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Title: Can anyone ID this? Post by: grahame on March 09, 2008, 11:58:15 Question (competiton style) in header
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/brptz.jpg) And when you have, what can we learn from it? Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: Timmer on March 09, 2008, 12:01:06 Beeching report?
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: grahame on March 09, 2008, 12:02:29 Beeching report? Correct ... and showing what by the different types of lines? ;) Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: eightf48544 on March 09, 2008, 12:11:42 Jjust relooked at my set of Beeching maps.
Beeching Map No.2 showing density of freight traffic. Compared withMap 1 passenger traffic it's the split at Thingley Junction between 10,00 & 50,000 tons a week from Swindon and 5000 to 10000 on each branch which is the give away. Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: grahame on March 09, 2008, 12:25:15 Correct (after the edit). I was interested in it showing (ballpark) the same amount of traffic going each way at Thingley ... and also the relative traffic on lines to Weymouth, the Didcot to Winchester line and the Somerset and Dorset.
Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: eightf48544 on March 09, 2008, 12:36:50 Weymouth quayside line was still in use, early tomatoes, Jersey Royals etc still offloaded to rail.
My first job at Waterloo was filing accident reports under Weymouth it was. Car (Reg No) hit by train (date). At least once a week during the summer. We used to think that the shunters had a sweep on who could hit the most cars in a season. Not many people realise how far a Mark 1 swings out on a bend and even though there were striped lines, drivers still thought we were joking being that far out from the rail. Didcot Winchester was carrying a lot of Fawley oil traffic at that time keeping it off the mainlines to Basingstoke and Reading to Didcot. Including 9Fs. S&D was coal from collieries near Radstock the line was open to Mangotsfield until a spur was put in near Radstock onto Frome line. Title: Re: Can anyone ID this? Post by: Lee on March 09, 2008, 12:40:40 Of course, there is the question of whether the traffic surveys were accurate :
Here is a letter from former Transport Minister Derek Twigg regarding the Melksham/TransWilts issue, followed by an analysis by grahame (link below.) http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/melkshamrailway/145_Letter_from_Derek_Twigg.html Quote from the above link : Quote from: grahame "I has seen the statistics quoted by the Department for Transport at the time of the original franchise specification, and noted they were taken over a relatively short period (8 days) which he suspects might have included the Easter weekend. As someone with a University Degree which included a major statistics element, I can assure the minister that a sample of this size is insufficient to be statistically significant - he would need the statistics from around 15 to 20 days, chosen at random throughout the year, to be able to read anything into the figuures that could relate to overall usage on a service which may well have a seasonal element." Quote from the Beeching Report : Quote from: Beeching Report "The traffic surveys, which were made in great detail, extended over only one week, the week ending on 23rd April, 1961, because it was impossible to continue the massive recording effort involved for a longer period. It was realised, therefore, that conclusions about some streams of traffic and about some parts of the system which are affected by seasonal changes could not be based firmly on the traffic surveys alone. Subject to this limitation, however, there can be little doubt about the general reliability of the picture revealed." This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |