Title: How should customers be addressed? Post by: grahame on January 02, 2018, 16:01:29 From The BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42542640)
Quote Virgin Trains has "apologised unreservedly" for a tweet which some social media users described as "sexist". In response to a passenger complaint about being referred to as "honey", the official Virgin Trains East Coast Twitter account asked if she would "prefer 'pet' or 'love' next time". The passenger, Emily Lucinda Cole, 27, said she was "stunned" by the response. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: ChrisB on January 02, 2018, 16:06:34 Totally wrong response, but it's not sexist. oop north, men get called both those.....
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: grahame on January 02, 2018, 16:10:50 Totally wrong response, but it's not sexist. oop north, men get called both those..... I know, ducks! but some people are just so sensitive! Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: SandTEngineer on January 02, 2018, 18:24:47 ..I've been called 'My Luvver' by several guards over the years down here in the far Southwest... ::) ;D
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: TaplowGreen on January 02, 2018, 19:50:31 "Sir" and "Madam" is how our staff address customers unless & until they offer their names....we've never had any complaints.
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: IndustryInsider on January 02, 2018, 20:01:45 I'm fine with being addressed as 'Sir' though only once or twice. I hate it when it's 'Sir' this and 'Sir' that. I'm also quite happy with mate, pal or bud to be honest!
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: JayMac on January 02, 2018, 20:07:57 I agree with you there TG. Sir and Madam is what it should be. Until and unless a name is given. And if a customer says they'd like to be addressed by title and surname then that's what staff should do. That's how I was taught in the hospitality trade.
Terms of endearment should be avoided in staff/customer interactions. The reason they should be avoided is because some people do find them sexist or inappropriate. Whilst certain terms may be common parlance in certain geographical areas, the person you are addressing may not be from that area. I don't like being called 'mate' by bar staff for example. Just a few posts show differing opinions. That's why it's always best when dealing with customers to stick to Sir and Madam. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: bobm on January 02, 2018, 20:29:16 My pet hate is when I am out with my (female) partner and we are addressed as “guys”.
I’m also not keen with being told to like my meal as the server places the dish in front of me with the command “Enjoy!”. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: lordgoata on January 02, 2018, 21:55:30 You can call me whatever you like if it means the train will be on time, formed of all scheduled carriages and I will get a seat!
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 02, 2018, 22:14:22 In my day job, delivering groceries, we address all customers by their title and surname - unless they ask us otherwise.
We van drivers are all known by our first names - the customer is sent a text message telling them when 'Chris from Nailsea' will arrive, for example. ;) Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: JayMac on January 02, 2018, 22:24:50 'Chris from Nailsea' Is that what's on your name badge? :P I often see a former teacher of mine in Wetherspoons in Taunton, of whom I can't get out of the habit of calling 'Sir'. Despite appearances to the contrary, I wasn't dragged up and did learn manners and respect! And no, teaching me didn't drive him to drink! He tells me every time to call him by his given name. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: rower40 on January 03, 2018, 15:02:10 In 1st Class, I've been addressed by name "Mr <rower40>" by a Senior Conductor who I had never met before, after he had closely studied my pass/photocard.
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: JayMac on January 03, 2018, 15:13:51 You can call me whatever you like if it means the train will be on time, formed of all scheduled carriages and I will get a seat! OK, pal. ;) Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: johnneyw on January 03, 2018, 22:55:36 In 1st Class, I've been addressed by name "Mr <rower40>" by a Senior Conductor who I had never met before, after he had closely studied my pass/photocard. Not quite GWR but due to the foibles inherent with electronic direct marketing mail, my brother whose initials are MC has received a letter to Mr McWalker. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: LiskeardRich on January 03, 2018, 23:33:47 Varies from customer to customer to avoid coming across robotic. A quick assessment on how they address me,
If they address me as ‘mate’ etc I can flex to be a little less formal. An older customer always mr or Mrs <insert surname>. Although some of my regular older customers insist on me addressing them as their given first name. Some I’m on first name terms with, and know about their family and vice versa. I’m guessing ChrisFromNailsea will have the same experience, but a sad sign of the current times that is and the postman are the only people some of our older customers see from week to week. We can log a ‘customer requires assistance’ which gives the driver 20-30 mins each future visit to that customer. Only today I delivered to a 80+ man who I’m on first name terms with, his family up north do his ordering for him, and he told me today he hadn’t seen anyone since I delivered to him last Wednesday as he hadn’t been out due to the bad weather. We had a good chat whilst I helped him put stuff away. It gives me great job satisfaction that I’ve been social company for that man, but it makes me sad this is a reflection of 2018 Britain where the grocery delivery person is the only person an elderly person has seen for a week. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 04, 2018, 00:29:54 I’m guessing ChrisFromNailsea will have the same ... ... experience. Yes, I have indeed. ;) For the benefit of our wider readership*, who may not be aware of the significance of those comments, I should perhaps explain here that Coffee Shop forum member richwarwicker and I are, in our day jobs, both grocery delivery van drivers in the South West of England - albeit for different employers. * Those of our registered members who have not yet posted a few times, sufficient to reach our 'frequent posters' level, and those who have not yet registered at all - please do, it is free, and easy to do. ;) Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: JayMac on January 04, 2018, 00:46:27 I like Sainsbury's. It keeps the riff-raff out of Waitrose. - Alan Coren
And let's not forget, Waitrose exists to keep the middle classes out of Fortnum & Mason. - possibly Humphrey Lyttleton. ;D Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 04, 2018, 00:50:54 More tired stereotyping. ::) :P :-X
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: plymothian on January 04, 2018, 10:04:21 "Sir" and "Madam" are out now as they are gender binary.
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: 1st fan on January 04, 2018, 10:52:24 In my day job, delivering groceries, we address all customers by their title and surname - unless they ask us otherwise. We van drivers are all known by our first names - the customer is sent a text message telling them when 'Chris from Nailsea' will arrive, for example. ;) I do likewise in my job (I'm not a delivery driver), any customers/clients are referred to by title and surname. I do very occasionally get someone who says please call me by my first name instead. It may sound odd but I often don't feel comfortable doing that. I've been called all sorts of things in my time from the [lovely] to the [unprintable]. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: onthecushions on January 04, 2018, 11:52:38 I prefer to be addressed as, "Young Man". bliss... OTC Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Andy on January 04, 2018, 12:26:26 Many years ago, in M&S Falmouth, I witnessed a male holiday-maker from the home counties (judging by the accent) enquiring about new trousers. The female assistant, a proper Cornish maid, responded with the question, "what size, cock?"
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: chuffed on January 04, 2018, 12:46:42 Many years ago, in M&S Falmouth, I witnessed a male holiday make from the home counties (judging by the accent) enquiring about new trousers. The female assistant, a proper Cornish maid, responded with the question, "what size, cock?" I am sure he added a couple of inches on, just for good measure. Edit note: Quote marks corrected, purely for clarity. CfN. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Red Squirrel on January 04, 2018, 12:47:54 "Skip" suffices in all circumstances, doesn't it?
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: LiskeardRich on January 04, 2018, 16:09:59 Many years ago, in M&S Falmouth, I witnessed a male holiday make from the home counties (judging by the accent) enquiring about new trousers. The female assistant, a proper Cornish maid, responded with the question, "what size, cock?" My gran worked in Various falmouth shops in the 60s, 70s and 80s. I wasn’t born then but remember as always addressing everyone as ‘Alright my cock’. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Andy on January 05, 2018, 14:48:19 Many years ago, in M&S Falmouth, I witnessed a male holiday make from the home counties (judging by the accent) enquiring about new trousers. The female assistant, a proper Cornish maid, responded with the question, "what size, cock?" My gran worked in Various falmouth shops in the 60s, 70s and 80s. I wasn’t born then but remember as always addressing everyone as ‘Alright my cock’. In my view, any one of them, when said with a smile and in a kind tone, is more personal and welcoming than "Sir." Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: froome on January 05, 2018, 17:03:54 I prefer to be addressed as, "Young Man". bliss... OTC I have been quite a few times, normally by people who are younger than me (I'm 65). It does make your day. Like Andy I really dislike anyone calling me Sir. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: stuving on January 05, 2018, 18:23:19 I prefer to be addressed as, "Young Man". bliss... OTC I have been quite a few times, normally by people who are younger than me (I'm 65). It does make your day. i'd agree with that, though it hasn't happened for a while. But there is a danger - that you've just turned you irony detector right down to "American". Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 05, 2018, 21:48:58 'Chris from Nailsea' Is that what's on your name badge? :P It is on the one I've personalised ... ;D Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: TonyK on January 05, 2018, 23:38:50 I agree with you there TG. Sir and Madam is what it should be. Until and unless a name is given. And if a customer says they'd like to be addressed by title and surname then that's what staff should do. That's how I was taught in the hospitality trade. Similar in my former line of work. The rules of engagement prescribed a "friendly but not familiar" approach, which I took as meaning title and name when known, Sir or Madam otherwise. My visiting cards and all letters I sent out had my abbreviated forename and surname, so I didn't mind being called that, although I found most people would stick to Mr FT, N! face to face. I was called quite a few other things, some quite amusing. Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: chuffed on January 06, 2018, 09:14:24 In the schools I taught at, it was usually ''Sir'. But all lady members of staff from the Head Teacher to the humblest dinner lady answered to 'Miss! Miss!' rising in tone and volume. I always remember the poor lady who had the surname Hitt, but I was suppose it was better than having Conceive, Givings or Apprehension as your surname!
Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: bobm on January 06, 2018, 09:22:41 I always remember the poor lady who had the surname Hitt, but I was suppose it was better than having Conceive, Givings or Apprehension as your surname! There are plenty more in that vein if you watch the opening cartoons of the film Carry on Girls which was on television a few times over the festive period.... Conduct Represent Stake Fortune Used etc.... Title: Re: How should customers be addressed? Post by: LiskeardRich on January 06, 2018, 10:01:35 A lot of ladies I know really dislike being addressed as madam.
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