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Title: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: Timmer on February 22, 2008, 17:48:00
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=227209&contentPK=19954125&folderPk=106757&pNodeId=227220

More mutterings against FGW from the corridors of power though its just mere saber rattling as they know that taking the franchise off First would be a disaster so it won't happen.

Worth scrolling to the bottom of the article as a comment made by one of the chronicle's readers (not me BTW) makes interesting reading stating 8 points as to why its down to DFT that things are in the state that they got into. First don't escape entirely without some blame though.


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: Lee on February 23, 2008, 05:59:22
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=180730&command=displayContent&sourceNode=227209&contentPK=19954125&folderPk=106757&pNodeId=227220

More mutterings against FGW from the corridors of power though its just mere saber rattling as they know that taking the franchise off First would be a disaster so it won't happen.

Worth scrolling to the bottom of the article as a comment made by one of the chronicle's readers (not me BTW) makes interesting reading stating 8 points as to why its down to DFT that things are in the state that they got into. First don't escape entirely without some blame though.

7) is incorrect as the London-Reading corridor will be getting new stock. Its the Bristol area that will be receiving second-hand carriages.

The rest of the points have merit, but it obviously depends on your viewpoint.


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: swlines on February 23, 2008, 06:03:28
Funny how it's the word 'refreshed' used far more nowadays....


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: 12hoursunday on February 23, 2008, 11:25:41
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They have ruined the intercity trains by making them cramped without hardly any tables for families with their recent refurbishment.

Cramped what's he on about I'm a biggish and I don't find them cramped and I know a a bloke nearly seven foot tall and he seems to fit in quite nice.
 

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and their hidious livery are their fault

funny in it that the people of the industries press find both the 'refreshed' HST's and the new Livery as one of the best things about FGW. Dynamic ;D


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: smokey on February 24, 2008, 12:31:30
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They have ruined the intercity trains by making them cramped without hardly any tables for families with their recent refurbishment.

Cramped what's he on about I'm a biggish and I don't find them cramped and I know a a bloke nearly seven foot tall and he seems to fit in quite nice.
 

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and their hidious livery are their fault

funny in it that the people of the industries press find both the 'refreshed' HST's and the new Livery as one of the best things about FGW. Dynamic ;D

I'm 98% sure that the Industries Press travel around FIRST CLASS.

But then what else can be said to be good about FGW?

I'm not alone in thinking there should be more tables in standard class HST carriages, even if there is LESS leg room at tables when occupied both sides, and the new livery is better than the old, but ATW, Southern, SWT, Virgin even Grand Central have a better exterior livery than FGW.


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: devon_metro on February 24, 2008, 12:52:50
Personal opinion there smokey!

FGW is my favourite!


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: swlines on February 25, 2008, 03:50:25
Depends if you like pretty swirly lines Liam.

After all, the solution to most Great Western problems prior to taking over Wessex were just reliverying and saying "it's all change" - oh, hang on, they're still doing it with Wessex livery to FGW livery....  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: devon_metro on February 25, 2008, 17:37:14
I'd say FGW aren't one of the "waste your money on livery" groups, after start of the franchise at least. Look at NX!

NXEC, One changing - NXEA! Make your mind up...


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: Btline on February 25, 2008, 22:15:10
The FGW livery is a disgrace (especially on the Thames Turbos- yuck!). When another company takes over (be it 20 years!!!!) the first thing they will do is strip those bloody dynamic lines off, and (in the case of the Turbos) put a brighter colour on! Take a look at LM's new one, the Virgin one - some imagination!!!! And Govia have not splashed the same on all their companies!

The NX livery is dreadful. It is bland, boring and will get dirty.

And capitalise "national express!!!!!!" That is one thing I like about First. It is "First," not "first."

As I have posted before, livery changes are a waste of money and should be banned. Keep the liveries, just slap on the company name when they take over. Give the UK network an integrated feel, even if it is fragmented!


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: Conner on February 25, 2008, 22:18:30
I love liveries.
You get to see weird and wacky trains.
FGW livery is the best IMO.


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 25, 2008, 23:39:47
Actually, qprrule, I agree.  Just look at the St Ives Bay Belle -

You get to see weird and wacky trains.

All that lovely light blue: just so practical on a diesel train???

 ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: tramway on February 26, 2008, 12:05:24
I really don^t think the current livery on the regional stock is quite distinctive enough, yes a neat idea to play with the corporate livery but something a little more dramatic would have set them apart. How about inverting the main scheme, make the doors blue and overall the pink from the doors?

Although I suspect you would need sunglasses to look at it.


Title: Re: Minister's Rail Firm Concern
Post by: vacman on February 26, 2008, 14:43:25
Livery is something that is always down to personal opinion, personally I think the units look quite smart in their new livery, it's actually grown on me though, didn't think much of it at first.



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