Title: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on July 08, 2021, 19:33:57 While the COP26 climate conference* later this year has been mentioned in dispatches before, we could do with a thread on the conference itself, its content and how that affects transport, and the event itself and its impacts on transport. To kick that off, here's an item about getting there. From E&T (https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2021/07/climate-train-offers-green-travel-for-cop26-delegates/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_campaign=New%20EandT%20News%20-%20Automation%20FINAL%20-%20MEMBER&utm_medium=Newsletters%20-%20E%26T%20News&utm_content=E%26T%20News%20-%20Members&utm_term=842960):
Quote ‘Climate Train’ to offer green travel option for COP26 delegates By Lorna Sharpe Published Wednesday, July 7, 2021 Rail and sustainability groups are joining forces to run a special ‘Climate Train’ for European delegates to the COP26 Climate Summit in Glasgow, which begins on November 1 this year. During their journey, the passengers will be invited to take part in a series of debates and seminars to draw attention to the important role that rail and sustainable travel can play in achieving the global ‘Climate Change Goals’. While in Glasgow, they will also be able to see examples of the rail industry’s efforts to build even greener trains, including two running on hydrogen. The Climate Train initiative is a partnership between ProRail; Eurostar; NS; Avanti West Coast, and Youth for Sustainable Travel. Its aim is to bring together a diverse group from all over Europe, including young people; official delegations; mobility experts; NGOs, and representatives of the railway sector. A Eurostar service will start from Amsterdam Central on October 30 travelling via Rotterdam and Brussels to London St. Pancras International. From there, passengers will transfer the short distance to London Euston to continue their journey on an Avanti West Coast service to Glasgow Central. Frans Timmermans, vice-president of the European Commission, intends to be on board and says the train sets a good example of sustainable transport... Most of the organisations involved in running the train have news items on it too. * Officially it's the 26th UN Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26), in Glasgow on 31 October – 12 November 2021. Unless... Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: CyclingSid on July 09, 2021, 06:54:37 I wonder how many British ministers will be on board, or will that be none because somebody from the European Commission is on board.
Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: Trowres on July 09, 2021, 23:45:09 Don't worry, CyclingSid, they have a solution... British ministers will be in First Class; the Europeans in Standard. ::)
Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: broadgage on July 10, 2021, 12:58:44 Hopefully most will use the train rather than flying.
The short transfer from St Pancras to Euston will presumably be by road. This would be a good opportunity to promote electric cycles for the fitter attendees, and electric taxis for the less fit or those with a lot of luggage. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on October 28, 2021, 16:32:05 This is allegedly about COP26 - or is it local news, worth a subject title about big toys for your Bath? From Stride Treglown (https://stridetreglown.com/initiatives/sinking-house/):
Quote Sinking House is a message of warning, and hope, to communities across the world – including leaders gathering at the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP26) – to address the issues, reach for lifelines and act now against the intensifying threat of climate change. (https://media.stridetreglown.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/25152326/Sinking-House_LowRES_6.jpg) Sinking House is led by Stride Treglown and Format Engineers, with artist Anna Gillespie and Fifield Moss Carpentry. We have worked with local tradespeople to help build the sculpture to minimise transport emissions and keep the installation as sustainable as possible. It has taken an entire community of local people and organisations to make happen. Special thanks goes to Bath and North East Somerset Council, The Environment Agency, City of Bath Sea Cadets, Greenman Environmental Management, Bridge Coffee Shop, Sydenhams, Kellaway Building Supplies, Minuteman Press, RIBA, Wessex Water, Architecture Is. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: Lee on October 28, 2021, 17:13:40 This is allegedly about COP26 - or is it local news, worth a subject title about big toys for your Bath? From Stride Teglown (https://stridetreglown.com/initiatives/sinking-house/): Quote Sinking House is a message of warning, and hope, to communities across the world – including leaders gathering at the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP26) – to address the issues, reach for lifelines and act now against the intensifying threat of climate change. (https://media.stridetreglown.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/25152326/Sinking-House_LowRES_6.jpg) Sinking House is led by Stride Treglown and Format Engineers, with artist Anna Gillespie and Fifield Moss Carpentry. We have worked with local tradespeople to help build the sculpture to minimise transport emissions and keep the installation as sustainable as possible. It has taken an entire community of local people and organisations to make happen. Special thanks goes to Bath and North East Somerset Council, The Environment Agency, City of Bath Sea Cadets, Greenman Environmental Management, Bridge Coffee Shop, Sydenhams, Kellaway Building Supplies, Minuteman Press, RIBA, Wessex Water, Architecture Is. And there was me on the verge of winning my first Monopoly game in ages. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on October 28, 2021, 17:39:02 That house reminds me if this one - much more impressive. Mind you, it actually did sink and had to be rescued and re"float"ed, though since then has survived for more than ten years. (Note that there are three storeys.)
Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: Bob_Blakey on October 29, 2021, 09:28:09 This is allegedly about COP26 - or is it local news, worth a subject title about big toys for your Bath? I would classify this as an extreme form of fly tipping. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: broadgage on October 29, 2021, 15:14:39 This is allegedly about COP26 - or is it local news, worth a subject title about big toys for your Bath? I would classify this as an extreme form of fly tipping. If abandoned, then yes arguably fly tipping. If however they remove the floating house, then it could be argued that it is a boat, or a floating advert. Which could be considered as a legitimate part of a protest. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: ChrisB on October 29, 2021, 18:05:47 To at least bring our subject of transport back on topic....
There are both VivaRail's 230 001 ex-D stock (now fully battery powered with a 10 minute charge to full) and SCt|Rail's hydrogen train at Glasgow Central today being shown off to hacks. The poorly Adrian Shooter has managed to make the trip too. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: broadgage on October 29, 2021, 18:31:53 Are either of the above trains to run and carry passengers ? Or are they just static exhibits.
Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: ChrisB on October 29, 2021, 18:48:56 Running returns to Braehead as I understand
Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on October 29, 2021, 19:39:53 Are either of the above trains to run and carry passengers ? Or are they just static exhibits. 230001 has been running about today. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtiLOQFcfM0) More of a jog really; it's certainly not sprinting as seen there. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on October 29, 2021, 22:17:30 This is allegedly about COP26 - or is it local news, worth a subject title about big toys for your Bath? I would classify this as an extreme form of fly tipping. So presumably getting it out will call for an extreme form of fly fishing. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: TaplowGreen on October 31, 2021, 16:42:03 Rather unfortunate.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/national/19684752.cop26-attendees-stranded-euston-fallen-tree-halts-rail-services/ Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: broadgage on November 01, 2021, 08:19:30 Agree, unfortunate timing. Could be worse though, at least this delay is not directly* the fault of the railway. Multiple fallen trees and other weather related disruption are arguably caused, at least in part, by global warming. An increase in such events may be expected.
Whilst the main purpose of COP 26 is to reduce global warming, I would expect some discussion about mitigating the consequences of global warming, including making transport infrastructure more resistant to increasingly extreme weather. The fatal accident at Stonehaven was weather related, and last nights accident at Salisbury may well be weather related. It would have been much worse had disruption been the fault of the railway, such as broken trains, staff shortage, major signaling failure or other "own goals" *There MIGHT of course be some blame attached to "the railway" For example by failing to promptly remove trees liable to fall, or failure to recover promptly from incidents. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: ellendune on November 01, 2021, 08:49:42 It would have been much worse had disruption been the fault of the railway, such as broken trains, staff shortage, major signaling failure or other "own goals" Once again staff shortages, if they are due to Covid, and any knock on effects on these other things are not railway industry own goals they are the result of government policy on covid. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: PhilWakely on November 01, 2021, 09:01:01 It would have been much worse had disruption been the fault of the railway, such as broken trains, staff shortage, major signaling failure or other "own goals" Once again staff shortages, if they are due to Covid, and any knock on effects on these other things are not railway industry own goals they are the result of government policy on covid. Some of the staff shortages are due to staff taking outstanding leave before the end of year deadline - having had leave refused earlier in the year for a number of reasons. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: stuving on November 01, 2021, 12:27:23 Agree, unfortunate timing. Could be worse though, at least this delay is not directly* the fault of the railway. Multiple fallen trees and other weather related disruption are arguably caused, at least in part, by global warming. An increase in such events may be expected. Whilst the main purpose of COP 26 is to reduce global warming, I would expect some discussion about mitigating the consequences of global warming, including making transport infrastructure more resistant to increasingly extreme weather. The fatal accident at Stonehaven was weather related, and last nights accident at Salisbury may well be weather related. It would have been much worse had disruption been the fault of the railway, such as broken trains, staff shortage, major signaling failure or other "own goals" *There MIGHT of course be some blame attached to "the railway" For example by failing to promptly remove trees liable to fall, or failure to recover promptly from incidents. After the first report of one tree at Long Buckby, I did wonder why trains could not use the parallel route via Weedon. There were a number of shorter possessions in several places, but during the day the route should have been useable if not originally pathed. However, NR never did got it open all day - I suspect the weather may have been involved in that too. And with so many other trees on a nunber of lines, yesterday did go off the end of the "should cope with" scale. Title: Re: COP26 - Glasgow, Novemeber 2021 Post by: grahame on November 04, 2021, 06:49:11 The first emission-free fully-electric train to cross the iconic Forth Bridge as the UN Climate Change Conference takes place in Glasgow.
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