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Title: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 06, 2016, 21:10:46
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35976723):

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Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film

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Thomas the Tank Engine competes against the new international engines at the Great Railway Show in the film The Great Race

Thomas the Tank Engine is getting a multicultural makeover with the introduction of trains from around the world.

Engines from India, Russia and China among others are being introduced in a new film The Great Race.

The new engines are due to only feature in the film and won't be appearing in future TV episodes.

The producer of the film has denied claims the filmmakers had bowed to political correctness.

Ian McCue told the Telegraph: "The intention was to create this big global racing event and make it feel real. I would hope it will get youngsters asking about foreign countries."

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Flying Scotsman represents the UK in the Thomas film The Great Race

The Great Race is the eleventh animated feature film for Thomas and the new characters are likely increase interest from international markets.

It is released worldwide from May 2016.

In the Great Race Thomas competes against the new international engines at the Great Railway Show.

The Flying Scotsman represents the UK, while Thomas competes to represent the island of Sodor where he lives.

Here are the new trains with their official biographies.

There are two engines from India in the film called Ashima and Rajiv.

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Ashima of India is hand painted

Fearless Ashima comes from the Nilgiri Mountain Railway in Southern India, which is dangerous and difficult to climb.

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Rajiv's beautiful colours make him the perfect contender for the Best Decorated Engine Parade

Rajiv is a small tank engine from the East Indian Railway, who carries passengers and goods from Calcutta in the east up to the north of India.

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Carlos of Mexico is the life and soul of the Great Railway Show

Based on a Nacionale De Mexico 903 2-8-0, Carlos of Mexico is a proud and happy steam engine from the heart of Mexico.

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Axel of Belgium is effortlessly cool

Based on a SNCB Type 12.004, Axel of Belgium is a smooth streamlined tender engine built for speed.

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Etienne of France is a formidable engine

Etienne of France is based on the SNCF DC BB 9004, he is a fast electric locomotive who has been setting world speed records in his home country.

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Frieda of Germany has come to show that anything boys can do, girls can do better

Based on a DB Class 10 001-002, Frieda of Germany will be entering the Strongest Engine race in the film.

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Gina of Italy is described as 'sweet and stylish'

Gina of Italy is based on the Locomotiva FNM 200-05 and she can match the boys pound for pound when it comes to shunting freight in the yard.

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Ivan of Russia is said to be a real comedian

Based on a TGM 23, Ivan of Russia is the only Diesel locomotive competing in the Great Railway Show.

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Raul of Brazil is a strong and agile shunter

Raul of Brazil looks like a diesel but he is in fact a steam engine based on a Sentinel 7109.

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Shane of Australia loves to have fun and his carefree ways have made him many friends

Based on a SteamRanger 520 Sir Malcolm Barclay Harvey, Shane of Australia is one of the Whispering Giants of the South Australian Railway - a big strong steam engine who was built for passenger and mixed freight work.

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Yong Bao of China is a kind and faithful tender engine

Based on an RM Class 4-6-2, Yong Bao of China once cleverly diverted an accident, saving hundreds of passengers and was decorated for his bravery and painted bright red, which is a colour that symbolises celebration and happiness.

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Racing Vinnie of North America is not to be messed with

Racing Vinnie of North America is big and strong but his competitive nature could be his downfall.


No national stereotypes there, then.  ::) :o ;D


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: JayMac on April 06, 2016, 22:54:12
What national stereotypes?

Cool Belgians? Russian comedians? Faithful Chinese?

Also, who are making the claims of political correctness? The Telegraph fail to mention that. Perhaps because it is they doing so.


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 06, 2016, 23:17:03
From the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/childrens-books/allison-pearson-i-shuddered-to-read-thomas-the-tank-engine-books/):

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Allison Pearson: I shuddered to read Thomas the Tank Engine books - even before they went multicultural

As a rule, attempts to update much-loved classics are doomed to failure, or at least to embarrassing naffness. When it comes to Thomas the Tank Engine, however, all new twists are welcome. I used to think the Thomas books were delightful, and then I had children. Reading the prose of the Reverend W. Awdry was to know what it would have been like if Enid Blyton had been demonically possessed by Ian Paisley. What on earth motivates the adults of the world ^not just the English-speaking ones ^ to go on buying Thomas books and paraphernalia? And why do kids go on demanding them?

In a word, trains. Anything you can push around on a track seems to speak to the depths of the childish mind. I accept that. But if you must push an engine around and make chuffing noises, why does it have to come from an island that bears the immortally unfortunate name of Sodor?

Everything about the place is deeply sinister. Various bad-tempered males called James and Gordon keep shunting one another into sidings, while the Fat Controller, who sounds like someone who escaped from a first draft of an Orwell novel, bosses them around. And, worst of all, they seem to like it. Nothing is more calculated to turn our darling offspring into little demagogues.

So, I say it^s high time for a reboot. Enter Mattel, whose Thomas toys earn more than 500 million quid every year. Conscious of its global responsiblities, Mattel has decided to broaden the appeal of the range. On top of his cranky British pals, Thomas will now have 14 new friends from other countries, eager to be coupled. Each comes equipped with a broadly smiling face and a full set of steam-powered ethnic stereotypes.

Yong Bao of China, for instance, is ^driven to achieve and make progress^, whereas Carlos of Mexico is ^proud^ presumably proud enough to knock down any walls built by Donald of America. Raul of Brazil is described as ^feisty^ and ^strong^, although if the news from Brazil is anything to go by, he may soon be forced off the tracks by frustrated passengers who are even stronger and feistier than he is.

All this is excellent news. It can only mean that Sodor will become a more democratic spot. Anything to hasten the day when the Fat Controller is overthrown, or at any rate goes on the Dukan diet. Also, to judge by the publicity photos, the flirtatious look that long-lashed Ashima of India is throwing at our hero may simply be too much for the old boy. ^New from Mattel: Thomas, with Real Exploding Boiler! Watch Him Go Loco!^

No word, as yet, on whether we can expect a Karlheinz of Germany, but if he doesn^t start ramming poor Yanis of Greece and telling him to lose half his carriages or else the whole island will hit the buffers, I want my money back.


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: JayMac on April 07, 2016, 04:00:03
Ahhh... Allison Pearson. Aka Phillipa Column.

Editor's brief: Nothing to say in 1000 words or less, please.


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 07:00:24
I'm not a fan of these CGI remakes - some things, in my opinion, are just not right. It's like Thunderbirds without strings or Crossroads without wobbly sets.

Oh, and does Ringo Starr do the voiceover?! (Yes, I know he wasn't the only voice for the TV series but he is the one I associate with it.



Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: Rob on the hill on April 07, 2016, 10:57:11
I presume formidable Etienne is bi-mode... ;)


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 10:58:57
I presume formidable Etienne is bi-mode... ;)

Oooo-eeerrrr missus!


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: patch38 on April 07, 2016, 11:00:49
I think Axel of Belgium is nothing more than Buzz Lightyear hit from behind by a locomotive...


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: TeaStew on April 07, 2016, 11:25:15
I'm not a fan of these CGI remakes - some things, in my opinion, are just not right. It's like Thunderbirds without strings or Crossroads without wobbly sets.

Oh, and does Ringo Starr do the voiceover?! (Yes, I know he wasn't the only voice for the TV series but he is the one I associate with it.



Quite agree with all this. These newer versions actually look less real to me - and far too clean  :-\



Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 11:28:44
I'm not a fan of these CGI remakes - some things, in my opinion, are just not right. It's like Thunderbirds without strings or Crossroads without wobbly sets.

Oh, and does Ringo Starr do the voiceover?! (Yes, I know he wasn't the only voice for the TV series but he is the one I associate with it.



Quite agree with all this. These newer versions actually look less real to me - and far too clean  :-\



Bring back "Muffin the Mule" I say..


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: Western Pathfinder on April 07, 2016, 18:15:34
I'm not a fan of these CGI remakes - some things, in my opinion, are just not right. It's like Thunderbirds without strings or Crossroads without wobbly sets.

Oh, and does Ringo Starr do the voiceover?! (Yes, I know he wasn't the only voice for the TV series but he is the one I associate with it.



Quite agree with all this. These newer versions actually look less real to me - and far too clean  :-\



Bring back "Muffin the Mule" I say..

I'm almost certain that's an Offence .


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 19:07:12
I'm not a fan of these CGI remakes - some things, in my opinion, are just not right. It's like Thunderbirds without strings or Crossroads without wobbly sets.

Oh, and does Ringo Starr do the voiceover?! (Yes, I know he wasn't the only voice for the TV series but he is the one I associate with it.



Quite agree with all this. These newer versions actually look less real to me - and far too clean  :-\



Bring back "Muffin the Mule" I say..

I'm almost certain that's an Offence .

It is most def politically incorrect nowadays but - I believe - still goes on in places


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: JayMac on April 07, 2016, 19:26:41
What I think is most important with this CGI Thomas film and the current CGI TV series' is the target audience.

I've not heard any complaints from the near 3 year old nephew who watches the latest series' with me. Yes, I miss the original live action models, sets, and Ringo Starr/Michael Angelis, but those series' are still available from many outlets. I see nothing wrong with the latest iteration of Thomas & Friends. CGI allows for far more locations and storylines than the limitations of a studio set.

I'm fairly certain that my nephew will enjoy the upcoming film and care not one jot about what adults think of the show.


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 19:41:04
What I think is most important with this CGI Thomas film and the current CGI TV series' is the target audience.

I've not heard any complaints from the near 3 year old nephew who watches the latest series' with me. Yes, I miss the original live action models, sets, and Ringo Starr/Michael Angelis, but those series' are still available from many outlets. I see nothing wrong with the latest iteration of Thomas & Friends. CGI allows for far more locations and storylines than the limitations of a studio set.

I'm fairly certain that my nephew will enjoy the upcoming film and care not one jot about what adults think of the show.

Yes BnM you are most probably right but one slightly different topic have you seen the signalling arrangements in Chuggington? Imagine to give SandTEngineer heart failure!


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: SandTEngineer on April 07, 2016, 20:56:05
Yes BnM you are most probably right but one slightly different topic have you seen the signalling arrangements in Chuggington? Imagine to give SandTEngineer heart failure!
OK I'll bite. What signalling is that?............ :P :o


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on April 07, 2016, 21:22:09
Yes BnM you are most probably right but one slightly different topic have you seen the signalling arrangements in Chuggington? Imagine to give SandTEngineer heart failure!
OK I'll bite. What signalling is that?............ :P :o

Have you seen Chuggington S&T?

I can't believe I am doing this but here is a clip from YouTube...if you haven't seen it then you will soon understand what I mean by signalling (or lack of!)

https://youtu.be/s42nh8sbkZE (https://youtu.be/s42nh8sbkZE)


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: Merthyr Imp on April 08, 2016, 22:57:38
From the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/childrens-books/allison-pearson-i-shuddered-to-read-thomas-the-tank-engine-books/):

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But if you must push an engine around and make chuffing noises, why does it have to come from an island that bears the immortally unfortunate name of Sodor?


It seems the writer is not aware of the reason why the island is called that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Sodor_and_Man

It being located, of course, between Barrow-in-Furness and the Isle of Man.


Title: Re: Thomas the Tank Engine goes global for new film
Post by: SandTEngineer on April 09, 2016, 11:56:24
Yes BnM you are most probably right but one slightly different topic have you seen the signalling arrangements in Chuggington? Imagine to give SandTEngineer heart failure!
OK I'll bite. What signalling is that?............ :P :o

Have you seen Chuggington S&T?

I can't believe I am doing this but here is a clip from YouTube...if you haven't seen it then you will soon understand what I mean by signalling (or lack of!)

https://youtu.be/s42nh8sbkZE (https://youtu.be/s42nh8sbkZE)
Very good BB.  At least the trains keep moving (unlike some modern signalling systems we have) ::) :P



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