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Title: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2020, 06:01:03
Looking at an old railway map the other day, I did a double take at one one of the branch lines ... scratched my head (yes, then washed my hands!) until I realised the place had been renamed.  Out of area - but can you get it?

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Aldstone&above=&below=)

And that got me thinking other "might have been" names had history not re-christened places:

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Dudcote&above=&below=change+for+Isis)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Handborough&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Meolcham&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Aquae+Sulis&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Tone+Tun&above=&below=for+Myned)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Durocornovium&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Bradenford&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Ad+Divisas&above=&below=)

Then there are the "might-have-been"s that never were:

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Bissmills&above=&below=)
(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Tamarmouth&above=&below=for+Torpoint)

Mostly obvious with a bit of thought, or a quick search.   What might your town have been called?


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Reading General on April 26, 2020, 07:34:29
It was my understanding that the railway used Didcot instead of Dudcote, much like Handborough/Hanborough.

Reading should probably revert back to the older spelling Redding, as it would make internet searches far easier. Other spelling changes locally are Tylehirst, Erleigh and quite surprisingly Oakingham missing the W.

Me and a group of friends often message using phonetically spelt words in the way Reddin' folk pronounce them, from years of listening to the old fellas on the Tilehurst End at Elm Park.  'Daen Taen' 'Alwm Park' 'Me oise cream as maw-Ed' that sort of stuff. Even area names have changed with Reddin folk, 'Topperwhitley' 'Norcut Raendabeit'. A Guard on a train once told me that only people from Reading put a 'R' in Bath, 'Barf Spar'


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2020, 07:59:37
Other spelling changes locally are Tylehirst, Erleigh and quite surprisingly Oakingham missing the W.

I'm guessing that Erleigh was an early name for Earley? ... Sorry - couldn't resist!

Your point on phonetics is a good one - the spoken language was universal before many people could read and write and there were lots of forms of the same place and, yes, some have changed.  I remember the "County Roundabout" or "County Ground Roundabout" that got a local name which then became official.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: JontyMort on April 26, 2020, 08:17:02

Your point on phonetics is a good one - the spoken language was universal before many people could read and write...

Indeed. And one side effect of this ‘ere education is that “spelling pronunciations” drive out the traditional ones. Romsey* and Honiton are the two that immediately spring to mind in (or just about in) our area. And yet nobody would dream of pronouncing London as “Lonndon”.

*Strongs have a Rumsey Brown to prove this point.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: froome on April 26, 2020, 08:36:59
Bristol could easily have found itself being called Froomemouth rather than Brigstow, as it was in medieval times.

Which should give a clue as to where my user name comes from.  :)


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Lee on April 26, 2020, 08:46:17


Then there are the "might-have-been"s that never were:

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Bissmills&above=&below=)

The kind of place that will not let you go?


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: ellendune on April 26, 2020, 09:19:08
Looking at an old railway map the other day, I did a double take at one one of the branch lines ... scratched my head (yes, then washed my hands!) until I realised the place had been renamed.  Out of area - but can you get it?

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Durocornovium&above=&below=)

Durocornovium Junction please (Swindon)

The roman mansio was a little to the east of Swindon and gave its name to a farm and eventually the district of Dorcan.  But then Swindon was a little to the south of the Junction.  Incidentally the mansio - included the loacl roman post office, so it is rather fitting that the major mail sorting centre for Swindon, Oxford and Reading is there!


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: JayMac on April 26, 2020, 10:13:20
My home village station could have been:

Combe Templariorum


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2020, 10:54:59
My home village station could have been:

Combe Templariorum

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Combe+Templariorum&region=Southern&below=change+for+Aquae Sulis&above=home+of+bignosemac)


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: rogerw on April 26, 2020, 11:50:38
How about trying Higher Frome Vauchurch


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: stuving on April 26, 2020, 12:11:37
Other spelling changes locally are Tylehirst, Erleigh and quite surprisingly Oakingham missing the W.

I'm guessing that Erleigh was an early name for Earley? ... Sorry - couldn't resist!

I suspect Erleigh is more mock-medieval - or just one of many old spellings. But however you spell it, it was some way away. The station ought perhaps to have been called Little Hungerford.

Next along (ignoring the obviously new Winnersh Triangle) we have Winnersh, which was initially Sindlesham & Hurst Halt. While the parish called Winnersh is old, there wasn't any settlement there, just a farm. The bigger names on the map are King Street and, yes, Sindlesham as the nearest village. Hurst, however is ... nearer Twyford.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: JontyMort on April 26, 2020, 13:14:04
My home village station could have been:

Combe Templariorum

(http://www.wellho.net/demo/totem.php?main=Combe+Templariorum&region=Southern&below=change+for+Aquae Sulis&above=home+of+bignosemac)

“Aquae Sulis Forum Reginae” presumably?


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: johnneyw on April 26, 2020, 15:13:50
Redland Station in Bristol could have so easily have been named Cotham as the boundary between the two suburbs is widely regarded as the Severn Beach Line on which lies.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2020, 19:47:10
“Aquae Sulis Forum Reginae” presumably?

Stations do not typically have the "Royal" in front - not "Royal Leamington Spa" or "Royal Tunbridge Wells" or "Royal Meols Cop" but "Leamington Spa", "Tunbridge Wells" and "Meols Cop".


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 26, 2020, 19:56:00
Redland Station in Bristol could have so easily have been named Cotham as the boundary between the two suburbs is widely regarded as the Severn Beach Line on which lies.
Was going to post exactly this, and it's right next to Cotham Gardens. I guess it would be a bit more, but only a tiny bit more, of a push for Montpellier to have been St Andrew[']s.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: JontyMort on April 26, 2020, 20:04:18
“Aquae Sulis Forum Reginae” presumably?

Stations do not typically have the "Royal" in front - not "Royal Leamington Spa" or "Royal Tunbridge Wells" or "Royal Meols Cop" but "Leamington Spa", "Tunbridge Wells" and "Meols Cop".

I couldn’t work out how to do Green Park - hence Queens Square.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2020, 20:20:31
“Aquae Sulis Forum Reginae” presumably?

Stations do not typically have the "Royal" in front - not "Royal Leamington Spa" or "Royal Tunbridge Wells" or "Royal Meols Cop" but "Leamington Spa", "Tunbridge Wells" and "Meols Cop".

I couldn’t work out how to do Green Park - hence Queens Square.

Ah, sorry - got "Queen" and "Royal" confused.  I had to study Latin at school and it was the very first subject I gave up.


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on April 26, 2020, 20:55:29
You can still take a canal journey from Netherpool to Lower Mitton, but sadly Lower Mitton hasn't had trains since January 1970...


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Andy on April 27, 2020, 10:40:39
Train managers and station announcers would have had fun with some of these!

Essa
Tewyn Plustry
Porth Ia
Logh
Porth

Heyl
Pensans
Aberfal
Lyskerwyd
Kambronn


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Red Squirrel on April 27, 2020, 11:19:40
Redland Station in Bristol could have so easily have been named Cotham as the boundary between the two suburbs is widely regarded as the Severn Beach Line on which lies.
Was going to post exactly this, and it's right next to Cotham Gardens. I guess it would be a bit more, but only a tiny bit more, of a push for Montpellier to have been St Andrew[']s.

Not a push at all!

For most regular folk (the kind of people who might wear tennis shoes or an occasional python boot) Montpelier is the area to the south of the Montpelier train station and St Andrews is the area to the north. But what's this: St Andrew's Church was south of the station, and Montpelier farm was to the north.

Royal Mail appear to follow most people's perception (so Richmond Road is labelled as Montpelier, whilst North Road is St Andrews) but Bristol City Council put North Road in Bishopston and other places north of the tracks in Montpelier.

What would I call it? 'Gloucester Road' has a certain ring... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtwCRPfOcE


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 27, 2020, 11:43:32
That is both tragic and delightful!  ;D

Technically Gloucester Road wouldn't quite fit – it's still Cheltenham Road at the Arches – but for the areal, yes. Or maybe the station could be called The Arches?


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: johnneyw on April 27, 2020, 11:56:47
Redland Station in Bristol could have so easily have been named Cotham as the boundary between the two suburbs is widely regarded as the Severn Beach Line on which lies.
Was going to post exactly this, and it's right next to Cotham Gardens.

The currently used platform is certainly Redland, a reopened opposite platform could be called Cotham. Hey presto, 2 stations for the price of one!  :D 
Well, certain elements within government did say they wanted more radical thinkers!  ::)


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: JayMac on April 27, 2020, 14:50:26
That is both tragic and delightful!  ;D

Technically Gloucester Road wouldn't quite fit – it's still Cheltenham Road at the Arches – but for the areal, yes. Or maybe the station could be called The Arches?

What about Cat & Wheel Station?


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 27, 2020, 15:48:12
That is both tragic and delightful!  ;D

Technically Gloucester Road wouldn't quite fit – it's still Cheltenham Road at the Arches – but for the areal, yes. Or maybe the station could be called The Arches?

What about Cat & Wheel Station?
;D I haven't been in there since, ooh, 1988 I think. But it's still there! It's probably been there even longer than the Doctor Marten's shop...  :D


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: johnneyw on April 27, 2020, 15:49:25
That is both tragic and delightful!  ;D

Technically Gloucester Road wouldn't quite fit – it's still Cheltenham Road at the Arches – but for the areal, yes. Or maybe the station could be called The Arches?

What about Cat & Wheel Station?

Estate agents would try to call it "Clifton Gateway".


Title: Re: What your station might have been called [DotD 26.4.20]
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 29, 2020, 00:25:27
Until about 100 years ago, Nailsea wasn't more than a group of three rather small village centres, built on a slight hill above the surrounding often flooded areas, gradually becoming a town.  According to Margaret Thomas, a local expert historian, in her 'The Heritage Book of Nailsea' (ISBN 0 86023 535 1), the name was generally spelled 'Naylsey'.

That's perhaps academic, anyway, as my local railway station is actually just within the parish of Backwell.  ::)




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