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The DfT warns that there are problems with the reliability of the figures, in particular that standard class passengers were counted on a single day that is not necessarily representative.

The 0422 Glasgow Central to Manchester airport I assume is only crowded at the Manchester end.

Top of the list is a train originating in Scotland, the 04:22 TransPennine Express service from Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport. The time when the most overcrowding was noticed was clearly closer to the 08:47 arrival time in Manchester, when commuters joined the route. At its peak, 355 people were counted on a train designed for 191.

Yep ...

The 0422 Glasgow Central to Manchester airport I assume is only crowded at the Manchester end.

Salt. Pinch. To be read with ...

Not sure why DfT bother to release rubbish information like this when they themselves admit it is likely highly inaccurate.

1. 04:22 service from Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport
(load factor 186%, 164 passengers in excess of its capacity of 191) Capacity is based on seats only. Service has first class.
The three TransPennine Express (TPE) services appearing in the current ^top 10^ list are now routing via Wigan rather than Bolton. Previously the most crowded part of the journey took only 13 minutes from Manchester Oxford Road and was therefore out of scope for inclusion in the list as a standing allowance was included.
Overall, TPE has seen significant growth on the Anglo-Scottish route which offers key long distance leisure trips from Manchester to Edinburgh/Glasgow, alongside a large take up of customers travelling to/from Manchester for commuting purposes. Contributing to this increase has been the introduction of new electric rolling stock on all Anglo-Scottish services route via Wigan which has brought about significant journey time reductions. Low-priced Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) tickets for 20 mile journeys have also contributed to the increase. TPE has now amended Advance Purchase prices in an attempt to move longer distance customers on to services which do not operate in the peak.

2. 16:00 service from Manchester Airport to Edinburgh
(load factor 185%, 162 passengers in excess of its capacity of 191) Capacity is based on seats only. Service has first class.
See note at 1 above.

8. 18:00 service from Manchester Airport to Edinburgh
(load factor 161%, 116 passengers in excess of its capacity of 191) Capacity is based on seats only. Service has first class.
See note at 1 above.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/459321/top-10-crowded-trains-2014-autumn.pdf

Don't they make a 'rod for their own back' in some cases though.   If that TPE service from Glasgow to Man Picc is only crowded for the last few miles, why not just put it in the list as the 07:44 from Preston, or 07:56 from Wigan, or whatever?

Thanks for comfirming. I was starting to imagine the people of Glasgow all get up at 4 am.  ;D

I would be interested to know how many carriages these services have?  ???

We are constantly being told there is a national shortage of carriages which is complete rubbish!  >:(

There are a number of Mk2D, Mk2E, Mk2F and Mk3 carriages in storage or owned by small operators and barely used. These can be hauled by hired-in ETH fitted class 37, 47 and 67 locos.

Just look at the Cumbrian Coast services and also the Norwich - Lowestoft/Great Yarmouth services to see how common sense can prevail.  ;D

Quite a way. Grahame's last report on the 1736 was 96 on a 75 seat unit, so 121%. Would need to squeeze on another 25 before it becomes top of the charts!  :o. Hopefully it will be a 2 car unit before then!

Seems a bit pointless really.

That just about sums it up perfectly.

GWR disappear from the list between spring and autumn 2015. I'm not really sure why

Newcastle's trains are some of the least overcrowded in the country - what do you think?

There were no peak services into Newcastle carrying more passengers than they were designed to, where as 94,000 London-bound passengers had to stand

Rail passengers in Newcastle are some of the best off when it comes to overcrowding.

During peak morning hours, Newcastle has some of the smallest levels of overcrowding on train services compared to the rest of the country.

According to data from the Department of Transport, no train services arriving in Newcastle between 8am and 9am had more passengers than they were designed to carry. In comparison, nearly half of all trains arriving in London at the same time were filled above capacity - and 30 per cent of all passengers had to stand.

None of the train operators in Newcastle had problems with serious overcrowding, although TransPennine Express did see 10 per cent of its passengers standing on services that arrived into the city between 7am and 10am.

7   London   London Paddington   17:18   Great Western Railway   17:18

7. 17:18 London Paddington to Oxford (Great Western Railway) At the time of this count this service was operated as a 5 car train, however, the service in now operated as an 8 car train and capacity has significantly increased.  Additional services will be introduced in January 2018. In the longer term the Elizabeth Line (Crossrail) will provide additional capacity on this route, which should result in a shift in demand on parallel services.

The usual annual overcrowded trains list was released the other day.
Here (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/633080/top-10-overcrowded-train-services-england-and-wales-autumn-2016.csv/preview) is the top 10 list.
Whilst here (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/633081/top-10-overcrowded-train-services-england-and-wales-spring-and-autumn-2016.pdf) is the link to the usual PDF that explains how the list is already out of date.