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Title: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 24, 2018, 16:57:07
From The Evening Standard (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/qantas-airways-flight-qf9-live-airline-set-to-make-history-with-first-direct-flight-from-australia-a3798351.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1521901245):

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Qantas Airways  is set to make history with the first ever non-stop flight from Australia to the UK.

The QF9 flight carrying 200 passengers took off from Perth at 7pm local time on Saturday (11am GMT) and is due to land in London at 5am GMT on Sunday.

The airline is using the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner for the 17 hour flight which will cover 9,009-mile over the course of the journey.

Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce, one of the passengers on the inaugural flight, described it as a major milestone for Australia as well as global aviation.

What are the longest (and shortest) GWR runs?


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: LiskeardRich on March 24, 2018, 16:59:01
Devonport to Dockyard has to be a contender for closest stops


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: tomL on March 24, 2018, 17:13:34
Paddington to Exeter St. Davids?


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: PhilWakely on March 24, 2018, 17:17:55
I believe one of the PNZ-PAD services yesterday (23/03/18), severely delayed by a poorly tamper, ran non-stop from Plymouth to Paddington.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 24, 2018, 18:17:26
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... non-stop from Plymouth to Paddington.

That will no doubt bring renewed demands from business leaders in Plymouth for such a service to become a permanent feature of the timetable.  :P



Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 24, 2018, 19:01:46
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... non-stop from Plymouth to Paddington.

That will no doubt bring renewed demands from business leaders in Plymouth for such a service to become a permanent feature of the timetable.  :P

Should probably stop halfway for a crew change / operational reasons.   That's Bruton ...


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 24, 2018, 19:07:09
Devonport to Dockyard has to be a contender for closest stops

37 chains. Exactly the same chainage as Clifton Down to Redland. You'd need to drill down to yardage to find the shorter of the two.

However, the shortest distance between two GWR stations is that between St Budeaux Ferry Road and St Budeaux Victoria Road. On foot of course. Between 4 and 7 chains measured from mid platform at each station. Distance depending which side of Ferry Road station you measure from.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: martyjon on March 24, 2018, 19:20:12
Devonport to Dockyard has to be a contender for closest stops

37 chains. Exactly the same chainage as Clifton Down to Redland. You'd need to drill down to yardage to find the shorter of the two.

How does Lawrence Hill to Stapleton Road fit into the distance between stops stakes ?


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 24, 2018, 19:33:14
How does Lawrence Hill to Stapleton Road fit into the distance between stops stakes ?

46 chains.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 26, 2018, 07:39:25
However, the shortest distance between two GWR stations is that between St Budeaux Ferry Road and St Budeaux Victoria Road. On foot of course. Between 4 and 7 chains measured from mid platform at each station. Distance depending which side of Ferry Road station you measure from.

As a passenger focused forum ;) - can you tell us the distance between the station entrances?


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 26, 2018, 08:39:07
Ferry Road has two entrances. One to the up platform and one to the down. The shorter distance, entrance to entrance (they are almost directly opposite), from Ferry Road up side entrance to Victoria Road entrance is, I'd guess, no more 35ft or just over half a chain. That being the road width and the two pavements.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: SandTEngineer on March 26, 2018, 14:23:14
Ferry Road has two entrances. One to the up platform and one to the down. The shorter distance, entrance to entrance (they are almost directly opposite), from Ferry Road up side entrance to Victoria Road entrance is, I'd guess, no more 35ft or just over half a chain. That being the road width and the two pavements.
I'll get my measuring wheel out and pop out and measure it if you want :D

Seriously though (as I thought the question was by train), the two train services that run between those stations both travel via Plymouth station so a lot longer distance than 35 feet ::)


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: chuffed on March 26, 2018, 17:20:06
I'll get my measuring wheel out and pop out and measure it if you want

As long as it doesn't frighten the horses or have the ladies reaching for their hankies and smelling salts, it should be OK !  ;D


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 26, 2018, 17:36:32
I'll get my measuring wheel out and pop out and measure it if you want :D

I'll get my measuring wheel out and pop out and measure it if you want

Was that supposed to be in [ quote ] to [ /quote ] tags, or are we being threatened with a wheel measurer's convention in St Budeaux?      Gentlemen - thank you, but my original line of questioning was somewhat lighthearted;  measure by all means, but ahead of time be aware it is out of pure curiosity.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: SandTEngineer on March 26, 2018, 19:24:33
My attempt at a lighthearted response obviously backfired there....... :P


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: froome on March 27, 2018, 10:26:18
At a guess, I would have thought the longest line without a station where there are regular GWR routes would be Bristol Parkway to Swindon.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: ellendune on March 27, 2018, 19:35:20
At a guess, I would have thought the longest line without a station where there are regular GWR routes would be Bristol Parkway to Swindon.

I would have thought Swindon to Didcot must be a close second. 


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 27, 2018, 19:47:07
Bristol Parkway - Swindon 34m 30ch
Swindon - Didcot Parkway 24m 13ch

Neither though is the longest run between two GWR served stations (with no intermediate station) on the same line...


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: rogerw on March 27, 2018, 19:50:43
Castle Cary to Taunton at 27 mi 39 ch comes in second with Totnes to Plymouth coming in fourth at 23 mi 9 ch


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 27, 2018, 19:52:41
Castle Cary to Taunton at 27 mi 39 ch comes in second with Totnes to Plymouth coming in fourth at 23 mi 9 ch

Totnes to Plymouth does have an intermediate station though.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: rogerw on March 27, 2018, 22:05:44
Curses. Forgot about Ivybridge  >:(


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 27, 2018, 22:36:09
I do sympathise ... it's so easy to forget about Ivybridge.  :P

But, to be fair, Ivybridge (as it is now) is very much a compromise solution to the closure of the much more useful station at the original site: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivybridge_railway_station

 ::)


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 28, 2018, 11:31:28
Bristol Parkway - Swindon 34m 30ch
Swindon - Didcot Parkway 24m 13ch

Neither though is the longest run between two GWR served stations (with no intermediate station) on the same line...

Anyone?   :)


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: ChrisB on March 28, 2018, 11:34:23
The way you worded your statement, this probably involves the Westbury avoiding line....


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 28, 2018, 11:59:42
Bristol Parkway - Swindon 34m 30ch
Swindon - Didcot Parkway 24m 13ch

Neither though is the longest run between two GWR served stations (with no intermediate station) on the same line...

Anyone?   :)

The way you worded your statement, this probably involves the Westbury avoiding line....

I wonder what the distance is from Pewsey to Bruton is.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: ray951 on March 28, 2018, 12:04:10
Bristol Parkway - Swindon 34m 30ch
Swindon - Didcot Parkway 24m 13ch

Neither though is the longest run between two GWR served stations (with no intermediate station) on the same line...

Anyone?   :)

The way you worded your statement, this probably involves the Westbury avoiding line....

I wonder what the distance is from Pewsey to Bruton is.

36m 32ch apparently.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: JayMac on March 28, 2018, 16:09:02
That is the one!

Now, all that's needed is a direct service between the two to tap the latent market for travel between Bruton and Pewsey.  :P


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: ellendune on March 28, 2018, 16:46:08
That is the one!

Now, all that's needed is a direct service between the two to tap the latent market for travel between Bruton and Pewsey.  :P

Slightly artificial since the Westbury avoiding line is really only a glorified through line that happens to by-pass the station.


Title: Re: How far can you go ... without a stop?
Post by: grahame on March 28, 2018, 17:12:31
That is the one!

Now, all that's needed is a direct service between the two to tap the latent market for travel between Bruton and Pewsey.  :P

The flows not catered for from Pewsey are for Trowbridge, Bath and Bristol ... but we'll see what the 6th April meeting raises.  There are, of course, direct services from Bristol and Trowbridge to Pewsey already, but their use isn't particularly great.



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