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Title: Migrant Death due to electrocution on Eurotunnel train
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on September 18, 2015, 17:06:31
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34287750 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34287750)

Whilst the loss of life is sad IMHO it is hardly unexpected in this case. Whatever the rights or wrongs about what the migrant did it highlights the risks of "unauthorized" travel by train



Title: Re: Migrant Death due to electrocution on Eurotunnel train
Post by: Tim on September 18, 2015, 17:45:07
Surely there should be a way of the UK receiving asylum applications (and then accepting or rejecting them on their merits in accordance with the rules) from someone who is in France without that person having to be physically in the UK first?

Regardless of whether you think our asylum criteria should be strict or lax, surely the ability to climb fences, break into lorries and endanger yourself (and others) on the roof of a train should not one of them.


Title: Re: Migrant Death due to electrocution on Eurotunnel train
Post by: ChrisB on September 18, 2015, 22:03:10
The rules of asylum require them to claim in the first country they arrive in that is safe. There is no choice


Title: Re: Migrant Death due to electrocution on Eurotunnel train
Post by: JayMac on September 22, 2015, 16:40:10
There is no such requirement on refugees to seek asylum in a particular country.

Anyone can claim asylum anywhere if they are a genuine refugee. States may however remove asylum seekers to a safe third country on the grounds that they could have seeked asylum there. Proving they had an opportunity to seek asylum in the first safe country they came to is, however, often difficult.


Title: Re: Migrant Death due to electrocution on Eurotunnel train
Post by: ChrisB on September 22, 2015, 17:29:36
They have no right of passage to reach a chosen country, abd they can only claim asylum once present in their chosen country. Hence the stand off in Calais. Sorry, that is what I actually meant



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