Great Western Coffee Shop

All across the Great Western territory => Fare's Fair => Topic started by: grahame on December 02, 2016, 07:09:39



Title: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: grahame on December 02, 2016, 07:09:39
"Just announced - 2.3% increase in unregulated fares ..." / BBC Wiltshire, 7 a.m.     Versus 0.9% on regulated?

Is this Rail Delivery Group (ex ATOC) announcement?


Title: Re: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 02, 2016, 07:19:04
"Just announced - 2.3% increase in unregulated fares ..." / BBC Wiltshire, 7 a.m.     Versus 0.9% on regulated?

Is this Rail Delivery Group (ex ATOC) announcement?

...................a small price to pay for all that luxury, efficiency and outstanding customer service  ::)


Title: Re: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: grahame on December 02, 2016, 07:42:28
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/dec/02/train-fares-to-go-up-by-23-in-2017

And from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38180049

Quote
Train fares in Britain will go up by an average of 2.3% from 2 January, the rail industry has announced.
The increase in regulated fares, which includes season tickets, is capped at July's RPI inflation rate of 1.9%.
Unregulated fares, such as off-peak leisure tickets, can go up by as much as the train companies like.
The Rail Delivery Group, which represents train operators and Network Rail, said the industry was working to simplify fares and improve services.
"We understand how passengers feel when fares go up, and we know that in some places they haven't always got the service they pay for," said Paul Plummer, chief executive of the Rail Delivery Group.


Title: Re: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 02, 2016, 07:55:42
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/dec/02/train-fares-to-go-up-by-23-in-2017

And from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38180049

Quote
Train fares in Britain will go up by an average of 2.3% from 2 January, the rail industry has announced.
The increase in regulated fares, which includes season tickets, is capped at July's RPI inflation rate of 1.9%.
Unregulated fares, such as off-peak leisure tickets, can go up by as much as the train companies like.
The Rail Delivery Group, which represents train operators and Network Rail, said the industry was working to simplify fares and improve services.
"We understand how passengers feel when fares go up, and we know that in some places they haven't always got the service they pay for," said Paul Plummer, chief executive of the Rail Delivery Group.


Plummer has just been interviewed on the BBC, he was frankly pathetic.


Title: Re: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: ChrisB on December 02, 2016, 10:21:40
1.9% regulated I think?

And if the *overall* average is 2.3%, that surely means the unregulated are *above* 2.3%. I wonder what that basket % actually is?


Title: Re: Unregulated fare increase.
Post by: grahame on December 02, 2016, 10:33:36
1.9% regulated I think?

And if the *overall* average is 2.3%, that surely means the unregulated are *above* 2.3%. I wonder what that basket % actually is?

As an educated guess, regulated / regulated are about 50 / 50 - so in very rough terms, unregulated are going up by about 2.7%?   As talk is of "simplifying the system" I would hope that's really the case (even though I regret the loss of lower cost tickets) rather than loading higher price fares to distort the matrix further.



This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net