Great Western Coffee Shop

Sideshoots - associated subjects => The West - but NOT trains in the West => Topic started by: Lee on February 18, 2008, 12:14:38



Title: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: Lee on February 18, 2008, 12:14:38
The massive metal cables securing the 47-year-old Tamar Bridge are to undergo detailed inspection to discover if they have weakened by rust (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=19905570&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: welshman on February 21, 2008, 19:31:30
There's a one word answer to that - "Brunel".


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: smokey on February 24, 2008, 13:59:39
Brunel's Bridge over the Tamar is far more graceful than the concrete and cable road bridge, however IF the road bridge was closed for repairs, I just wonder How much Busy Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, Menheniot, St Germans, Saltash, St Budeaux F Rd, Keyham, Dockyard, Devonport and Plymouth stations would become whilst motorists had to travel by Rail or Torpoint Ferry.

Would FGW run extra services? ;D
Increase train length?  ;D

Expect Network Rail would close the Rail Bridge at the same time for enginering works.  ::)


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: Tinminer on April 11, 2008, 18:36:24
The massive metal cables securing the 47-year-old Tamar Bridge are to undergo detailed inspection to discover if they have weakened by rust (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=19905570&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466

This is a problem affecting all suspension bridges in the world. On the BBC's Coast programme they monitior the cables with tiny microphones - you could hear individual strands of steel snapping!

I think the 'old' Severn Bridge is particularly badly affected.


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: smokey on April 12, 2008, 12:30:24
Hee Hee, If you want to be put off EVER going across the Tamar Road Suspension Bridge, just leave the Car at the Car park over looking the Bridges and Walk over to Saltash. ;D


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: eightf48544 on April 12, 2008, 14:56:42
How about a second Brunel Bridge (eliminate the single track bottle neck) and a second double track Severn Tunnel?

They would be cheaper than new road bridges.



Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: Btline on April 12, 2008, 17:01:30
I have always wondered why they (insted of building a new road bridge) that they did not just build a new straight (i.e. greater than 15 mph!) double track rail and 4 lane road bridge.

The old Brunel bridge could be converted to a cycle-way and dedicated footpath.

That would improve the journey for 3 greener forms of transport!


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 12, 2008, 23:48:37
Hee Hee, If you want to be put off EVER going across the Tamar Road Suspension Bridge, just leave the Car at the Car park over looking the Bridges and Walk over to Saltash. ;D

Thanks, smokey!

That brings back memories of a school trip, when I must have been about 9 or 10, living in Plymstock: we were taken by coach to the Tamar Bridge (it was quite new, then!) and we walked across it. I still remember classmates gripping hands together and turning green as the bridge 'swayed'!

 :P


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: smokey on April 13, 2008, 09:47:41
I have always wondered why they (insted of building a new road bridge) that they did not just build a new straight (i.e. greater than 15 mph!) double track rail and 4 lane road bridge.

The old Brunel bridge could be converted to a cycle-way and dedicated footpath.

That would improve the journey for 3 greener forms of transport!

Brunel built the land-spans of the Royal Albert Bridge on a curve for a solid reason.
Hint: Try standing a straight sheet of A4 paper on it's side, try again with just a gentle curve!

The 15mph restriction on the Bridge is because of the viabrations that occur in the Tube sections of the bridge.


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: Btline on April 13, 2008, 17:43:20
Never knew/thought of those points!

Is there any way the speed could be increased?


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: smokey on April 15, 2008, 17:51:49
Never knew/thought of those points!

Is there any way the speed could be increased?

BR ran Test Trains over Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge.

Started at 5 mph then 10, 15 then 20mph.

Test instruments went off the SCALE at 20 mph :o , so would think we are stuck with 15mph for many years to come.

Anyway for most passengers it's a great view going over the River :)


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: vacman on April 16, 2008, 01:07:31
It's quite  nice going over the Royal Albert Bridge at slow speed, Brunel was a bit short sighted only building it single track though ;)


Title: Re: Tamar Bridge Cables To Be Tested For Corrosion
Post by: smokey on April 17, 2008, 20:30:48
It's quite  nice going over the Royal Albert Bridge at slow speed, Brunel was a bit short sighted only building it single track though ;)

May be it was short sighted to build the Royal Albert Bridge Single line, but a double track bridge would have cost more than DOUBLE, and most Viaducts in the South West were Timber on Stone piers, built this way (AGAINST Brunel's wishes) to Save on construction costs.



This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net