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Title: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: grahame on March 07, 2019, 01:28:23
From The BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47474956)

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Train operator Northern's six-carriage long services in and out of Leeds station have been delayed by two years, BBC News has learned.

The new trains were due to be introduced at the end of this year, but will now not begin until late 2021.

The delay is because longer platforms at Leeds will not be ready in time

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From later in the article

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The delay means long-suffering passengers on services into Leeds will not benefit from much longer trains for an additional two years. The introduction of shorter new trains should not be affected.

And six-carriage services will run from end of this year on other parts of Northern's network, just not through Leeds.

However, the dispute and the sequence of events shines a light on the failings of an overly complicated rail system, which a government-commissioned review is looking to fix.


Title: Re: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: Timmer on March 07, 2019, 06:19:13
Further proof that the current set up is not fit for purpose and hasn’t been for a long time.


Title: Re: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: grahame on March 07, 2019, 07:03:36
I'm seeing comment elsewhere that the plan on (some ?) routes through Leeds is to replace 4 car trains with 6 car ones comprising 2 x 3 car units ... anticipated result for 2 years of delay from Leeds being a reduction in the length of peak trains from 4 to 3 carriages.  Not my area ... so confirmation / comment / clarification / correction welcome - but it does rather sound like it helps paint a picture of problems rather wider than our area.


Title: Re: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: martyjon on March 07, 2019, 08:00:20
I'm seeing comment elsewhere that the plan on (some ?) routes through Leeds is to replace 4 car trains with 6 car ones comprising 2 x 3 car units ... anticipated result for 2 years of delay from Leeds being a reduction in the length of peak trains from 4 to 3 carriages.  Not my area ... so confirmation / comment / clarification / correction welcome - but it does rather sound like it helps paint a picture of problems rather wider than our area.

Heard on Auntie Beeb/s radio4 news at 7.00am.


Title: Re: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: bradshaw on March 07, 2019, 09:24:11

Another TOC/NR/DfT triangle
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-47474956?__twitter_impression=true


Title: Re: Two year delay on longer trains at Leeds
Post by: Noggin on March 08, 2019, 14:15:17
I'm seeing comment elsewhere that the plan on (some ?) routes through Leeds is to replace 4 car trains with 6 car ones comprising 2 x 3 car units ... anticipated result for 2 years of delay from Leeds being a reduction in the length of peak trains from 4 to 3 carriages.  Not my area ... so confirmation / comment / clarification / correction welcome - but it does rather sound like it helps paint a picture of problems rather wider than our area.

Indeed, was in Leeds and York yesterday and was quite surprised to see how many Pacers there were still around. Saw a few LNER IET's too - I reckon that green suits them much better than the red and white.



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