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Title: Weymouth Line - service issues (merged posts) Post by: RA on April 15, 2018, 10:59:44 Bit of a mess up on the Weymouth route today. The Network Rail Weekly Operating Notice states that Yeovil Pen Mill is within an engineering possession and that Rail Replacement Road Transport is required from Castle Cary for stations to Weymouth. Unfortunately, the trains are shown as running through to Yeovil Pen Mill with road transport forwards from there. Confirmed that Weymouth route trains will be terminating at and starting from Castle Cary for the remainder of today.
Title: Re: Weymouth Line Alterations Sunday 15th April. Post by: grahame on April 16, 2018, 06:16:38 Thank you for that alert, RA ... looks like the line is back open from first service this morning, with just Chetnole and Thornford stations late re-opening, and that being described as a fault on the 05:33 train from Weymouth.
Title: Re: Weymouth Line Alterations Sunday 15th April. Post by: bradshaw on April 16, 2018, 08:52:59 Plus the second down and its return working!
Title: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: grahame on May 02, 2022, 05:38:38 Quote Cancellations to services between Castle Cary and Weymouth Due to animals on the railway between Castle Cary and Weymouth all lines are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or terminated at and started back from Yeovil Pen Mill. Disruption is expected until 12:00 02/05. Customer Advice Following a train hitting several cows near Yetminster yesterday, a clean up operation is in place. Until this is complete, and we can ensure the line is not damaged, trains will be amended. Replacement road transport has been requested to operate in both directions between Weymouth and Westbury. Further details of this will be advertised when the road transport has been sourced. South Western Railway are conveying passengers between Weymouth and Southampton Central in both directions until further notice. Arrangements have been made for Great Western Railway rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys. Quote 06:42 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:06 06:42 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:06 will be cancelled. This is due to animals on the railway. Quote 06:52 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:23 06:52 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:23 will be terminated at Yeovil Pen Mill. It will no longer call at Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth. This is due to animals on the railway. Quote 07:02 Worcester Foregate Street to Weymouth due 11:00 07:02 Worcester Foregate Street to Weymouth due 11:00 will be terminated at Yeovil Pen Mill. It will no longer call at Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth. This is due to animals on the railway. Quote 08:42 Gloucester to Weymouth due 12:06 08:42 Gloucester to Weymouth due 12:06 will be delayed at Yeovil Pen Mill. This is due to animals on the railway. Quote 08:50 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:26 08:50 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:26 will be started from Yeovil Pen Mill. It will no longer call at Weymouth, Upwey, Dorchester West, Maiden Newton, Chetnole, Yetminster and Thornford. This is due to animals on the railway. Quote 11:11 Weymouth to Gloucester due 14:29 11:11 Weymouth to Gloucester due 14:29 will be started from Yeovil Pen Mill. It will no longer call at Weymouth, Upwey, Dorchester West, Maiden Newton, Chetnole, Yetminster and Thornford. This is due to animals on the railway. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: Robin Summerhill on May 02, 2022, 12:07:33 The first train to be cancelled was the 0523 from Weymouth,so clearly the aimals must have been on the line before then.
It is now 1200 and still nothing has run south of Yeovil Just exactly how long does it take to move animals off the line these days? Are they trying to put hi-viz jackets on 'em all first??? Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: WSW Frome on May 02, 2022, 12:22:31 GWR now say that several animals were hit on Sunday and the clean-up will take all of Monday. This will include a line inspection for safety. So currently no services on Monday and no bus replacement. Tickets are valid via Southampton.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: IndustryInsider on May 02, 2022, 12:25:28 Just exactly how long does it take to move animals off the line these days? Are they trying to put hi-viz jackets on 'em all first??? There's a total of 9 cows sadly killed after nightfall yesterday, 5 are on the line, and 4 right by it. The farmer that owns them tried to use his farm equipment but it wasn't up to the task. So, a RRV needs to be sourced and used and there are a limited number of staff from the company providing that who are abattoir trained apparently. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: bobm on May 02, 2022, 12:46:14 Sounds a grim job for all involved.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: JayMac on May 02, 2022, 12:50:39 Yes, a far more complex clean up than just moving a few errant cows. Daylight was needed. Specialist rail equipment and specialist enviromental health personnel, along with a trained salughterman, were also needed.
The MOM decided that earlier plan to use the farmer's JCB to remove the carcasses may have damaged the track and trackbed, which would have led to even more delay in reopening the line. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: bradshaw on May 02, 2022, 13:31:39 RTT indicates that it was the last up service that was involved. Seems to be between Chetnole and Yetminster as it left there for Westbury 3hours late.
There is an occupation crossing just south of Yetminster, was the gate open, or was it the result of damaged fencing? Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: bobm on May 02, 2022, 13:56:57 That last train is known for being "lively" bringing people back from a day out by the seaside (and in the pubs). How they endured the delay could have been interesting.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: Robin Summerhill on May 02, 2022, 14:33:03 Just exactly how long does it take to move animals off the line these days? Are they trying to put hi-viz jackets on 'em all first??? There's a total of 9 cows sadly killed after nightfall yesterday, 5 are on the line, and 4 right by it. The farmer that owns them tried to use his farm equipment but it wasn't up to the task. So, a RRV needs to be sourced and used and there are a limited number of staff from the company providing that who are abattoir trained apparently. Thanks for this - it makes what is going on far more understandable But of course the general public are apparently only being told that there are "animals on he line" and, like me initially, may think of it as a reltively trivial matter that should not take very long to sort out. Many of them are not going to enquire into the details, they will simply see what the departure boards are telling them. It would be better for railway PR if they actually made clear the full extent of the problem Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: IndustryInsider on May 02, 2022, 15:29:21 They were told rather more detail than just ‘animals on the line’, Robin. See the initial post.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: Robin Summerhill on May 02, 2022, 16:01:59 They were told rather more detail than just ‘animals on the line’, Robin. See the initial post. Yes they did. Fourth sentence/ paragraph down. I wonder how many passengers had stopped reasing before then! At least I can claim mitigation because of my bloody glaucoma... Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 02, 2022, 16:35:17 Yes they did. Fourth sentence/ paragraph down. I wonder how many passengers had stopped reasing before then! At least I can claim mitigation because of my bloody glaucoma... Well, this passenger certainly didn't get as far as reading the 'line' entry, and I don't have glaucoma. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: bobm on May 02, 2022, 17:01:51 Situation now compounded due to a points failure at Castle Cary. The 14:02 from Yeovil Pen Mill (due to have been the 13:11 from Weymouth) has been delayed by over two hours.
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: IndustryInsider on May 02, 2022, 17:04:14 How would you both present that information in a way that would please everyone?
Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: grahame on May 02, 2022, 18:52:53 Quote Delays to services between Castle Cary and Weymouth Following animals on the railway earlier today between Yeovil Pen Mill and Weymouth all lines have now reopened. Disruption is expected until 19:00 02/05. Train services between Castle Cary and Weymouth are returning to normal. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: eightonedee on May 02, 2022, 21:17:41 Quote How would you both present that information in a way that would please everyone? As the meerkats would say - "simples" Change first part from- "Cancellations to services between Castle Cary and Weymouth Due to animals on the railway between Castle Cary and Weymouth all lines are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or terminated at and started back from Yeovil Pen Mill. Disruption is expected until 12:00 02/05." to "Cancellations to services between Castle Cary and Weymouth Following a train hitting several cows near Yetminster yesterday, a clean up operation is in place. Until this is complete, and we can ensure the line is not damaged, trains will be amended. Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or terminated at and started back from Yeovil Pen Mill. Disruption is expected until 12:00 02/05." Then the key information is the first thing people will read, and understand it's not just another cow on the line, that they will pass at walking pace with a farmer holding securely on a halter after a 15 minute delay, and why the line is closed without having to spool down. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: IndustryInsider on May 02, 2022, 21:35:21 Perhaps suggest it to GWR…?
For the record, I think that is a slight improvement but hardly makes the world of difference TBH. Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: Robin Summerhill on May 02, 2022, 21:38:15 I just came back to the forum to give my views and I see I’ve been beaten to it!
My only change to 81Ds suggestion is that I think the fact that animals have been killed adds emphasis to the severity and possible longevity of the situation, and that should appear in sentence/ paragraph 2 Title: Re: Bank Holiday Monday on the Weymouth line Post by: infoman on May 03, 2022, 02:06:49 There was a road incident between Shepton Mallet and Yeovil at Wraxall on the Monday morning.
Title: Cancellations to services between Westbury and Weymouth 21/12 Post by: Timmer on December 21, 2022, 12:56:15 Quote Due to a shortage of train crew between Westbury and Weymouth fewer trains are able to run on all lines. Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:30 21/12. Customer Advice Apologies to customers travelling between Westbury and Weymouth this afternoon. Unfortunately due to a shortage of train crew caused by a combination of late notice sickness and recent industrial action, some services are having to terminate short at Westbury and Bristol Temple Meads today. Currently, the 12:34 departure of Westbury to Weymouth is cancelled. We have a confirmed coach and x2 8 seater vehicles that will be in position to run instead of the train service (your rail ticket will be valid on this). These vehicles will depart Westbury at 12:34. A reminder if travelling from an unstaffed station you may trigger one of the available help-points located on platform level, or alternatively you may contact one of our social media specialists via Twitter handle @GWRhelp for further assistance. We apologise for any inconvenience caused to your journey with us today. Replacement road transport services are conveying passengers between Westbury and Weymouth in that direction only until further notice. Arrangements have been made for Great Western Railway rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys. Title: Re: Cancellations to services between Westbury and Weymouth 21/12 Post by: bradshaw on December 21, 2022, 17:00:09 05.26 Weymouth to Filton Abbey Wood started from Westbury
06.42 Weymouth to Bristol Parkway started from Westbury 10.40 Gloucester to Weymouth cancelled beyond Westbury 16.41 Gloucester to Weymouth starting at Temple Meads, more trains needing repairs this one. 20.15 Weymouth to Bristol T M cancelled beyond Westbury, more trains needing repairs. Title: Last Weymouth-Bristol cancelled 25/06/2023 Post by: Trowres on June 26, 2023, 00:56:23 Another thread http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27614.msg335372#msg335372 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27614.msg335372#msg335372) mentioned a points failure at Taunton. From what was happening (or not), it appears that the crossover at the eastern end of the station was reversed for the 18:11 Taunton to Bristol TM to depart, and restoration to the normal position failed. Up trains were able to proceed by calling at platform 2 and using the crossover, but down trains were stuck. The first affected was 1V60 Edinburgh-Penzance that was delayed by 2 hours 10 minutes. In its rear was a light engine.
However, it appears that a common policy was followed of holding other trains at stations (on the routes from both Bristol and Westbury). So it was that westbound trains from Paddington were held at Castle Cary, Bruton, Westbury and even Pewsey. As this was happening, 2O94, the 17:48 Bristol-Weymouth became stuck at Frome at 18:48 due to the IET at Bruton. Eventually it was terminated there and ran back to Westbury. A consequence was that 2V94, the last northbound train of the day from Weymouth, was cancelled (apart from the Westbury-Bristol section). Also affected was 2V93, the 17:53 Weymouth-Bristol, which waited at Castle Cary for over an hour. Title: Re: Last Weymouth-Bristol cancelled 25/06/2023 Post by: Witham Bobby on June 26, 2023, 09:20:45 The repercussions of something going wrong on today's railway would have been unimaginable when I was a bobby. There just seems to be no capacity, in terms of rolling stock, people, or infrastructure, to cope with any sort of failure, without causing really significant disruption.
Title: Re: Last Weymouth-Bristol cancelled 25/06/2023 Post by: Timmer on June 26, 2023, 09:24:47 The repercussions of something going wrong on today's railway would have been unimaginable when I was a bobby. There just seems to be no capacity, in terms of rolling stock, people, or infrastructure, to cope with any sort of failure, without causing really significant disruption. Or any major event such as Glastonbury without other parts of the network suffering due to rolling stock and staff being needed for extra services to cope with the volume of passengers this event brings.Title: Re: Last Weymouth-Bristol cancelled 25/06/2023 Post by: bradshaw on June 26, 2023, 15:29:10 Today the 13.10 Gloucester to Weymouth cancelled. According to Journey Check due to a broken down train but RTT gives cause as incident with dangerous goods.
Title: Re: Last Weymouth-Bristol cancelled 25/06/2023 Post by: Timmer on June 26, 2023, 17:03:39 Today the 13.10 Gloucester to Weymouth cancelled. According to Journey Check due to a broken down train but RTT gives cause as incident with dangerous goods. Which has meant the 17.28 Weymouth to Bristol has been cancelled as well.Title: Bath to Weymouth - day out article in the local "paper" Post by: grahame on August 12, 2023, 12:57:10 From Somerset Live (https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/great-train-ride-bath-beach-8672383)
Quote The little train ride from Bath Spa station to Weymouth is absolute heaven. It is a small little train, two or three coaches and it takes about two hours, stopping in nice country villages along the way and with some fantastic countryside. The little train goes through villages like Freshford, Bradford on Avon, Yeovil, Westbury, and you have to put your hand out if you want the train to stop in some places. There are about 16 stops in the two hours but it is such a gentle, relaxing journey you don't mind. And there is a regular service. A good one to get is the 10.03am from Bath Spa, it gets to Weymouth at 12.06pm, perfect, just in time for lunch. Or if you want to go earlier you can get the 9am which gets in around 11am. The station in Weymouth is about two minutes from the beach, you are right there, and it is a beautiful bay. Title: Re: Bath to Weymouth - day out article in the local "paper" Post by: Bmblbzzz on August 12, 2023, 14:36:28 Tell me again – is it a big train?
Title: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 06:48:18 Short forms to Weymouth
Quote 06:50 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:27 Facilities on the 06:50 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:27. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Quote 06:55 Cheltenham Spa to Weymouth due 10:32 Facilities on the 06:55 Cheltenham Spa to Weymouth due 10:32. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Quote 13:10 Gloucester to Weymouth due 16:27 Facilities on the 13:10 Gloucester to Weymouth due 16:27. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Return trains at 09:30, 11:30 and 17:35 are also 2 carriages long. Weather wise, it's scheduled to be a dry and mainly sunny day in Weymouth, with a pleasant top temperature of 21 degrees C. It's the second Saturday of the summer term school break. Shouldn't more services be running by this time of year? Are 2 car trains going to be adequate? Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Mark A on June 01, 2024, 08:09:55 Operating a year-round visitor attraction but with a seasonal bump we were very aware that if we didn't make provision ahead of the bump, the bump itself tended to fizzle. That June railway timetable change feels way to late to be making changes to meet seasonal demand. Was it only last Sunday that the morning through train from Bristol was cancelled at short notice?
Bristol to Weymouth's massively capacity constrained and people hoping to travel are somewhat battered by current experiences, and in some cases by recollections of the timetable antics that were deployed in the nineties to kill the demand for day trip traffic as the rolling stock expired of old age. Mark Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Timmer on June 01, 2024, 08:14:01 Shouldn't more services be running by this time of year? Are 2 car trains going to be adequate? Yes they should by now. The second Saturday of June for the extra summer services isn’t really acceptable IMHO. This has meant both Saturdays of the school half term holiday have not had an enhanced summer Saturday service.No, 2 car trains wouldn’t be anywhere near adequate today, especially by the time the train reaches Yeovil. 3 car trains would be pretty loaded too. As the 2 car trains are on the two earlier services of the day it might be okay. They need to see if they can strengthen the return 17:35 service or provide a replacement bus service as I expect Weymouth will be very busy today given the forecast. A 2 car train will mean passengers being left behind otherwise. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bobm on June 01, 2024, 08:20:46 I can’t remember why the timetable change was delayed this year.
Meanwhile there’s a Weymouth to Gloucester service that’s come to an unscheduled halt outside Yeovil Pen Mill. Now stranded with 15 passengers on board. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bobm on June 01, 2024, 08:26:54 Perhaps this is a sacrifice to provide more capacity on a Weymouth service?
Quote Facilities on the 08:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central due 11:45. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central. Additional Facilities Information Customers travelling beyond Bristol Temple Meads should travel in Carriages A, B or C. Carriages D and E will be detached at Bristol Temple Meads. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 08:29:00 I can’t remember why the timetable change was delayed this year. Meanwhile there’s a Weymouth to Gloucester service that’s come to an unscheduled halt outside Yeovil Pen Mill. Now stranded with 15 passengers on board. "To co-ordinate with changes in Europe" was what I heard. My understanding is that the delay was planned a very long time ago and is no longer really relevant ... but once it became irrelevant it was to late to change back. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 08:29:59 Perhaps this is a sacrifice to provide more capacity on a Weymouth service? Quote Facilities on the 08:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central due 11:45. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 between Bristol Temple Meads and Cardiff Central. Additional Facilities Information Customers travelling beyond Bristol Temple Meads should travel in Carriages A, B or C. Carriages D and E will be detached at Bristol Temple Meads. Or even to provide a Weymouth service at all! Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bradshaw on June 01, 2024, 08:59:43 Journey check stating
Due to trespassers on the railway between Weymouth and Westbury some lines are blocked. Delaying both up and down services, the 0638 from Weymouth now 83+ minutes late as is the 06.50 from Westbury Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 09:07:49 Bristol to Weymouth's massively capacity constrained and people hoping to travel are somewhat battered by current experiences, and in some cases by recollections of the timetable antics that were deployed in the nineties to kill the demand for day trip traffic as the rolling stock expired of old age. Indeed. One has to wonder if the people who plan the train services actually want people to use them - whether the seasonallity is a nuisance that they would prefer to be without ... "It would be so much more operationally and cost convenient if the Westbury to Weymouth ran all day, every day, every 2 hours with two trains of 2 carriages each passing each other at Yeovil Pen Mill." Income, customer confidence, the business brought to Weymouth, goodwill, encouraging people to travel in a more carbon friendly way, would all be lost - but who cares in a system which is cost of operation driven to the apparent exclusion of anything else, including the fares received to pay for it? For the absence of doubt, I am not advocating a change to this proposed service. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Timmer on June 01, 2024, 10:34:21 Just to set the record straight, GWR have ran an extra service to and from Weymouth last Saturday and today. The 08:09 Gloucester to Frome has continued to Weymouth and there is an additional service from Weymouth to Bristol at 18:45. That will reduce the demand for the 2 car 17:35 later today, so no need for a replacement bus!
So fair play to GWR, they have provided extra trains over the two Saturdays that straddle the half term break. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 10:41:18 Just to set the record straight, GWR have ran an extra service to and from Weymouth last Saturday and today. The 08:09 Gloucester to Frome has continued to Weymouth and there is an additional service from Weymouth to Bristol at 18:45. That will reduce the demand for the 2 car 17:35 later today, so no need for a replacement bus! So fair play to GWR, they have provided extra trains over the two Saturdays that straddle the half term break. Ah - thanks. I hadn't spotted that in the publicity; will be very interesting to hear about (relative) loadings. EDIT to add - bit late in the day to let people know (it's gone already!) but, yes, my local journey planner gave me the following - mind you, I had to know to look!! Was there any extra publicity in the towns on the route of that useful extra train? (http://www.wellho.net/pix/mkmwey20240602.jpg) Much better from next Saturday with a through train, 2 hour journeys, earlier arrival and later return. (http://www.wellho.net/pix/mkmwey20240608.jpg) Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bradshaw on June 01, 2024, 11:42:01 Following on from Graeme’s earlier comments
Journey Check just now Quote . 09:30 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:57 09:30 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:57 will no longer call at Trowbridge, Bradford-On-Avon, Oldfield Park and Keynsham. It has been previously delayed but is now 40 minutes late from Maiden Newton. This is due to overcrowding as this train has fewer coaches than normal. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Service full and standing from Yeovil Pen Mill. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bobm on June 01, 2024, 12:43:22 ..and now a Gloucester to Weymouth service has had to be swapped over to a new unit at Bristol Temple Meads due to vandalism on the original train.
Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Timmer on June 01, 2024, 12:46:00 Following on from Graeme’s earlier comments Indeed, the Heart of Wessex line isn’t just about those heading for a day out at the seaside. Plenty of traffic in the other direction too. I suppose it is good to see that two car trains aren’t even enough for trains that aren’t peak time seaside trains.Journey Check just now Quote . 09:30 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:57 09:30 Weymouth to Gloucester due 12:57 will no longer call at Trowbridge, Bradford-On-Avon, Oldfield Park and Keynsham. It has been previously delayed but is now 40 minutes late from Maiden Newton. This is due to overcrowding as this train has fewer coaches than normal. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Service full and standing from Yeovil Pen Mill. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Timmer on June 01, 2024, 13:04:15 ..and now a Gloucester to Weymouth service has had to be swapped over to a new unit at Bristol Temple Meads due to vandalism on the original train. Looking at RTT, is it the 13:10 Gloucester to Weymouth service? It looks like there is a set swap at Bristol from 166221 to 166217?This service then forms the 17:35 from Weymouth, and, being a class 166 means 3 carriages :) Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bobm on June 01, 2024, 13:13:22 That's the one. 166221 off to St Philips Marsh for repairs.
Also means a cancelled return trip between Temple Meads and Filton Abbey Wood later. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Timmer on June 01, 2024, 13:43:26 That's the one. 166221 off to St Philips Marsh for repairs. Along with this:Also means a cancelled return trip between Temple Meads and Filton Abbey Wood later. Quote 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads. It will no longer call at Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Bath Spa, Freshford, Bradford-On-Avon, Trowbridge, Westbury, Frome, Bruton, Castle Cary, Yeovil Pen Mill, Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth. This is due to vandalism on a train earlier today. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. It’s easy to be critical of the railways when they cancel a service but when it’s caused by a member(s) of the public, with the fleet so stretched; sometimes there just is no choice but to cancel services. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: Wizard on June 01, 2024, 15:35:36 GWR don’t have enough trains. They’ve never had enough trains since 2007, and it’s unlikely that they ever will have enough trains. That’s just not how it works.
Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: bobm on June 01, 2024, 15:41:31 That's the one. 166221 off to St Philips Marsh for repairs. Along with this:Also means a cancelled return trip between Temple Meads and Filton Abbey Wood later. Quote 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads. It will no longer call at Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Bath Spa, Freshford, Bradford-On-Avon, Trowbridge, Westbury, Frome, Bruton, Castle Cary, Yeovil Pen Mill, Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth. This is due to vandalism on a train earlier today. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. It’s easy to be critical of the railways when they cancel a service but when it’s caused by a member(s) of the public, with the fleet so stretched; sometimes there just is no choice but to cancel services. The incoming unit from Gloucester was used to go back on the Severn Beach line - where the substitute unit for the earlier service was found from. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 17:20:19 GWR don’t have enough trains. They’ve never had enough trains since 2007, and it’s unlikely that they ever will have enough trains. That’s just not how it works. I would agree they don't have enough trains. "That’s just not how it works." - why not? Why not stand up and run a reliable, customer-loved business. Problem is - perhaps Virgin did that, stood up for what they believed in, and lost the franchises as the cost of doing so? Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: broadgage on June 01, 2024, 20:36:43 GWR don’t have enough trains. They’ve never had enough trains since 2007, and it’s unlikely that they ever will have enough trains. That’s just not how it works. ISTR that the wonderful new IETs were going to solve the problem, not only on the routes so served, but also by freeing up loads of Turbos and and other existing trains for use elsewhere on the network. In fact of course large numbers of IET services are 5 car instead of an 8 car HST Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: IndustryInsider on June 01, 2024, 21:33:25 In fact of course large numbers of IET services are 5 car instead of an 8 car HST Of course large numbers of 7/8 car HST’s are now in the hands of 9/10 car IET’s. Title: Re: Summer Saturdays to Weymouth - adequate formations? Post by: grahame on June 01, 2024, 21:47:38 In fact of course large numbers of IET services are 5 car instead of an 8 car HST Of course large numbers of 7/8 car HST’s are now in the hands of 9/10 car IET’s. It's a real old mix ... the one car services though Melksham are up to 2 or 3 ... but then the 5 and 6 car trains off Weymouth on warm Saturdays a decade ago are down to 2 or if we're lucky 3 today. It may surprise readers here as I started this thread, but actually the far more important thing is a year round (reliable) service that's right for every day of 363 and not just 12 in the summer. It is important - and important worth agitating for - to make sure those 12 busiest days are right for marketing reasons. Perhaps the could bring a castle up for those days - I'm sure we could fill it! Title: 09:30 Bristol to Weymouth 30/06/24 Post by: Mark A on June 30, 2024, 12:22:14 Rather than Weymouth, after some very late running that set in after Freshford, the train has terminated at Frome. Hoping the passengers for Weymouth were put down at Westbury 'cos despite appearances Frome's rather short of facilities. (Loos for a start...)
Mark https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C63626/2024-06-30/detailed (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C63626/2024-06-30/detailed) Title: Re: 09:30 Bristol to Weymouth 30/06/24 Post by: bradshaw on June 30, 2024, 13:45:49 Reading RTT it seems to have returned to Westbury.
Now journey check has this Quote 11:42 Swindon to Weymouth due 14:01 will be delayed at Westbury. This is due to a fault on this train. Screenshot of today so far on the Weymouth line attached below Yet to be added is the cancellation of the 2011 Weymouth to Bristol Title: Re: 09:30 Bristol to Weymouth 30/06/24 Post by: grahame on June 30, 2024, 15:06:02 Screenshot of today so far on the Weymouth line attached below Looks like timings at Maiden Newton. Oops. I will grab and post an update at the end of the day Title: Re: 09:30 Bristol to Weymouth 30/06/24 Post by: bradshaw on June 30, 2024, 16:16:10 That is right, I lived there for some years before moving to the other end of the branch. The screenshot at Maiden Newton is useful as it will only show GWR trains.
Title: Heart of Wessex Line Cancellations 27/07 Post by: Timmer on July 27, 2024, 07:38:33 Morning ‘peak’ services from Bristol and Bath down to Weymouth canned this morning meaning if you don’t make the train leaving Bristol at 08:03, it will be the long way round via Southampton to get to Weymouth.
08:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 11:35 09:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 12:27 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 Title: Re: Heart of Wessex Line Cancellations 27/07 Post by: grahame on July 27, 2024, 07:54:57 Morning ‘peak’ services from Bristol and Bath down to Weymouth canned this morning meaning if you don’t make the train leaving Bristol at 08:03, it will be the long way round via Southampton to get to Weymouth. 08:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 11:35 09:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 12:27 15:09 Gloucester to Weymouth due 18:27 The 08:45 Swindon to Weymouth IS still running - which has a slightly later connection at Westbury if you miss the 08:03 from Bristol. The return run to Swindon is canned - it will be interesting to see how GWR handle that ... Title: Re: Heart of Wessex Line Cancellations 27/07 Post by: Timmer on July 27, 2024, 08:03:10 I just think this is very disappointing for those hoping to travel by train for a day out in Weymouth today that GWR have canned the two trains that the overwhelming majority would have chosen to travel on.
Title: Re: Heart of Wessex Line Cancellations 27/07 Post by: froome on July 27, 2024, 08:52:31 I know that the 17.03 from Temple Meads to Weymouth was cancelled yesterday. I have no idea if all other services ran. I was on the 16.48 service to Warminster which didn't leave until about 17.17, even though it was waiting on the platform well before its scheduled departure time. All very frustrating.
Title: Class 159 via Maiden Newton this evening - 21/9/2024 Post by: bradshaw on September 21, 2024, 12:16:15 Class 159 booked ecs at 40 mph from Salisbury to Bournemouth via Maiden Newton this evening https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:09645/2024-09-21/detailed Title: Re: Class 159 via Maiden Newton this evening - 21/9/2024 Post by: PhilWakely on September 22, 2024, 08:12:32 Make that 'SWR Class 158 via Maiden Newton.......' ;)
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