Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: Lee on March 07, 2008, 11:49:09 A primary school boy's life was saved after firefighters rescued him from a tiny ledge above the railway line in Teignmouth (link below.)
http://thisisdevon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=141507&command=displayContent&sourceNode=257390&home=yes&more_nodeId1=257393&contentPK=20085947 A Network Rail spokesman said during such incidents, drivers are immediately notified through signallers. He said: Quote from: Network Rail "Drivers are advised to slow down and proceed with caution. Speed limits can even be lowered down to walking pace - about five miles-per-hour - in case they need to stop suddenly. "We take safety extremely seriously. We work with emergency services and act on their advice so we can take steps to alert train drivers of any problems." Title: Re: Boy Rescued From Teignmouth Rail Ledge Post by: WashuChan on March 07, 2008, 13:21:07 Lucky lad..sounds like it needs to have a bit better protection from the kiddies.
Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: Lee on October 05, 2008, 20:17:56 From the FGW website :
Train services between Newton Abbot and Exeter St Davids are being disrupted due to a line-side fire in the Teignmouth area.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays of up to 60 minutes can be expected. Trains are now able to run in both directions at a reduced speed. First Great Western and Cross Country are limited between them to three trains an hour in each direction. Replacement road transport will also be in operation. Any customers who do not wish to travel today will have their tickets honoured tomorrow. Title: Re: Lineside Fire In The Teignmouth Area (05/10/2008) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 06, 2008, 21:17:13 Fears about gas cylinders, again, apparently!
Quote Trains between Exeter and Plymouth were severely disrupted as firefighters tackled a blaze at a holiday cottage. The blaze broke out at the chalet near Teignmouth and the line had to be closed for two hours during Sunday evening because of safety concerns. Firefighters feared gas cylinders nearby might explode in the heat and there was asbestos in the building. For full details, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7654063.stm Title: Re: Lineside Fire In The Teignmouth Area (05/10/2008) Post by: Super Guard on October 09, 2008, 17:38:48 I was working Sunday evening and have to say that the vast majority of travellers were understanding and patient while we got everyone on their way, even though trying to get hold of alternative road transport was slow and difficult, so thanks from me.
Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 18, 2009, 21:07:08 From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8419982.stm):
Quote A controversial device has been turned off at a Devon railway station, after complaints from school children. Pupils catching trains from Teignmouth were subjected to a high-pitched noise from a Mosquito device, installed to try to reduce anti-social behaviour. First Great Western has apologised and said it will not activate the device when passengers are travelling. The company said it would continue to use it late at night, when the station was most at risk from vandalism. The device emits a high-frequency sound which is normally audible to people under the age of 25. The "youth crowd dispersal device" had previously been switched on all day, until pupils complained. Dominic Falco from Teignmouth said the Mosquito was affecting some students very badly. "Trying to study for exams with a splitting migraine is no joke," the 18-year-old student said. "It doesn't make sense to attack children going to and from school." First Great Western spokeswoman Cath Millman admitted that legitimate travellers should not have been subjected to the constant noise. "We put a stop to it as soon as we found out about it," she said. Since it was installed about 18 months ago, Ms Millman said there had been a big reduction in graffiti and crime at the station. She said it was a really useful device, which properly used, would benefit everyone. "It makes the station a nicer place to be," she added. Title: Re: Mosquito upsets young travellers at Teignmouth (December 2009) Post by: thetrout on December 18, 2009, 22:02:58 I don't see the point in those things...
they have them on the Public loo's in Westbury & Bradford on Avon... Yet utterly utterly pointless as you always see "youths" hanging around them...! So from my experience, they don't appear to be that useful after all... Personally the noise doesn't bother me... Listening to a 2yo shreak is by far worse...! Title: Re: Mosquito upsets young travellers at Teignmouth (December 2009) Post by: Lee on January 02, 2010, 17:07:27 From the Herald Express: (http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Mosquito-inventor-welcomes-switch-station/article-1662331-detail/article.html)
Quote from: Herald Express 'Mosquito' inventor welcomes switch off at station The man who invented a machine designed to deter teenage vandals has welcomed the device being turned off during the day at a South Devon railway station. Howard Stapleton has campaigned for controls on the use of his device, known as a mosquito, which creates very high-frequency noise which normally only people under the age of 20 can hear. The aim of installing the machine at Teignmouth railway station was to stop groups of troublesome teenagers gathering in areas known to suffer from anti-social behaviour. But there had been complaints as the machine had been working about every 20 minutes for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to the discomfort of travellers and babies. Schoolchildren from South Devon Liberal Youth, councillors and MPs wrote to station owners First Great Western, which has agreed to put the device on a timer to come on only when the station is unmanned. Mr Stapleton, managing director of Compound Security in Merthyr Tydfil, Wales, welcomed the move. He said: "That is how the mosquito device should be used. On railway stations in Holland it is connected to and activated by sophisticated CCTV systems and only used when someone is acting suspiciously. "The system is effective. One Plymouth school installed them after replacing ^20,000 worth of panes of glass. After the system was put in, the annual damage bill was ^30. "But there the machines are principally used in extended holiday periods. "It concerns me that they are being used to create no-go areas for young people. That is discriminatory. "I am the father of five children and I never intended the machine to be used to keep young people out of areas. "That is why I have been talking to the Home Office but no-one in this country is interested in legislating to control the use of the machines, though they are talking about it in Holland which I am very pleased about." He said of the 5,000 units sold, some 3,000 are used in Britain. A First Great Western spokesman said that following a meeting with Teignbridge MP Richard Younger-Ross it had been decided to only turn on the mosquito device at Teignmouth when the station is unmanned. Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: Louis94 on June 30, 2010, 16:36:57 Could not help but notice today, how at Teignmouth the departure screens kept disappearing every 5-10 minutes and showing the FGW logo in various different forms, also noticed that when the screens did this, the automatic announcements failed to go off aswell! ???
Any idea what on earth is going on, the system seems to be so unreliable, or is this just a moment the system is going through in preparation for the new CIS? Also noticed (when the system was working ::)) how Dorris now announces non-stop services there! "The train now approaching platform x does not stop here. Please stand clear of the edge of platform x" Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 30, 2010, 20:10:55 Thanks for raising those points, Louis94 - and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum! :)
I'm not an expert on the situation at Teignmouth, but I rather suspect the problems you describe are typical of occasional CIS failures which seem to occur all over the FGW area these days. The system is getting old, and is clearly beginning to show more and more cracks appearing! ;D Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: Nibat on June 30, 2010, 22:03:45 Just to update you on the current situation.
The CIS at Teignmouth has been down now for about a week and a half. Apparently everything started due to a power cut at Dawlish from where the system is fed, the modem failed then and spme fault on the line made it worse. The system has been working intermitently today because the engineer has been working on it all day and he had to connect and disconnect the modem all the time. Looks like it has been sorted, although dome errors on the telephone line still remain and he couls come again tomorrow to try to definitely fix it. The system is very unreliable due to all the components being very very old. In this case the modems cannot be found in the market any more, so every time one of them fails has to be 'nicked' from somewhere else or recycled from other modems Anyway, the new CIS system is by the looks of it coming soon... Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: Louis94 on June 30, 2010, 22:25:29 Just to update you on the current situation. The CIS at Teignmouth has been down now for about a week and a half. Apparently everything started due to a power cut at Dawlish from where the system is fed, the modem failed then and spme fault on the line made it worse. The system has been working intermitently today because the engineer has been working on it all day and he had to connect and disconnect the modem all the time. Looks like it has been sorted, although dome errors on the telephone line still remain and he couls come again tomorrow to try to definitely fix it. The system is very unreliable due to all the components being very very old. In this case the modems cannot be found in the market any more, so every time one of them fails has to be 'nicked' from somewhere else or recycled from other modems Anyway, the new CIS system is by the looks of it coming soon... Ah that makes sense now! Any idea how long until the new CIS system is due for fitting? weeks, months? and also, any idea who the announcement voices are going to be? Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: James158 on July 01, 2010, 00:11:36 Which stations will be getting the new customer information system? Does that mean that there will be new departure boards and announcements? When will it be up and running?
Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: ldf1985 on July 01, 2010, 17:57:35 Also noticed (when the system was working ::)) how Dorris now announces non-stop services there! "The train now approaching platform x does not stop here. Please stand clear of the edge of platform x" It sounds as if the announcement aspect of the CIS has been upgraded - from what I've learnt, the 'ex-Wessex system' didn't have the capability to announce the warning of through trains. Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: Louis94 on July 01, 2010, 18:15:21 Also noticed (when the system was working ::)) how Dorris now announces non-stop services there! "The train now approaching platform x does not stop here. Please stand clear of the edge of platform x" It sounds as if the announcement aspect of the CIS has been upgraded - from what I've learnt, the 'ex-Wessex system' didn't have the capability to announce the warning of through trains. Sounds it, or it has just been enabled after wessex having it disabled? Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: ldf1985 on July 01, 2010, 21:36:16 Also noticed (when the system was working ::)) how Dorris now announces non-stop services there! "The train now approaching platform x does not stop here. Please stand clear of the edge of platform x" It sounds as if the announcement aspect of the CIS has been upgraded - from what I've learnt, the 'ex-Wessex system' didn't have the capability to announce the warning of through trains. Sounds it, or it has just been enabled after wessex having it disabled? They could have disabled that feature, although I never heard it when Wales and West were in existence or have heard it on the Arriva Trains Wales network. Was the voice the same? Title: Re: Teignmouth CIS troubles Post by: Louis94 on July 01, 2010, 22:31:44 Also noticed (when the system was working ::)) how Dorris now announces non-stop services there! "The train now approaching platform x does not stop here. Please stand clear of the edge of platform x" It sounds as if the announcement aspect of the CIS has been upgraded - from what I've learnt, the 'ex-Wessex system' didn't have the capability to announce the warning of through trains. Sounds it, or it has just been enabled after wessex having it disabled? They could have disabled that feature, although I never heard it when Wales and West were in existence or have heard it on the Arriva Trains Wales network. Was the voice the same? yes voice was the same. used the same "The train now approaching Platform x" as if the train was stopping. it confused me at first for a few seconds! Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 15, 2010, 13:41:58 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-10978910):
Quote A railway worker suffered injuries to his face when an object was thrown from a road in Devon. The man was working near Teignmouth station when the object, thought to be a stone, was thrown from about 14m (45.93ft) above the railway line. The man's colleagues said they had heard a group of youths prior to the object being thrown at about 0030 BST on 8 August. Anyone with information is urged to contact British Transport Police. PC Alan Freeman said: "This was an unprovoked attack. Had the worker been struck directly in the face, the injuries could have been much worse." Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: bobm on June 27, 2014, 21:54:43 For the last few months work has been going on to repaint Teignmouth station.
A lot of it was done while the line was closed due to the breech in the seawall at Dawlish. What I cannot work out is whether there is any significance in the colour scheme chosen. (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/teign.jpg) The station also has new running in boards to match the slogans on the road signs as you enter the town. (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/teign3.jpg) Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: Southern Stag on June 28, 2014, 00:40:06 I've only seen it mid-paint, and not the completed product but it is certainly looking smart now.
Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 28, 2014, 18:19:50 What I cannot work out is whether there is any significance in the colour scheme chosen. I was intrigued by that comment, Bob, as I remembered that there is a rather similar colour scheme on some of the structure at Bristol Temple Meads. And so it is - from my visit today: (http://i.imgur.com/WZGof3l.jpg?3) Is it an old Great Western Railway - or indeed a British Railways Western Region - colour scheme, possibly? :-\ And, by the way, it was a breach in the sea wall at Dawlish: breeches are what you wear when sitting on the back of a horse. ;) :D ;D Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: bobm on June 28, 2014, 19:45:53 And, by the way, it was a breach in the sea wall at Dawlish: breeches are what you wear when sitting on the back of a horse. ;) :D ;D You, or more correctly I,can blame the iPhone for that! ;D Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 28, 2014, 21:13:50 The worst scenario, perhaps, is where you unfortunately suffer from a breach in your breeches - thus revealing your assets to everyone. :P
Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: bobm on June 28, 2014, 21:21:57 What does go on in your mind? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Teignmouth gets a repaint Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 28, 2014, 21:46:51 Best not to ask. ;D
Title: Teignmouth - facilities, services, improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: bobm on October 13, 2017, 18:45:29 For around a year the footbridge at Teignmouth has been closed
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgmfoot.jpg) ...and replaced by a mass of scaffolding spanning the tracks but open to the elements (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgmtemp.jpg) Last month the old structure was craned out and taken away to be refurbished. Work is now carrying on at the station in preparation for its return (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgmold.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgmold2.jpg) Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Surrey 455 on October 13, 2017, 23:05:15 I hope they can do that at my local station too. The bridge has been rusting away since long before I moved there in 2010. The local news site has also had a feature on it recently. The worst of it is on the bridge itself rather than the stairs or supporting pillars. You can't really see that from the photos taken.
BTW I have no fears walking across that bridge but others are allegedly very worried for their lives..... http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/bridge-bookham-train-station-rusted-13628671 Quote A Grade II listed footbridge at Bookham Station has been described as “unsafe” and “rusting away” by residents who are calling for it to be renovated. The iron-clad bridge, which is the only route for commuters to go between platforms, has been a concern for more than five years with one woman saying she felt it “move under foot”. One of the oldest bridges of its kind, the bridge dates back to 1885 and was listed in 1990 but has been in steady decline since the last time any maintenance work is believed to have been done, ten years ago. Keith Reynolds, 72, is the Bookham Residents Association transport officer and says the group has had several people contact them about concerns. He contacted Network Rail about it earlier this week but is yet to get a response. Mr Reynolds, of Sole Farm Road, said: “It's deteriorating and people have said it’s not safe to walk over. "It’s very rusty looking now and even if we had a royal visit coming they would be able to make it look good very easily. “It has [become worse] more recently but it’s been an issue for a number of years. We have noticed bits of the bridge [developing puddles] and we want something done about it before an accident happens. They need to do more preventative work.” Mr Reynolds said that when Network Rail have had to do work on the nearby railway tunnel, which runs underneath Great Bookham Common, they have closed the station on Sundays and he sees this as an option for maintenance work on the bridge. He added: “If it isn’t safe then people can’t get over to the second platform and what are they going to do, walk up the road, over the common, through the mud and around? "I know it’s only a branch line but it’s a service people rely on and [the infrastructure] needs to be constantly maintained.” Shirley Bullen, 57, of Little Bookham Street, is one of those who wants to see the bridge renovated. She said: “It’s disgusting on Network Rail, they shouldn’t be allowing a listed bridge to get in such a bad state. “I’m not shocked because I’ve see it rust but it’s appalling that they think it’s acceptable to not constantly look after it. "I’m not an engineer but some bits look like they are cracking and overgrowth has sprouted through the bottom step.” A Network Rail spokesman confirmed that they have “been contacted by a member of the public and are looking into the matter”. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: stuving on October 13, 2017, 23:27:09 I hope they can do that at my local station too. The bridge has been rusting away since long before I moved there in 2010. The local news site has also had a feature on it recently. The worst of it is on the bridge itself rather than the stairs or supporting pillars. You can't really see that from the photos taken. Yes, I'd noticed that they (whoever they are in this context) seem to have lost faith in the concept of "paint" as way of protecting iron and steel. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: grahame on October 14, 2017, 05:34:12 I hope they can do that at my local station too. The bridge has been rusting away since long before I moved there in 2010. The local news site has also had a feature on it recently. The worst of it is on the bridge itself rather than the stairs or supporting pillars. You can't really see that from the photos taken. BTW I have no fears walking across that bridge but others are allegedly very worried for their lives..... http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/bridge-bookham-train-station-rusted-13628671 I have recently seen a lot worse than Bookham (based on the pictures) ... not in England, but still Network Rail. Whether Bookham could do with maintenance now before it gets much worse, or whether occasional massive repairs are better than ongoing smaller ones, I would not like to speculate. My pictures from somewhere else: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/nbook1.jpg) . (http://www.wellho.net/pix/nbook2.jpg) . (http://www.wellho.net/pix/nbook3.jpg) Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: SandTEngineer on October 14, 2017, 09:50:22 Grahame, perhaps you should report that to the ORR and H&S Executive...... ???
Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: grahame on October 14, 2017, 10:02:38 Grahame, perhaps you should report that to the ORR and H&S Executive...... ??? Unsure - I'm no expert. I'm following on from an article on Bookham footbridge which none-experts feel in unsafe, but I'm sure the experts have looked at and considered safe; any comment / report I make on the one pictured runs the probability of being a false report - there were significant signs of some recent patching which suggest to me that the bridge is in someone's viewfinder. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Red Squirrel on October 14, 2017, 11:20:40 I get the impression that there are a lot of poorly-maintained footbridges in the SomewhereelseRail area, having watched All The Stations...
Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Kernow Otter on October 14, 2017, 12:01:45 With the GWR footbridge at St Austell now replaced and closed, I do wonder if there is any mileage in taking it off site for refurbishment and reuse elsewhere.
Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Western Pathfinder on October 14, 2017, 12:04:23 Pilning would welcome it with open arms!....
Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: bobm on February 09, 2018, 18:49:01 Judging by the work going on in the car park at Teignmouth it looks like the footbridge is about to be put back into place.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgm09021.JPG) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgm09022.JPG) Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Kernow Otter on February 09, 2018, 20:55:13 What gets me is that it is obviously more than possible to do exceptional work to restore these magnificent structures, fit for the 21st century, yet given the slightest excuse bridges such as the one at St Austell are to be removed and given away, when with a little thought they could sensibly and aesthetically be reused elsewhere on the network.
Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: ellendune on February 09, 2018, 21:10:46 What gets me is that it is obviously more than possible to do exceptional work to restore these magnificent structures, fit for the 21st century, yet given the slightest excuse bridges such as the one at St Austell are to be removed and given away, when with a little thought they could sensibly and aesthetically be reused elsewhere on the network. Just because it it possible in one case does not mean it is possible (economically) in another. It depends on a number of factors including the nature and condition of the particular structure. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: Henry on February 11, 2018, 11:20:03 I am not one to admit to liking the desire to restore old structure's that are well past their best.
However in this case, having seen the work carried out, I am very impressed with the restoration. I hope the station user's at Teignmouth appreciate the work carried out, without changing the colour scheme with spray cans or showing an 'aversion' to glass. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: bobm on February 11, 2018, 13:38:58 Overnight the bridge has been craned back into place although not yet in use.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgm11021.JPG) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgm11022.JPG) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/tgm11023.JPG) Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: martyjon on February 11, 2018, 14:10:20 Overnight the bridge has been craned back into place although not yet in use. Doesn't look as if its been craned back high enough for wires to pass under at some future date. ::) Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: devonexpress on April 03, 2018, 21:13:47 Overnight the bridge has been craned back into place although not yet in use. Doesn't look as if its been craned back high enough for wires to pass under at some future date. ::) I doubt wires will ever go along the sea wall. Title: Re: Teignmouth Footbridge goes for refurbishment Post by: plymothian on April 03, 2018, 22:04:26 Reopened on Good Friday.
Title: Teignmouth - improvements and incidents - merged posts Post by: bobm on July 10, 2018, 14:51:19 From Devonlive (https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/large-area-teignmouth-seafront-closed-1768635)
Quote A large object believed to be an unexploded half-ton world war one bomb has been found under Teignmouth Pier. Police, Royal Navy Bomb disposal squad and coastguards called for reinforcements and an exclusion zone was extended at lunchtime today after an initial inspection of the suspect device. Divers who found the bomb say it is 4ft long and 2ft wide. Police have now closed the whole of the beach and seafront from The Point at the Shaldon side to Teignmouth Yacht Club next to the Dawlish rail line. Slightly out of the range of this camera but might just see something as activity continues http://www.teignmouth-nci.org.uk/live-webcam (http://www.teignmouth-nci.org.uk/live-webcam) Plan is to carry out a controlled explosion around 4pm with trains being stopped briefly at that point. Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: Louis94 on July 10, 2018, 15:40:11 Line has been closed since 1500, expected to re-open around 1630.
Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: bobm on July 10, 2018, 15:40:50 Like all great plans.... Railway closed at 3pm while the device was towed a mile out to sea.
The 12:30 Paddington to Penzance was terminated at Exeter St Davids (not good news - particularly as the 11:30 to the West Country was terminated at Bristol Temple Meads due to a train fault). Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: bobm on July 10, 2018, 15:56:17 Line re-opened just after 3.45pm.
Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: a-driver on July 10, 2018, 18:56:30 Obviously the Germans aren’t happy they went out in the group stages whilst England have made the Semi-Finals! ;D
Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: SandTEngineer on July 10, 2018, 19:55:31 BBC quoting it as a WW2 bomb https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-44784001?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-devon-44722873&link_location=live-reporting-story
Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: Oxonhutch on July 10, 2018, 20:26:20 I was going to say. I couldn't think what German aircraft was capable of carrying a 1000 lbs bomb in WW1.
Edited to add ... However wiki says of Zeppelins in 1916 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin#Technological_progress)... "These could carry loads of three to four tons of bombs and reach speeds of up to 103 km/h (64 mph), powered by six 240 hp (180 kW) Maybach engines." ...but I don't think that such large bombs had yet been made. Title: Re: WW1 bomb found near railway at Teignmouth - 10 Jul 18 Post by: Kernow Otter on July 10, 2018, 22:39:28 This only failed to compound my sister's travels from Wellington, (NZ not Somerset). Still exceptional customer service from platform staff at EXD by all accounts, and sister plus 2 little ones now safely delivered to the promised land. BZ, GWR.
Title: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: southwest on October 15, 2020, 00:12:22 Fantastic news for the locals, the proposals to move the line further out to sea has been suspended due to mass public anger at the plan. A fantastic result to all the locals (include myself) who were against this stupid plan.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-54538258 Network Rail will now go back to the drawing board and put new proposals out for consultation next year. (Please move if a thread is already created) Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: REVUpminster on October 15, 2020, 10:21:20 I thought this was over engineered with too much earth moving when a simple pier system anchored to the bedrock alongside the existing track allowing any rock fall to fall on the beach.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50487955582_a9a55de666_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVrYdN)dlr (https://flic.kr/p/2jVrYdN) by Robert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/), on Flickr This is the best I could come up with. You have to imagine the road the beach and the offices the cliff face. The beach would still be there except for the piers. The existing track bed and embankment would could be cut back to allow rock fall on to the beach where it could be cleared. Complete separation from the rock face. (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50490314892_c160f4a14d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVE4yy)dlr - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/2jVE4yy) by Robert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/), on Flickr Got Picasso to knock this up. Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: southwest on October 17, 2020, 01:23:39 I thought this was over engineered with too much earth moving when a simple pier system anchored to the bedrock alongside the existing track allowing any rock fall to fall on the beach. (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50487955582_a9a55de666_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVrYdN)dlr (https://flic.kr/p/2jVrYdN) by Robert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/), on Flickr This is the best I could come up with. You have to imagine the road the beach and the offices the cliff face. The beach would still be there except for the piers. The existing track bed and embankment would could be cut back to allow rock fall on to the beach where it could be cleared. Complete separation from the rock face. (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50490314892_c160f4a14d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVE4yy)dlr - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/2jVE4yy) by Robert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/revupminster/), on Flickr Got Picasso to knock this up. It's a good idea, but from speaking to local people they want the railway line to stay where it is, The loss of Spray Point is one of the main issues along with the reduced beach. I don't see why grout couldn't be pumped into the cliff to permanently bond it together? Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: ellendune on October 17, 2020, 09:00:23 It's a good idea, but from speaking to local people they want the railway line to stay where it is, The loss of Spray Point is one of the main issues along with the reduced beach. I don't see why grout couldn't be pumped into the cliff to permanently bond it together? So what is the alternative? What are these far simpler and cheaper solutions they speak of? How would the locals feel about moving the cliffs back so they have a nice neat engineered slope or a quarried face further inland? The visual impact would be quite significant. Can't see it would be cheaper either. Edited to add note about cost Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: REVUpminster on October 17, 2020, 13:32:17 They would not lose much beach and none at all but gain beach if the coast side existing track bed was cut back and the footpath moved onto the cliff side track bed. The whole key to my version is separation of cliff and track.
I think a similar track on lower piers will have to be adopted along the Exe Valley to combat rising sea levels. Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: southwest on October 20, 2020, 14:49:36 It's a good idea, but from speaking to local people they want the railway line to stay where it is, The loss of Spray Point is one of the main issues along with the reduced beach. I don't see why grout couldn't be pumped into the cliff to permanently bond it together? So what is the alternative? What are these far simpler and cheaper solutions they speak of? How would the locals feel about moving the cliffs back so they have a nice neat engineered slope or a quarried face further inland? The visual impact would be quite significant. Can't see it would be cheaper either. Edited to add note about cost As I said pump grout(liquid concrete) into the cliff face, the same technique has been used to shore up parts of London during the Underground & Crossrail constructions. Title: Re: Teignmouth rail development suspended Post by: ellendune on October 20, 2020, 18:45:38 As I said pump grout(liquid concrete) into the cliff face, the same technique has been used to shore up parts of London during the Underground & Crossrail constructions. Although I am a Civil Engineer geotechnics is not my specialism and I have not studied the geology of the area. That said there is a huge difference between compensation grouting to prevent building subsidence during tunnelling, and grouting to stabilise embankment slopes. They are very different solution to a very different problem. If the cliffs could be stabilised by grout treatment then I am sure that would have at least been an option. I am not aware that such a solution possible, Is anyone with more specialist expertise and local knowledge able to comment? My understanding is the the proposed stabilisation solution is a combination of rock bolting and a buttress at foot of the cliff. Unfortunately, the buttress requires some space and so requires the railway to be moved. An alternative would be to moved the cliff back and do the same; or even batter the cliff back to a more stable slope. These would require land take at the top of the cliff. What is there? It would also require an extended closure and would be very expensive. I look forward to hearing what NR propose next year. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |