Title: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: grahame on December 30, 2020, 08:56:29 The Fort William to Mallaig line was one of the final lines built at the end of the railway building era and used many techniques / materials such as concrete which were innovative at the time. It runs through spectacular scenery with regular Scotrail trains and also - seasonally - the Hogwarts Express.
From the National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/18975540.bbc-alba-documentary-shines-new-light-west-highland-railway/) Quote MORE than 100 previously unpublished photos taken during the construction of one of the world?s most spectacular railway lines are at the heart of a BBC ALBA documentary that airs tomorrow night. The collection of high-res celluloid nitrate plates, charting the creation of the line between Fort William and Mallaig were unearthed in a sale in Cornwall last year. Ingrid Henderson, a Mallaig-born musician, raised in Fort William and who now lives and works in Glenfinnan, follows the story of the photographs, what they reveal about the people and their lives in Lochaber, and attempts to discover the artist behind the lens. That's 21:00 on 31st December - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000qrjs (http://www.wellho.net/pix/buildmallaig.jpg) Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: rogerw on December 31, 2020, 17:22:30 Members proposing to watch this should bear in mind that Alba is a Scottish Gaelic channel, although the pictures probably speak for themselves
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: grahame on December 31, 2020, 20:43:45 Members proposing to watch this should bear in mind that Alba is a Scottish Gaelic channel, although the pictures probably speak for themselves May be subtitled, bearing in mind the title is - "Ceol na Loidhne/Song of the Track" and so is the previous program. I am spending Hogmany drinking a dark black brew from Ireland, and watching men in plaid skirts playing music through a sheepskin bag somewhere is Scotland. I have just backed up a major website from Wales. I look forward to visiting the places these thing come from in 2021. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: bobm on December 31, 2020, 20:58:46 The preview clips were subtitled.
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: JayMac on December 31, 2020, 21:54:56 and watching men in plaid skirts playing music through a sheepskin bag somewhere is Scotland. Bagpipes. Urgghhh. Can't stand the sound of them. And I'm half Scot. Inherited English hearing obviously! "I understand that the inventor of the bagpipes was inspired when he saw a man carrying an indignant, astatic pig under his arm. Unfortunately, the man-made sound never equaled the purity of sound achieved by the pig." - Alfred Hitchcock Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: PhilWakely on December 31, 2020, 22:07:15 I could happily listen to the harp being played over and over again, but bagpipes, nay!
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: grahame on December 31, 2020, 22:13:22 I could happily listen to the harp being played over and over again, but bagpipes, nay! Then you missed at treat - an hour's mixture of pictures old and new, interviews in English and Gaelic, and the harp being played by the presenter. Not a bagpipe insight. The Gaelic interviews and general commentary were easy enough to follow through subtitles, the English ones far less so because Lisa was watching "The Last Leg" on the main TV and we were both enjoying that too. It's available on replay, and I will be watching again. Partly because it's a good program. And also because of a love I have for places shown, and a fondness for the people I was teaching PHP to just across on the Isle of Skye, who took me to a harp recital raising money for the cat's protection league one lunchtime. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: PhilWakely on December 31, 2020, 22:26:31 I could happily listen to the harp being played over and over again, but bagpipes, nay! Then you missed at treat - an hour's mixture of pictures old and new, interviews in English and Gaelic, and the harp being played by the presenter. Not a bagpipe insight. The Gaelic interviews and general commentary were easy enough to follow through subtitles, the English ones far less so because Lisa was watching "The Last Leg" on the main TV and we were both enjoying that too. It's available on replay, and I will be watching again. Partly because it's a good program. And also because of a love I have for places shown, and a fondness for the people I was teaching PHP to just across on the Isle of Skye, who took me to a harp recital raising money for the cat's protection league one lunchtime. I did actually watch it - and as you say, an absolute treat. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: MVR S&T on December 31, 2020, 22:39:33 I could happily listen to the harp being played over and over again, but bagpipes, nay! Look up the harp twins on You Tube.... Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: bobm on January 01, 2021, 09:31:41 Members proposing to watch this should bear in mind that Alba is a Scottish Gaelic channel, although the pictures probably speak for themselves There are English subtitles if you want them. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: rogerw on January 01, 2021, 10:21:14 Recorded so I will probably watch it today
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: Oxonhutch on January 01, 2021, 10:25:42 What a pleasant way to start my New Year - an hour well spent. Wonderful pictures and music: I enjoyed her interpretation, and the cadence was spot - a couple of short rails and a soupcon of point work. I loved the Gaelic too; upfront it is a bit harsh but there is a lilting softness in the background.
For those that enjoy music inspired by trains, I grew up with this one, here performed by the NCO (https://youtu.be/Z6R593Ekw04). A very nice and measured performance of Villa-Loboz's 'Little Train on the Caipira' from his Bachianas Brasileiras No. 2. I recommend it to you if you have five minutes to spare. Dvorak was a railway enthusiast as well, but I don't know of any train inspired piece from his oeuvre, unless there are others on the forum that can advise otherwise. Happy New Year all. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: bobm on January 01, 2021, 10:30:50 Agreed Oxonhutch - just finished watching it this morning, as the snow falls outside.
Also gives me an excuse to post one of my favourite photos in my collection! (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/glen0101.jpg) Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: Robin Summerhill on January 01, 2021, 11:36:47 Dvorak was a railway enthusiast as well, but I don't know of any train inspired piece from his oeuvre, unless there are others on the forum that can advise otherwise. Happy New Year all. Ahh Dvorak. A Czech who wrote his New World Symphony after going to America, a piece of music that in the UK will forever conjure up images of Yorkshire accents, brown bread and Gold Hill in Shaftesbury... Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: Western Pathfinder on January 01, 2021, 12:03:42 Can't help but think of the late Tony Capstick.
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: Robin Summerhill on January 01, 2021, 12:51:40 Can't help but think of the late Tony Capstick. For anyone who doesnt know what we are thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2AcJSkUw6M Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: smokey on January 02, 2021, 17:24:00 Bagpipes, I hate Bagpipes, 8)
I love Bagpipes :D Let me explain. when reproduced on TV, Record player, CD or any electrical appliance Bagpipes sound bad. But when listened to directly IE as they are being played live, it's a sound that is wonderful. :) Bagpipes just DON'T reproduce well. >:( Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: CyclingSid on January 02, 2021, 18:31:29 Sounds like another Marmite subject.
Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: Robin Summerhill on January 02, 2021, 19:45:33 Sounds like another Marmite subject. Perhaps it is, but why that should be the case has intrigued me for years because it is almost uniquely confined to England. I know, so is Marmite, but I am talking about bagpipes. ;) There are plenty of instruments the world over that rely on a reservoir of air to operate. There are such beasts as Northumbrian pipes and accordions to mention just a few. There are also other instruments that make a sound through vibrating reeds. My adoptive mother would tell anyone who hung around long enough that she hated bagpipes; ?just like wailing cats? she would say. It struck me at a very young age that a badly played violin sounds a lot more like wailing cats than bagpipes as does, to my ears at least, most of the output from Bela Bartok. Symphony for three Belfast sinks and a tin can often springs to mind but perhaps I am just a Philistine... Anyway, I digress. There is a popular myth that bagpipes were banned after the Battle of Culloden in 1745 under the Dress Act of 1747. Some limited research before I posted this suggested that that is probably not the case, but there was certainly much anti-Scottish feeling around in England at the time. I wonder whether one of that feeling?s consequences was the English learning to dislike bagpipes, and that learned, possibly Pavlovian behaviour, has been passed down the generations to this day. I accept his has got very little to do with a documentary on the Fort William to Mallaig line in Gaelic, but this just seemed an interesting digression! ;D Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: grahame on January 02, 2021, 23:35:37 Bagpipes just DON'T reproduce well. >:( Bit like pandas, then? This thread has gone way off. Lovely pictures and during the show I did some screen grabs. As the pictures are some 120 years old, I wonder if they are out of copyright such that I can include them here? I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet. Tempted by easement 700784 Quote Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: PhilWakely on January 03, 2021, 08:17:18 <snip> I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet. Tempted by easement 700784 Quote Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems. Buy yoursel(f/ves) a Freedom of Scotland (or Highland) Railrover. Buses on Skye are included, as are the Calmac ferries. Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: rogerw on January 03, 2021, 12:29:09 <snip> I am very tempted this summer to visit the line again ... plans for 2020, retired, were for me to take a series of outings - some alone and some with Lisa and that plan was discussed and renewed but a year later, yesterday. Lisa like the occasional week of peace and quiet. Tempted by easement 700784 Quote Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems. Buy yoursel(f/ves) a Freedom of Scotland (or Highland) Railrover. Buses on Skye are included, as are the Calmac ferries. Unless it has changed recently, Highland rover tickets are not valid on the buses on Skye but do cover the Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: smokey on January 03, 2021, 14:29:57 Something awful happen to Bagpipes in 1996.
They were up to 1996, classified as a Weapon of War ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Fort William to Mallaig - documentary BBC 21:00 on 31.12.20 Post by: grahame on January 08, 2021, 22:46:41 2 sets of bagpipes and not a harp in sight ... "World's most scenic railway journeys" on Channel 5 from 9 this evening, narrated by Bill Nighy.
Lovely to see samples of places on the line itself, and the scenery and people around, somewhat disjoint continuity and issues. Putting that aside, one of those people we met was John Yellowlees, who I met on the platform at Cambridge North soon after it opened and travelled with down to London (Hi, John - if you ever happen to read this - hi from the forum and from Melksham!). A lovely line and great pictures and an ambassador and enthusiast for rail in Scotland - retired now but not really retired. I look forward to the opportunity to travelling the West Highland line again - summer next year if not summer this, and perhaps catching up with friends in Scotland (http://www.wellho.net/pix/whl_20210108_00.jpg) (http://www.wellho.net/pix/whl_20210108_01.jpg) This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |