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OpenTrainTimes is showing a new Saturday service on the Cotswold Line from 6th January - the 12.22 from Paddington to Oxford is extended to Moreton-in-Marsh, and then returns as a 14.50 departure. Fills a two-hour hole in the timetable. HST timings, but who knows if it'll be an HST or an IET...

The first IEP diagram is currently planned to come to the Cotswold line effective 02nd January 2018. See separate thread.

Dave

Hello all,

GWR have said on their website for a while now that, starting 02nd January, they hope to be running more of their new IEP (Class 800) trains. According to a site called RealTimeTrains there is a new diagram starting from that date which will see the following trains along the Cotswold line run by these new trains. From what I can tell this will include the following on Mondays to Fridays:

0547 London Paddington - Worcester Foregate Street
0825 Worcester Foregate Street - London Paddington
1122 London Paddington - Worcester Foregate Street
1355 Worcester Foregate Street - London Paddington
1652 London Paddington - Oxford
1831 Oxford - London Paddington
1952 London Paddington - Oxford

That is as far as I can trace the diagram at present: these, along with anything else that gets added to the list, will be the only IEP diagrams on the Cotswold line until they add the next ones.

HTIOI,
Dave

IET.

Procure, design, build = IEP. Actual trains on the Greater Western = IETs.  ;)



Mods. One for the existing IET Diagrams thread?

Yup. I'd go along with that statement ;)

Can't really disagree with that, can you? Covers all bases!

5W14 is also penciled in as an 800. This would lead to the following also being an IET if that is in fact the case:
 
06:52 Paddington to Gt Malvern
09:54 Gt Malvern to Paddington
12:50 Paddington to Oxford
15:01 Oxford to Paddington
16:22 Paddington to Gt Malvern
19:42 Gt Malvern to Paddington

Yes indeed. I noticed that this evening. I think I will be delaying my return to work by a day in order to go get some photos if the weather looks reasonable: will probably head to Moreton-in-Marsh for them: nice mix of old and new involving IETs and semaphore signals.

Dave

Quick update on this one. RealTimeTrains also seems to suggest that there may be a few other Class 800 workings up the Cotswold line from 02nd January in addition to the ones already mentioned above. I will not post them here for now though as that could change: RTT appears to suggest that the diagrams would involve dividing and joining of Class 800s at London Paddington but I have heard elsewhere to "forget the attaching/detaching at the moment. Currently not happening." Unsure why.

Dave

Were the five coaches detached to be shunted to wait for the same set coming back, attached to a different returning set, or sent on to Cardiff?

Weekday booked HSTs along the Cotswold Line have now finished, presumably weekends too.  So all services now 800/2s with five remaining Turbo operated services daily.

THere are still HST timings left on REalTimeTrains in March, along side IETs....so may not be.

Those timings are just that, timings, doesn’t mean that is the traction that is allocated.  Indeed, all IET services are running to HST timings at the moment, in fact a couple are running to Turbo timings!

So why leave HSTs in RealTimeTrains then?

Because those are the timings the timetable was worked out from, so they will not change until the new timetable starts in ... whenever. Though parts of the timetable can be tweaked at any half-year, this would make more sense as part of the major retiming (which after all has been prepared).

GWR expect their new timetable in December 2019, not January 2020.

UI thought there was a thread on this?....

GWR confirmed that the final HST booked to run is

Didn't think much of 'em when they arrived into service back in the 1970s.  Although they didn't arrive on the Worcester and Hereford services until a bit later.

I really didn't like that they were displacing the D1000s, and regretted also that the 50 xxxs were on their way out, too.

But over the years I've come to appreciate the work done by these machines.  I don't suppose the designers had the start/stop nature of the Worcester and Hereford route services in mind; they are designed to be more greyhound than carthorse.

The plastic that comes in their wake is definitely not the same.

[Edited to complete a sentence that was left hanging :0  ]

And thus it ever was.  “I prefer the old trains...”  ;)