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Title: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: PhilWakely on November 30, 2018, 18:06:45 During the Whiteball Tunnel blockade in February/March 2019 there will be a requirement to divert West of England services over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter. I understand that the intention is to make maximum use of the remaining available full HST sets. However, by that time, Old Oak Common will have been closed, so there will potentially be a lack of overnight stabling facilities for HST sets. Therefore, logically, the first couple of Down services would be covered by IET units.
Whilst discussing the overnight IET clearance testing run over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter on 30/11 here (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20483.msg253085), the remote possibility of the bank between Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central not being cleared for IET running in time for the Whiteball Tunnel blockade was mentioned. Should that remote possibility become reality, what overnight stabling for HSTs would be available at the Paddington end? Or, will there be a requirement for overnight EHSTs from Laira or St Phillips Marsh? *** Edited to correct a couple of speeling mistooks *** Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: phile on November 30, 2018, 18:36:09 During the Whiteball Tunnel blockade in February/March 2019 there will be a requirement to divert West of England services over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter. I understand that the intention is to make maximum use of the remaining available full HST sets. However, by that time, Old Oak Common will have been closed, so there will potentially be a lack of overnight stabling facilities for HST sets. Therefore, logically, the first couple of Down services would be covered by IET units. Whilst discussing the overnight IET clearance testing run over the ex-LSWR route to Exeter on 31/11 here (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20483.msg253085), the remote possibility of the bank between Exeter St Davids and Exeter Central not being cleared for IET running in time for the Whitball Tunnel blockade was mentioned. Should that remote possibility become reality, what overnight stabling for HSTs would be available? Or, will there be a requirement for overnight EHSTs from Laira or St Phillips Marsh? There is already a thread here but seems the Exeter Central to Exeter St Davids called off last night so still a known issue http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20483.0 Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 30, 2018, 19:04:51 It has been mentioned that Reading TCD will be used for the odd HST, not sure if that is confirmed or not?
Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: JayMac on November 30, 2018, 22:02:22 Reading TCD sees one HST stable during weekday afternoons. I wonder whether overnight stabling may be precluded due to lack of space.
All HST diagrams until year end have no overnight stabling at the London end. Sets start and end their day at either Laira, Long Rock or St Phillips Marsh, excepting one HST that overnights at Worcester. Weekday HST diagrams from 10th to 28th December. IW1 1A71 04.51 Plymouth - Paddington 1C74 09.03 Paddington - Plymouth 1A87 12.55 Plymouth - Paddington 1C90 17.03 Paddington - Penzance IW2 1A82 09.00 Penzance - Paddington 1C86 15.03 Paddington - Penzance IW3 1A79 06.47 Penzance - Paddington 1C82 13.03 Paddington - Plymouth 1A96 16.57 Plymouth - Paddington 1C98 21.03 Paddington - Plymouth IW4 2T04 07.06 Newton Abbot - Paignton 1A12 07.48 Paignton - Paddington 1C81 12.33 Paddington - Taunton 1A89 15.33 Taunton - Paddington 1C93 18.33 Paddington - Exeter SD (FO Plymouth) IW5 1A72 05.53 Plymouth - Paddington 1D20 09.50 Paddington - Oxford 1P26 12.01 Oxford - Paddington (ECS to Reading TCD & stable) (ECS back to Paddington) 1C91 17.33 Paddington - Paignton 2A65 21.35 Paignton - Newton Abbot IW6 1C40 07.02 Plymouth - Penzance 1A85 10.00 Penzance - Paddington 1C88 16.03 Paddington - Penzance IW7 1A81 07.41 Penzance - Paddington 1C84 14.03 Paddington - Penzance IW8 1A75 05.05 Penzance - Paddington 1C78 11.03 Paddington - Penzance 1A91 15.00 Plymouth - Paddington 1C94 19.03 Paddington - Plymouth (FO Penzance) IW9 1A31 19.30 Bristol TM - Paddington 1W42 21.48 Paddington - Worcester SH IW10 1P04 05.11 Worcester SH - Paddington 1W00 08.21 Paddington - Hereford 1P31 12.09 Hereford - Paddington 1C23 17.00 Paddington - Bristol TM IW11 1A06 06.20 Weston SM - Paddington 1C08 09.30 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A16 12.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1B42 14.15 Paddington - Cardiff 1L82 16.56 Cardiff - Paddington 1C28 19.30 Paddington - Weston SM IW12 1A02 05.30 Bristol TM - Paddington 1B10 07.45 Paddington - Swansea 1L55 11.29 Swansea - Paddington 1C19 15.00 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A26 17.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1U28 19.12 Paddington - Bristol TM IW13 1A70 06.05 Frome - Paddington 1C06 08.30 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A14 11.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1W27 13.22 Paddington - Worcester FS 1P37 15.51 Worcester FS - Paddington 1W03 18.22 Paddington - Hereford Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: REVUpminster on November 30, 2018, 23:12:46 Reading TCD sees one HST stable during weekday afternoons. I wonder whether overnight stabling may be precluded due to lack of space. What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR the nerve to make it an IET.All HST diagrams until year end have no overnight stabling at the London end. Sets start and end their day at either Laira, Long Rock or St Phillips Marsh, excepting one HST that overnights at Worcester. Weekday HST diagrams from 10th to 28th December. IW1 1A71 04.51 Plymouth - Paddington 1C74 09.03 Paddington - Plymouth 1A87 12.55 Plymouth - Paddington 1C90 17.03 Paddington - Penzance IW2 1A82 09.00 Penzance - Paddington 1C86 15.03 Paddington - Penzance IW3 1A79 06.47 Penzance - Paddington 1C82 13.03 Paddington - Plymouth 1A96 16.57 Plymouth - Paddington 1C98 21.03 Paddington - Plymouth IW4 2T04 07.06 Newton Abbot - Paignton 1A12 07.48 Paignton - Paddington 1C81 12.33 Paddington - Taunton 1A89 15.33 Taunton - Paddington 1C93 18.33 Paddington - Exeter SD (FO Plymouth) IW5 1A72 05.53 Plymouth - Paddington 1D20 09.50 Paddington - Oxford 1P26 12.01 Oxford - Paddington (ECS to Reading TCD & stable) (ECS back to Paddington) 1C91 17.33 Paddington - Paignton 2A65 21.35 Paignton - Newton Abbot IW6 1C40 07.02 Plymouth - Penzance 1A85 10.00 Penzance - Paddington 1C88 16.03 Paddington - Penzance IW7 1A81 07.41 Penzance - Paddington 1C84 14.03 Paddington - Penzance IW8 1A75 05.05 Penzance - Paddington 1C78 11.03 Paddington - Penzance 1A91 15.00 Plymouth - Paddington 1C94 19.03 Paddington - Plymouth (FO Penzance) IW9 1A31 19.30 Bristol TM - Paddington 1W42 21.48 Paddington - Worcester SH IW10 1P04 05.11 Worcester SH - Paddington 1W00 08.21 Paddington - Hereford 1P31 12.09 Hereford - Paddington 1C23 17.00 Paddington - Bristol TM IW11 1A06 06.20 Weston SM - Paddington 1C08 09.30 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A16 12.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1B42 14.15 Paddington - Cardiff 1L82 16.56 Cardiff - Paddington 1C28 19.30 Paddington - Weston SM IW12 1A02 05.30 Bristol TM - Paddington 1B10 07.45 Paddington - Swansea 1L55 11.29 Swansea - Paddington 1C19 15.00 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A26 17.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1U28 19.12 Paddington - Bristol TM IW13 1A70 06.05 Frome - Paddington 1C06 08.30 Paddington - Bristol TM 1A14 11.00 Bristol TM - Paddington 1W27 13.22 Paddington - Worcester FS 1P37 15.51 Worcester FS - Paddington 1W03 18.22 Paddington - Hereford Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: JayMac on December 01, 2018, 00:10:55 What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR the nerve to make it an IET. Shown on RTT as IET from 10th December. Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: Timmer on December 01, 2018, 08:01:39 Quote What about IC92 1803 the last Paddington - Penzance. Have GWR the nerve to make it an IET. Well they are going to have to sooner or later as by the Spring GWR won’t be operating HSTs on IC routes.Title: Re: HST overnight stabling at the London end once OOC is closed Post by: bobm on December 01, 2018, 10:30:56 Reading TCD sees one HST stable during weekday afternoons. I wonder whether overnight stabling may be precluded due to lack of space. Might be space or a need to keep one power car per set running if there is no shore line - and with the current legal case regarding depot noise referred to in the annual accounts it might have been thought prudent to avoid the practice at night. 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