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Anybody seen a special  timetable for 1 & 2 June between Paignton and Newton Abbott and beyond.

_{[This post was concerning the 2019 Air Show - Red Squirrel]}

There are no STP (short term planning) trains between NTA and PGN showing on data feeds for those dates, except some changes to CrossCountry services for engineering work elsewhere.

One to ask GWR directly if they're putting on additional trains. May just be lengthening existing services.

Looks like one extra train running maybe two.

2Z30 958 Exeter St David - 10.44 Paignton. only stopping at Dawlish, Teignmouth, Newton Abbott, Torquay still gives a 44 minute gap at Paignton

2Z30 came in  9 car 800314 (about 300 passengers). After 10minutes reversed empty as 5Z31 back to Exeter.


The service trains 2T10 came in left as 2Z21 and subsequent locals came in as T and left as Z

5Z31 must be coming back as 2Z31 Exeter 11.54 Paignton 12.43.

All the time I had. Try to get back later.

At Paignton they have open a temporary Exit/Entry from the rear of platform 2 making the passengers detour through the car park which is closed as is the station toilets.

When was the last time a through Plymouth to Paignton passenger service ran?

2Z32 (12:32 Plymouth to Paignton) which was formed by a 2+4 HST GTi.

Summary of what happened this afternoon bearing in mind the show finished at 5.30pm. People were leaving early.
Timetabled service.
1700 Paddington
1711 Exmouth
1750 Exmouth
1810 XC Birmingham 5V77
1852 Exeter
1930 Exmouth
1951 Exeter
2020 Exeter
2120 Exeter


Arrived just to see the
1700 leave 9 car 80-----
1711 143& 150/2 (4 Cars) Full &Standing
1754 150001 (3 Cars) Full &Standing
1810 5V77 cancelled
1811 1Z77 150216 (2 Cars) Full & standing
the train 2T23 to make up the 1852 was put into platform 1 as an extra train 2Z50 was right behind and went into platform 2
1842 2Z44 800314 (9 cars) Full and standing and 2T23 shunted
1852 2E51 Exeter 143&143 (4 cars)
1930 2F55 was no longer there to see stock but left on time
1951 2E54 ditto
2020 looks to back to timtable

So between 1700 and 1842 both 9 cars there were 3 trains comprising 9 cars. The customers were not happy but they were being given bottles of water and there were portaloos in the car park.

God  knows what will happen tomorrow as the show starts at 1130am at the first timetabled arrivals are 945 and 1054

Mystery train at Paignton open trains has it arriving as 1C22 and leaving as 5C22 at 2035. went west at Newton abbot presumably to Laira

09:45 from Exeter
10:03 from Newton Abbot
10:17 from Exeter
10:36 from Plymouth
10:54 from Exmouth
11:09 from Newton Abbot

I hope they are long trains as The Red Arrows kick off at 11.30

Revived this as airshow in two weeks.
Arrivals
0936 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
0946 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
0952 222 ex Bristol
1002 800 ex Plymouth forms the 1056 to Paddington.
1024 800 ex Taunton
1040 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
1051 800 ex Exeter 1T61
1108 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
1125 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
1148 800 ex Newton Abbot 1T62
1158 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
1205 800 ex Paddington
1220 800 ex Newton Abbot 1T63
1229 150 or 166 ex Exmouth
1252 150 or 166 ex Exmouth

Good if they can pull it off.

Return traffic
1615 Exmouth 150 or 166
1630 Newton Abbot 800 1E50
1652 Exmouth 150 or 166
1705 Paddington 800 1A34
1714 Exmouth 150 or 166
1730 Newton Abbot 800 1E51
1739 Exmouth 150 or 166
1800 Exeter 800 1E52
1818 Exmouth 150 or 166
1832 Exeter 800 1E53
1852 Exeter 150 or 166
1918 Exmouth 150 or 166
1928 Bristol 221 1M77 this was cancelled last time
1938 Exeter 150 or 166
2006 Newton Abbot 800 2A63

Since the new May 2022 timetable 4 166s (or a 165) are covering the 7 Paignton Exmouth diagrams.

Meanwhile the Dartmouth Steam Railway don't seem to be running a late train after the Red Devils on the Saturday. Presumably they don't think it's worth their while even diesel-hauled, but I'd far rather have used the train last time than join the scrum for the bus.

Perhaps rename the forum title Torbay Airshow?

Good idea! Done!

What actually happened. Torrential rain until midday but then dry but overcast.
1024 1T60 additional ex Taunton turned up as 150203
1051 1T61 cancelled
1148 1T62  ex Newton Abbot 150203
1220 1T63 cancelled
The seven local trains were made of 2 3car 166s, 1 3car 165, 3 2 x150s and 1 150/158
Trains terminating in platform 2 the passengers had to exit by the temporary exit at the south end of the platform into the car park.

The Red Arrows closed the show at 1700 finishing about 1720/25
1630 1E50 cancelled
1730 1E51 cancelled
1739 departed on time some seats to front available. Queue held in car park.
1800 1E52 cancelled
1818 left early at 1811 full and standing
1832 1E53 departed 1847 802103 9 coaches full and standing except at front in first class although two motorised wheelchairs and a buggy boarded here.
I left but still people queuing in car park
1852 left 3 late at 1855 and lost time all the way to Exeter made up 150232/158762. The 158 not a good train for crowds.
1918 on time
1928 on time

They still haven't sorted out the big gaps 1739 1811 1847