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Has apparantly come back from refurb with seats similar to 158761 (http://jimsphotoallery.fotopic.net/p45899950.html) with no pull down tables!

So 3 refurbs have old seats and the rest have Richmonds, make up your mind!

Ta to Jim of the info.

Discuss...

Great to hear its back. Lets hope its soon joined by it's hybrid 3 car cousins once again.

http://alexander-martin-brown.fotopic.net/p48314884.html

http://jimsphotoallery.fotopic.net/p48317307.html

Great to see 158798 back, looks really smart.

You took some pics of some 67s with Mk2s Jim, what diagrams were these operating yesterday?

09.27 Padd - Cardiff via Westbury
10.30 Westbury - Cardiff


Not sure about the return runs.

pull down tables are subject to a retro fit programme due to stock issues.

there will be 6 sets with slightly different seats due to not enough of the one type to do whole fleet,i do believe the 6 sets are getting the richmonds.and the rest mtb's

Which 153 is in Eastleigh at the moment?

not too sure

Good, not too many Richmond Seats!!!!!!!!

They are horrible to sit on for ten minutes on the St.Ives branch, i'd hate to think what they'll be like for a long journey.
That makes sense as some extra seats will be needed to go where First Class used to be so the other six are donating them.

First Class seats were merely normal seats with a fluffy armrest and more padding and I imagine the refurb seats have been boosted in terms of padding anyway  :P

A note on 798's seats - The numbering is strange (as posiably the same on others) that there is 1- around 8 - then skips to around 22.

They ALL have brand new seats.

all refurb sets have different numbering they miss some numbers out,this is not a cock up just the way atoc say seats should be numbered.
strange i know but it is correct

they are not brand new,except richmonds.
the frames are reconditioned,plastic shells are new as are some of the cushions if they needed changing.

Thanks for info Jim.

The 6 sets of Richmonds areto cover thr 6 158's without the current 159style seats, 745/6/7/8/9/51.

153377 and 372

Will 361, 329 and 369 be going through the works?

I imagine they'll get thourough clean as per other units and new toilet and colour scheme but possibly keep the quite comfortable seats. I think 329's and 369's should be replaced though as they have the view problem which Richmonds don't.

They have the same seats as 361.

I know but they seemed lower to me.

I hope so, the depressex interior is horrible.

153373 is back
http://southwest-railways.50webs.com/153373.htm
working a Gunnislake-Exeter

Anybody know when it was out?

been out of Eastleigh a week or so.

yes all units in fleet are getting done including 121 &127 as will any further 150's fgw aquire.
fgw are all about image so all units in time will get corporate colour scheme.

Thats quite pleasing to hear! wonder if the 150/1's will get new seats? Didn't the company who made the chapman seats go bust??

Could use the seats coming out of some of the 158s which were chapmans (ex RR)

Looks like 798 has failed this morning... unless they've put it on another service... 0730 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour (or should I say Newport to Portsmouth Harbour) is 2 158 according to FGW today!

From the FGW website :

07:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour due 10:52
This train has been started from Newport South Wales.This train will run short formed with 2 carriages.This is due to signalling problems.

Road replacement will operate from Severn Tunnel Junc to Bristol Temple Meads as a non stop service.

might just be routine maintainence,for example engine and transmission changes etc cannot be done overnight like exam work can

This soon from refurb? I don't think so.

It was down Monday-Wednesday.

why?

these changes are mileage based and are also not in the contract for wabtec to carry out,so if it is due material is ordered and the train is planned in for it to be done.
so it is completey pheasable this is the reason for it to have a few days out of service.it does not always have to be a failiure for a train to be out of service despite what people think.

I'm aware of that.

It would make more sense to do it during the down time after coming back from refurbishment rather than pulling it out of service again...

i agree it would but they cannot be changed until a certain mileage has been reached unless they go bang of course.
plus heavy maintenance is planned in advance to limit the downtime,if it was not then you could end up having several engine or tranny changes in at once.

???  ??? It doesn't make economical sense to change a part before it's life expired, but that doesn't mean you can't not change it!

Apparantly it has died again today...

Well the 15.30 was 2car.

There was a very sound reason that BR workshops always sent Traction units fresh from works out on test runs with back up motive power, ie double headed trains or 2x2 car DMU's.

After refits and new parts, failure rates rocket, electrical equipment will fail within hours of installing or last for ages.

Commonly known as the 'bathtub curve', for those who have too much time on their hands more can be found out here.

http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=211547