease using them completely.

Mark


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: infoman on September 13, 2023, 04:14:59
My concern(as a solution)  is GWR will say "stuff it" will we replace more trains with a bus/s which would have to leave earlier between SB and Avonmouth.

If more trains end up terminating at Avonmouth are there serial complainers/anti-rail moaners at Avonmouth

One person complains and loads of other residents of SB suffer.

Be careful what you moan about,sorry that shouid read,be careful what you compain about.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: grahame on September 13, 2023, 06:16:04
My concern(as a solution)  is GWR will say "stuff it" will we replace more trains with a bus/s which would have to leave earlier between SB and Avonmouth.

If more trains end up terminating at Avonmouth are there serial complainers/anti-rail moaners at Avonmouth

One person complains and loads of other residents of SB suffer.

Be careful what you moan about,sorry that shouid read,be careful what you compain about.

Yes - I would agree on "consider consequences".   I do not anticipate it as the outcome, but if a daytime unit on its way out to Severn Beach passing an incoming unit at Avonmouth, a unit could be saved by terminating at Avonmouth.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: infoman on September 13, 2023, 11:00:20
As last month(august) was school holiday month,

maybe the complainer was at home more than they normally would be,

or maybe they did not go on holiday.

I think some of the noise problem COULD be solved by building up a grass embankment like the did in the early operations of Heathrow express.

Fumes and smoke,now that would be a big problem to solve.

 


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: johnneyw on September 13, 2023, 12:03:27
This may sound daft but what is stopping the Turbos engines being switched off during longer waits at SB?  I've certainly boarded services at platform one in Temple Meads which were not due to leave for some while with the engines not running.


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: eightonedee on September 13, 2023, 14:46:45
From a passenger's point of view, diesel trains laying over with engines running can be an unpleasant experience from both a noise and fume point of view, and it must be worse for those living nearby.

However, it must surely be good practice to minimise periods of engines running while laying over. In the days before the remodelling of Reading Station, in the evenings Turbos that had finished their duties for the day would often be joined together on Platform 9, all with their engines running creating an unpleasant and polluting situation. One of the blessings of electrification was the marked reduction in this nuisance. Probably the worse culprits after this were the Windhof rail-head cleaning trains running the Waterloo and North Downs lines that would sit for prolonged periods in platform 4 or 5 with engines running - presumably they'll be back this autumn.

I appreciate the crew welfare point that Industry Insider is making. Severn Beach seems to be a station entirely devoid of facilities (not even a ticket office to turn into a welfare building in due course!). However I see from the timetable that for most of the day the hourly service departs Temple Meads three minutes after arrival from Severn beach, but then lays over at Severn Beach for 38 minutes before returning. Presumably this is because platform space is at a premium at Temple Meads, whereas there's nothing else to use Severn Beach, but surely the service should be balanced better, or some way found to accommodate units at Temple Meads to avoid this nuisance and pollution?


Title: Re: Severn Beach station complaints
Post by: grahame on September 13, 2023, 17:58:09
I see from the timetable that for most of the day the hourly service departs Temple Meads three minutes after arrival from Severn beach, but then lays over at Severn Beach for 38 minutes before returning. Presumably this is because platform space is at a premium at Temple Meads, whereas there's nothing else to use Severn Beach, but surely the service should be balanced better, or some way found to accommodate units at Temple Meads to avoid this nuisance and pollution?

The layover is to allow the outbound and inbound SVB services to pass at Avonmouth.  In between, the "short" working arrive at Avonmouth from Bristol an returns.   With a quick return from the Beach you would have trains out of place at Avonmouth - none there, or two there when one wanted.


Title: Severn Beach station - facilities, events and incidents - merged posts
Post by: johnneyw on May 31, 2024, 19:43:11
Just as Castle Cary Station has a few days each year of hectic activity for Glastonbury, Severn Beach Station might be seeing a somewhat smaller scale occasional flurry of passengers if the plans for a Severn Beach Festival are approved and is a success.  More details in the link below.


https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/series-summer-events-like-concerts-9316093?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Interestingly enough, one of the cited hurdles is a stated lack of parking so MetroWest might just have found itself an additional use.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: TonyK on May 31, 2024, 20:47:53
Local opinion appears to be evenly split (one for, one against).

It was car parking that did for the original Bristol Arenal, and it will probably be what stops any "big" event in Severn Beach.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: johnneyw on May 31, 2024, 20:51:38
Local opinion appears to be evenly split (one for, one against).

It was car parking that did for the original Bristol Arenal, and it will probably be what stops any "big" event in Severn Beach.

It does seem though that the Severnside Festival moving this year to SB is already a done deal.
https://www.severnfest.com/2024/03/23/information/

Don't know where it was held before....I hadn't actually heard about it until today.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: JayMac on May 31, 2024, 21:44:34
Last year it was held on Severn Beach Park, Ableton Lane.

This year on the prom.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: johnneyw on May 31, 2024, 22:11:58
Last year it was held on Severn Beach Park, Ableton Lane.

This year on the prom.

Thanks for that JayMac.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: johnneyw on May 31, 2024, 22:24:31
Having noted that The Wurzels are on the bill, a friend of mine has already suggested that we both go there and back by train.... hopefully the final service of the day at 22.57 will mean that we won't have to leave before the event winds up.
I also noticed that the event website encourages use of the train to get there but warns anyone wishing to use the Portway Park and Ride that it closes at 21.30.  That would possibly mean having to leave earlier than preferred.  Now it may not be Glasto but surely a proper way to promote MetroWest and it's benefits would be to have the P&R open a bit longer, even if just for good publicity.


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: Mark A on June 01, 2024, 07:59:06
If the event pushes the end of service on the Severn Beach line there are benefits in the event organisers and GWR collaborating - the likes of Scotrail would be looking to enhance/extend the service to meet the travel needs of people attending.

(The other side of that coin is that GWR has a rolling stock famine...)

Mark


Title: Re: Severn Beach Station may be doing a mini Castle Cary in the future.
Post by: Western Pathfinder on June 01, 2024, 12:52:43
Now of course if Pilning had some lights on its one remaining platform you could run a shuttle bus from the event that is providing that you can find a key to the gates !!!....


Title: Severn Beach music festival
Post by: infoman on July 12, 2024, 07:36:39
takes place on Saturday 13 July starting at 3pm.

The event organiser has requested that attendees come by train, just hoping the returning trains can cope with the extra passengers.

https://www.severnfest.com/



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