Title: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Lee on February 14, 2008, 11:27:03 Truronian has around 70 vehicles, comprising 50 buses and 20 coaches. In addition to its bus routes, the company runs a number of high profile services, such as the Eden Project park and ride scheme (links below.)
http://thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232510&home=yes&more_nodeId1=232470&contentPK=19867902 http://thisisplymouth.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=133464&command=displayContent&sourceNode=133158&contentPK=19872612&folderPk=78031&pNodeId=133174 The firm launched the first BendiBuses in the region. It also undertakes National Express operations and offers executive coach hire as well as UK and European coach holidays. Truronian's turnover has grown from around ^200,000 in 1987 to ^8million, and in the last three years the firm has invested more than ^3.5 million in new vehicles. The company's offices and main depot and workshop are in Truro and it also has an operating base in Helston. The transaction is subject to clearance from the Office of Fair Trading and completion of the due diligence process, after which the acquisition can take place. Quote from Truronian : Quote "Since launching Truronian Ltd in 1987 we have worked immensely hard to build a company that our passengers can respect and trust," "The opportunity to be part of the UK's largest surface transport company is definitely good news all round." Quote from First : Quote "This is a hugely exciting time for both First and Truronian and I see this acquisition as a good and natural fit for both businesses. "Not only is this great news for the local economy but Truronian customers will soon have the UK's largest transport company alongside them on their every journey." Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Lee on February 14, 2008, 23:51:40 The RMT is seeking an early meeting with First over this (link below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/02/rmt_seeks_early_meeting_with_f.html#more Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Conner on February 15, 2008, 09:05:19 NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
GRRR! Truronian are an amazing independent company and they are cheaper than First. First now operate all the bus services around here and they will just cut any ones I can use. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Phil on February 15, 2008, 10:05:24 ;D
So I take it then that you are broadly speaking against the proposal, qprrule? :D Incidentally, thanks very much for your useful input to the "Local journeys: Plymouth - Penzance" section, which can now be seen here. http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=1740.0 If anyone else has anything to offer which could usefully update some of the information held, please don't hesitate to get in touch. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: FarWestJohn on February 15, 2008, 14:09:23 This is appalling disastrous news. Truronian have been a shining light in local public transport together with Western Greyhound. They took many services over from First and made them reliable and cheaper - Roseland and St.Mawes for example.
First Group are scruffy and expensive. Last summer I witnessed four people buying tickets on a No 1 bus for the short trip from Porthcurno to Sennen. The First driver said 'it would be cheaper to get a taxi'!! They did and it was, say no more. The connections between First buses and trains at Penzance for example is appalling, I don't think they know each other exists. First have wrecked our wonderful HSTs internally and cannot run a reliable timetabled service even though the routes they serve are pretty basic compared with our previous choices. They obviously do not want to run the old Wessex area local trains as many previous entries on this site have already shown. There will be no public transport competition in most of Cornwall if this is allowed to happen. I can see more branch line services becoming buses at this rate. They already run an express bus X18 from Penzance to Truro paralleling the main line. I really did not want to hear this news. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Conner on February 15, 2008, 20:38:54 ;D Yes.So I take it then that you are broadly speaking against the proposal, qprrule? :D I didn't think First would be able to do this. Truronian always take pride in being a locally run independent bus operator and they are much cheaper. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: vacman on February 15, 2008, 22:04:13 This is appalling disastrous news. Truronian have been a shining light in local public transport together with Western Greyhound. They took many services over from First and made them reliable and cheaper - Roseland and St.Mawes for example. First busses are pretty dire, but if First were trying to do away with the railway by running the X18 (which still takes much longer than the train!!) then surely the bus would be cheaper?? And to be honest, when was the last time you saw a cancelled train in Cornwall? OK the 0705 was canned on one occassion last week but most Cornish services have actually improved since FGW took over - Falmouth is always a 2 car, Wessex ALWAYS reduced it to a single car IN THE SUMMER MONTHS which is the busiest time, the Newquay used to be a single 153 ALL YEAR, it's now a 150 all year, Looe used to be a 153 even in the summer, under FGW it's a 150 in the summer, and then theres the good old 0705 Plymouth Penzance which the equivelent service under Wessex was a 2 car 158 which was so overcrowded every day that in excess of 50 people per day were left behind at St Austell, if you remember back it was on the news all the time, well that train is now an 8 coach HST! No their not perfect but the improvements never seem to be talked about! As for the busses though, if First Cornwall are anything to go by then Truronian will go down the pan!!!First Group are scruffy and expensive. Last summer I witnessed four people buying tickets on a No 1 bus for the short trip from Porthcurno to Sennen. The First driver said 'it would be cheaper to get a taxi'!! They did and it was, say no more. The connections between First buses and trains at Penzance for example is appalling, I don't think they know each other exists. First have wrecked our wonderful HSTs internally and cannot run a reliable timetabled service even though the routes they serve are pretty basic compared with our previous choices. They obviously do not want to run the old Wessex area local trains as many previous entries on this site have already shown. There will be no public transport competition in most of Cornwall if this is allowed to happen. I can see more branch line services becoming buses at this rate. They already run an express bus X18 from Penzance to Truro paralleling the main line. I really did not want to hear this news. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: John R on February 15, 2008, 22:22:20 I didn't think First would be able to do this. Truronian always take pride in being a locally run independent bus operator and they are much cheaper. But if I understand it correctly the owners are getting to the point (age) where they need to decide the future of the business. So... either take an offer (presumably reasonably lucrative) from First Group, or try and find another buyer, or keep the business going. If I were in their position, its difficult to argue against what they've done. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: smokey on February 16, 2008, 11:06:05 ;D Yes.So I take it then that you are broadly speaking against the proposal, qprrule? :D I didn't think First would be able to do this. Truronian always take pride in being a locally run independent bus operator and they are much cheaper. Well when First take over Truronian we can look forward to the late Redruth-Helston bus being axed, the Helston & Eden project "Branchline" busses being retimed to arrive at the Railway station 5 minutes AFTER the train has left and for the busses to leave 5 minutes BEFORE the Train arrives. Who would agree that the 3 most successful Railway Franchises first time around were Chilten Trains, GNER and Virgin West Coast. The common thread not one operates busses. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: vacman on February 16, 2008, 11:38:20 the Helston & Eden project "Branchline" busses being retimed to arrive at the Railway station 5 minutes AFTER the train has left and for the busses to leave 5 minutes BEFORE the Train arrives. Like it does most of the time now since Truronian made the bus service "clockface", but yet the train service isn't.Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: vacman on February 16, 2008, 11:39:19 As for most successful TOC's, C2C, Chiltern and South West Trains.
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Conner on February 16, 2008, 16:00:25 As for most successful TOC's, C2C, Chiltern and South West Trains. Mine would have to be:Chiltern, South West Trains and Virgin West Coast. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: vacman on February 16, 2008, 20:44:35 I think C2C are very under estimated, they turned around what was under BR the "misery line" into what it is now, was the first TOC to have an all new train fleet and are about the most punctual and reliable London suburban TOC.
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: swlines on February 16, 2008, 20:45:48 Not to mention their 357 fleet is the top performing newest generation AC OHLE EMU. Reliability will drop when they get some 321s though! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: vacman on February 16, 2008, 20:48:10 Not to mention their 357 fleet is the top performing newest generation AC OHLE EMU. Reliability will drop when they get some 321s though! ;) ;D 321's are THE most reliable OLE EMU's in the UK I was led to believe? or are they the most reliable ex BR units?Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Jim on February 16, 2008, 21:56:41 I quite like the 357's as trains.
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Lee on February 17, 2008, 07:40:13 I think C2C are very under estimated, they turned around what was under BR the "misery line" into what it is now, was the first TOC to have an all new train fleet and are about the most punctual and reliable London suburban TOC. That said, I remember c2c being forced to back down less than a month after introducing a very unpopular December 2006 timetable..... http://www.echo-news.co.uk/display.var.1099738.0.old_c2c_timetable_back_on_monday.php Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Jim on February 17, 2008, 09:12:42 I think C2C are very under estimated, they turned around what was under BR the "misery line" into what it is now, was the first TOC to have an all new train fleet and are about the most punctual and reliable London suburban TOC. That said, I remember c2c being forced to back down less than a month after introducing a very unpopular December 2006 timetable..... http://www.echo-news.co.uk/display.var.1099738.0.old_c2c_timetable_back_on_monday.php Yes, but FGW didn't did they! Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: John R on February 17, 2008, 11:01:30 Difference is that C2C still had the stock, FGW didn't.
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Sue29 on February 29, 2008, 09:16:06 I fully understand the concerns about the bus services currently operated by Truronian but what about the coach side of the business? Are FIRST planning to continue operating the holiday tours?
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: smokey on February 29, 2008, 12:56:54 I fully understand the concerns about the bus services currently operated by Truronian but what about the coach side of the business? Are FIRST planning to continue operating the holiday tours? Well if First Westrn National start running holiday tours like FGW run(?) a rail service I'm sure FWN would soon appear on a Holiday Review programme on TV. Holiday's from HELL Title: Truronian Coach Tours Post by: Sue29 on March 14, 2008, 22:16:04 Please does anyone know whether First Bus will be taking over the coach touring side of Truronian or if not who will be operating that side of the business?
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Chris2 on April 09, 2008, 16:39:08 Truronian Bus Company was sold to First Devon & Cornwall Ltd on the 8th April after clearance was obtained from the Office of Fair Trading. More information in the following link
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144143&command=displayContent&sourceNode=144131&contentPK=20350912&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144143&command=displayContent&sourceNode=144131&contentPK=20350912&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch) Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Lee on April 09, 2008, 16:43:53 Truronian Bus Company was sold to First Devon & Cornwall Ltd on the 8th April after clearance was obtained from the Office of Fair Trading. More information in the following link http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144143&command=displayContent&sourceNode=144131&contentPK=20350912&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144143&command=displayContent&sourceNode=144131&contentPK=20350912&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch) Quote from: Marc Reddy, First Devon & Cornwall I would like to stress that not only is this great news for the local economy but Truronian customers will soon have the assurance that they have the UK's largest transport company alongside them on their every journey." Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Conner on April 09, 2008, 22:04:23 My dad who drives buses for a private company who meets Truronian drivers on school runs said they said Firs managers were meeting them at work yesterday morning. On the back of many single decker buses First has been sandblasted on in the same style as on First buses.
Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Lee on April 10, 2008, 11:06:49 Truronian's T3 service down to the tip of The Lizard has been hailed as one of the best in Britain by the Daily Express (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=20358408&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466 Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Conner on April 10, 2008, 16:00:42 Its is quite funny at the moment as most Truronian buses still have Truronian vinyls but have First sandblasted on windows.
So they are First Truronian. Title: Re: Truronian Bus Company To Be Sold To FirstGroup Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 31, 2011, 17:17:50 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-13601005):
Quote Truronian Holidays to cease trading A Cornish coach holiday firm is to be wound down with the loss of two jobs, it has been announced. Truronian Holidays will cease trading on 1 November because of "difficult trading and economic conditions", its owners First Devon and Cornwall said. Truronian Holidays will honour all pre-booked trips until that date where the required numbers had been met, it said. All driving staff will move to First but two jobs in the firm's Truro shop would be lost, a spokeswoman said. Truronian Holidays runs coach trips and holidays around the UK and across Europe. It was taken over by First in 2008, which said it absorbed the local bus services running under the Truronian name and operated the coach holiday side of the business separately. Robbie Lamerton, general manager for First Devon and Cornwall, said: "After several years of running both companies we have made a decision to focus on scheduled passenger transport services rather than bespoke holiday packages. Unfortunately a deal to sell the holiday business as a going concern fell through earlier this year so Truronian Holidays will be officially wound down, and will cease trading in the autumn." He said it was "deeply regrettable" that two jobs in the holiday firm's Truro shop would be lost. The private hire part of the business - provided by First Devon and Cornwall Coach Hire utilising vehicles with Truronian livery - was to continue to run as normal, First Group said. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |