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Title: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: alexross42 on April 12, 2017, 10:49:20
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/plymouth-metro-system-could-spark-rail-revival-in-south-west/story-30263022-detail/story.html (http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/plymouth-metro-system-could-spark-rail-revival-in-south-west/story-30263022-detail/story.html)

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A new train line between Plymouth and Tavistock could be in place within five years, connecting up with a cross-city tram-style Metro system by 2024.

Council chiefs have revealed more detail about plans for a rail revival in the region, saying Plymouth could be better connected with the wider South West than ever before.

Patrick Nicholson, deputy leader of Plymouth City Council, says housing developments in Tavistock are key to unlocking funding for a new station to be built in the town.

"We believe the Tavistock to Plymouth line is deliverable in the next five years," he said.

"Elsewhere in Plymouth area, guided by the Joint Local Plan, we will be looking at potential sites for a new station in Plympton over the next 12 months."

A map of what the network could eventually look like (above) shows new stations in Tavistock, Plympton and Trerulefoot in south east Cornwall.

The Plymouth Metro could run between Devonport, Plymouth, Plympton and Ivybridge, allowing passengers to link up with existing rail services in the east and west.

The new Tavistock service could run through Bere Alston, Bere Ferrers, St Budeaux and Keyham on the way to Plymouth and then up to Newton Abbot.

The Department for Transport has begun the process of renewing the South West's rail franchise, with a new deal set to be in place by 2020.

Some ideas in here have certainly been around for a while but I've not heard of the Trerulefoot proposal before - it's certainly got potential, the road between there and Saltash/Plymouth is full of accident blackspots, pinch points and endless roadworks so a park and ride system could go someway to alleviate the pressure already on the roads.


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: ChrisB on April 12, 2017, 11:29:51
If it's fully funded, NR may be able to work it into CP6, if not, forget it (within 5 years, that is)


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: LiskeardRich on April 12, 2017, 12:51:04
the two new stations may happen, the line to Tavistock I think is unlikely especially within 5 yeara


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: Andy on April 12, 2017, 19:43:32
It makes for happy reading... but....
it already feels like an eternity that the Tavistock line reopening has been discussed....
New stations at Plympton and Trerulefoot Park & Ride would require a decent and very regular service between Newton Abbot and ?Liskeard/Bodmin/Par. Is that feasible?
 


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: LiskeardRich on April 12, 2017, 20:16:11
It makes for happy reading... but....
it already feels like an eternity that the Tavistock line reopening has been discussed....
New stations at Plympton and Trerulefoot Park & Ride would require a decent and very regular service between Newton Abbot and ?Liskeard/Bodmin/Par. Is that feasible?
 

Not with the twice hourly Exeter to Penzance services. Unless we had an express derived at say xx00, and a stopper at xx20, or they'll end up getting too close by Penzance


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: chopper1944 on April 12, 2017, 22:56:42
Could not the express overtake the stopper at Par?


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: grahame on April 13, 2017, 13:56:24
I'm getting a bit confused in my geography

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/docdev.jpg)

Has the dockyard moved down the Tamar, and station names Dockyard and Devonport been swapped?


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: LiskeardRich on April 13, 2017, 15:51:04
It has according to this!


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: Pb_devon on April 13, 2017, 18:10:25
I'm getting a bit confused in my geography


Has the dockyard moved down the Tamar, and station names Dockyard and Devonport been swapped?

Oh dear, a certain author (of this parish) will have to rewrite his book on the Dockyard Railway. 😀😀


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: Pb_devon on April 13, 2017, 19:05:12
The catchment area for any station under the Plympton banner is now to the east of the old town, right on the 1 in 40 Hemerdon bank.  My understanding is that current design rules won't allow a station on such a gradient.  The old station site is at the foot of the bank, so westbound trains would probably slide past in dodgy conditions!
I suppose there could be a station adjacent to Tavistock Junction Yard ( where the line is near enough level and straight), but there's already an established and well used bus P&R nearby.

Ill-thought through.


Title: Re: Plymouth Metro - plan with new stations revealed.
Post by: old original on April 13, 2017, 20:13:31
Is it a bird?  Is it a plane?  nope just another pie in the sky... or the proverbial flying porker....



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