Title: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 28, 2014, 13:15:16 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30607689):
Quote Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos The Office of Rail Regulation is to launch an investigation into major disruption to passengers caused by overrunning engineering work in London. King's Cross station has remained closed, with travellers told to use Finsbury Park instead. Following "chaotic scenes" at Finsbury Park, passengers faced long queues to get on the platforms for a time. Network Rail managing director Robin Gisby apologised, saying: "We've let a lot of people down today." Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin is demanding an explanation from Network Rail, which is responsible for the UK's train network. Engineering work delays also mean there are no services between London Paddington and Reading. First Great Western is advising Paddington passengers to use alternative routes with South West Trains and Chiltern Trains and has offered refunds to travellers who choose not to travel on Saturday. The work between King's Cross and Finsbury Park is part of a ^200m Christmas investment programme, Network Rail said. Mr Gisby told BBC News: "We've let a lot of people down today I'm afraid, and I can only apologise for that. I've been out and about and have witnessed just the impact that our engineering work has had on passengers at Paddington and King's Cross." He said Network Rail had run about 10,000 trains and had tried to run a "reasonable service" on top of the "necessary" engineering works. "But unfortunately some signalling problems at Paddington have gone badly wrong until early this afternoon, and we had some machinery break down on Christmas Day into Boxing Day, to the north of Kings Cross," he said. A decision was taken on the afternoon of 26 December to put alternative arrangements in place and make an announcement to passengers, he said. "I'd much rather do that and make the call, than hope it all came right," he said. He added Network Rail was doing all it could "not to repeat the dreadful disruption caused today". Previous investigations by the Office of Rail Regulation have led to multi-million pound fines. A spokesman for the regulator said: "The immediate priority is for Network Rail to ensure disrupted parts of the railways are back up and running again for passengers as soon as possible. Network Rail, working with the rest of the industry, must learn lessons and prevent problems like this happening again." The rail operator, East Coast Trains, apologised for the disruption and said tickets would be valid on Sunday services. Its spokesperson said: "Passengers travelling to and from London King's Cross are advised to travel on another day if at all possible." Finsbury Park station was closed for safety reasons for an hour from 11:00 GMT as "significant crowds" had been gathering on the platforms. After the delays at Finsbury Park, East Coast said its "strong advice" to passengers was to defer travel to another date. Saturday's tickets will be valid on Sunday and Monday. For passengers who travel East Coast said it was operating a service every 30 minutes from Finsbury Park - all trains run to Peterborough, then continue either to Leeds, Newcastle or Edinburgh. Great Northern, which also uses King's Cross also advised passengers not to travel on its services on Saturday until further notice. West Coast Main Line services are also not running between London Euston and Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire until 29 December, due to engineering works. Transport Secretary Mr McLoughlin said: "The situation on the railways this weekend has been totally unacceptable. Passengers must be able to trust that vital engineering works on the rail network will be completed on time. I will be asking Network Rail to set out what went wrong and how they can learn lessons, but its priority must be to get services running into Kings Cross as well as Paddington." Labour, meanwhile, accused the government of allowing almost the entire rail network to be shut down on Boxing Day. Shadow transport secretary Michael Dugher said: "Now we see this further unacceptable disruption, just as people try and get home after Christmas." David Sidebottom, passenger director at the watchdog Passenger Focus, said: "Investment in maintenance and improvement is necessary, and we passengers understand that. We will be looking to see that operators and Network Rail are doing all in their power to alert passengers, to help them make alternative arrangements and to make it easy for them to claim refunds or compensation." A Network Rail spokesman said the work was "a small part of a massive amount of engineering investment taking place over Christmas". He said 4.5 million passengers use the railways on average every day, compared with two million a day over the Christmas and New Year holiday. About 300 projects are being undertaken over the holidays across 2,000 sites up and down the country. National Rail said a reduced service to and from London King's Cross was expected to operate on Sunday, but journeys could be retimed and take longer than expected. Trains will leave King's Cross up to 20 minutes earlier than normal, resuming their usual stopping times from Peterborough. Services to King's Cross will arrive up to 40 minutes later than normal. Other services will start or end at Doncaster, Newark North Gate, Peterborough or Stevenage. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 29, 2014, 16:46:30 Pending the Regulator's investigation, calls for sackings. From the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/28/network-rail-must-sack-management-christmas-disruptions-says-nicholas-soames-tory):
Quote Network Rail must sack management over Christmas disruptions ^ Tory MP Sir Nicholas Soames criticises rail leadership for decisions connected to chaos of King^s Cross engineering works and other services Sir Nicholas Soames, the senior Conservative backbencher, has called for sackings at Network Rail, claiming there had been a fundamental breakdown in the management and leadership of Britain^s railway industry. Soames, an MP for Mid Sussex, the heart of the commuter belt, said he was horrified by the travesty of the railway industry^s performance over Christmas, adding he was sure the transport secretary, Patrick McLoughlin, felt a similar sense of outrage. Referring to the passenger chaos over the weekend caused by planned engineering works north of King^s Cross station over-running, he said: ^This is a problem for management and leadership ^ no other commercial organisation would set about this problem without a very clear idea of how they were going to do it, how long it would take, what it was they would use and what would be the finish time. Now they have failed on every single count and I understand that they even got the wrong piece of equipment to the line north of King^s Cross and then the replacement that was sent was wrong. ^Now whoever ordered that needs to be dismissed from service immediately ^ that is just a fundamental breakdown of management and leadership.^ Soames was speaking on London^s LBC Radio as commuters faced further disruption on Sunday, albeit less severe than the previous two days. Services out of Paddington were still disrupted, including Great Western, Heathrow Connect and Heathrow Express. Services to King.s Cross were reopened on Sunday morning. Robin Gisby, Network Rail managing director, network operations, said on Sunday: ^King^s Cross has reopened this morning following completion of yesterday^s late-running work.^ He added: ^I would like to sincerely apologise for the upset and upheaval passengers suffered yesterday as our engineers struggled to complete an essential improvement project that had been months in planning. ^The advertised Sunday timetable for King^s Cross will run today as train operators work to get people home who we^re unable to travel yesterday. ^We now move our focus to completing the handful of other projects still under way without further impact on passengers. We will also begin our investigation into what went wrong with the work at Holloway [north of King^s Cross] and the planning that went into this project.^ Soames accepted railways were not in good shape and do need a lot of attention but he said the work needed to be done in an orderly way. He insisted the railway industry employs ^brilliant engineers but the leadership and management failed to overcome the problems and that is completely and utterly unacceptable. The whole railway industry needs to look at itself.^ He pointed out there had been long-term staffing problems at London Bridge station with a lack of drivers. ^Can you imagine British Airways saying, ^we cannot fly these aeroplanes because we have got no pilot^, so why cannot the railways have enough drivers?^ Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 29, 2014, 17:50:27 Further coverage, from the Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bbf1d960-8e80-11e4-ac79-00144feabdc0.html):
Quote Network Rail faces probe over Christmas travel chaos Network Rail came in for heavy criticism over the Christmas train travel chaos, with Britain^s rail watchdog launching an official investigation into the disruption. The company apologised for the disruption, which cancelled all services out of London^s King^s Cross station on Saturday, delayed services at Paddington and caused two-hour waits at nearby Finsbury Park, which was also closed temporarily because of overcrowding. The closures were caused by over-running engineering works on the east coast mainline into London. Patrick McLoughlin, transport secretary, called the disruption ^unacceptable^. But Labour tried to pin the blame on the government, saying it was the decision to allow most of the rail network to close on Boxing Day that lay behind the chaos. Although services were getting back to normal on Sunday, there were still delays and cancellations at London stations. The Office of Rail Regulation said it would open a formal probe into why the maintenance work had not been completed in time, as well as the quality of information provided to passengers and any compensation owed. ^Network Rail, working with the rest of the industry, must learn lessons and prevent problems like this happening again,^ said an ORR spokesman. ^ORR is investigating over-running works. We will also be reviewing the standard of passenger information during disruptions ^ with a focus on whether passengers have been adequately informed to make alternative arrangements to their journeys or claim compensation.^ Mr McLoughlin said passengers ^must be able to trust that vital engineering works on the rail network will be completed on time. [They] deserve no less.^ He added: ^I will be asking Network Rail to set out what went wrong and how they can learn lessons, but its priority must be to get services running into King^s Cross as well as Paddington.^ Labour accused Mr McLoughlin of passing the buck by blaming Network Rail. Michael Dugher, shadow transport secretary, urged ministers to ^get a grip^. ^Ministers are responsible for piling misery on top of misery for those who have to rely on our railway,^ he said. ^It was the government that allowed almost the entire rail network to be shut down during Boxing Day, one of the busiest bank holidays of the year. Now we see this further unacceptable disruption, just as people try and get home after Christmas and at a time when many of our roads have experienced severe problems because of the bad weather.^ Forecasters were warning of temperatures below freezing all over the country on Sunday night, with widespread night frosts and freezing fog patches expected until the middle of the week. Temperatures are expected to fall to as low as minus 10 Celsius (14 Fahrenheit) overnight, the coldest it has been all year, 24 hours after snowfall affected travellers in parts of northern England, Scotland and the Midlands. With rain expected to clear much of the snow, the transport trouble may switch from rail to the roads, with the Met Office warning motorists to be aware of ice on the roads in all parts of the UK. Network Rail said the work was part of a ^200m Christmas investment programme, with most railways expected to return to normal on January 5. It is one of 300 projects being undertaken over the holidays at 2,000 sites by 11,000 engineers. Network Rail, which controls 2,500 stations as well as Britain^s railway tracks, tunnels, bridges and level crossings, has received repeated criticism for its dismal performance record. Earlier this month Richard Price, chief executive of the ORR, sent a stern letter to the infrastructure operator warning that every element of the business had deteriorated, including punctuality, service reliability and track and signal maintenance. Network Rail is planning to invest ^35bn in the five years to 2019. About ^12.5bn will be spent on improvements including new and upgraded stations, such as London Bridge, electrification and platform lengthening, while a third will be spent on track renewals and a third on running the railways. But the ORR said it was repeatedly missing milestones for the delivery of improvements, putting the company^s credibility as an infrastructure manager at risk. Robin Gisby, managing director of network operations at Network Rail, said: ^The advertised Sunday timetable for King^s Cross will run today as train operators work to get people home who were unable to travel yesterday. We now move our focus to completing the handful of other projects still under way without further impact on passengers. We will also begin our investigation into what went wrong with the work at Holloway [north of King^s Cross] and the planning that went into this project.^ The TSSA rail union called on the government to scrap the compensation scheme for rail companies, which saw them paid ^172m by Network Rail for late trains while passengers only received ^10m. ^It is high time for Patrick McLoughlin to act on the scheme which is rigged in favour of the rail firms against the interests of the passengers,^ it said. ^They get compensation when their trains are a minute late but the poor old passenger has to be an hour late before he or she even qualifies for a full refund. Where is the fairness in that?^ About 60 per cent of Network Rail^s income comes from the Department for Transport, 27.8 per cent from track access charges paid by train operators, and 10.6 per cent from income from property and shops. It spent ^36.2bn operating, renewing and maintaining the tracks in the five years between 2009 and 2014. Meanwhile, the rail minister came under fire for an upbeat Christmas message to her constituents over the repairs programme. ^10,000 Network Rail employees will be working over the holiday period on thousands of projects, carrying out the biggest upgrade of the network since Victorian times,^ Claire Perry had written to her Devizes constituents. ^Someone said politicians are people who, when they see the light at the end of the tunnel, order more tunnel. Well, not any more as big rail projects come to fruition.^ John Spellar, shadow Foreign Office minister, seized on the letter, branding the minister ^Calamity Perry^. He said: ^We^ve had days of unacceptable disruption, with passengers suffering cancellations and miserable delays, and ultimately it will be the taxpayer that foots the bill for this incompetence. This is no way to run the railways,^ Mr Spellar said. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2014, 17:54:14 Are we ok wuoting whole chunks of FT website as its behind a paywall?
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 29, 2014, 18:03:20 Fair point, ChrisB - but my first visit was free, thus enabling me to quote that article. :-\
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on December 29, 2014, 18:14:27 Nice to see MP's politicking from the comfort of their centrally heated country pile, digesting the turkey n stuffing washed down no doubt with a nice drop of red whilst there were rail workers out in the cold, rain and snow surviving on a company supplied burger van and a tin of cola.
I am sure MP's would be warmly welcomed out on site Christmas Day and Boxing Day there are plenty of burgers n chips to share Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ellendune on December 29, 2014, 18:20:46 Why does anyone want people sacked whenever something goes wrong?
There are so few Engineers of that calibre and experience that it is a difficult enough job to fill. I suppose Sir Nicholas Soames thinks you could just have a CEO who was a lawyer or an accountant and that would be fine. I suggest that if you did that you would soon find NR was in complete chaos. If you don't believe me ask yourself whether Gerald Corbett (former CEO of Railtrack) was an Engineer? (Answer: no had a degree in history and had been finance director of Dixons, Redland and Grand Metropolitan). Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: TaplowGreen on December 29, 2014, 18:45:10 Why does anyone want people sacked whenever something goes wrong? There are so few Engineers of that calibre and experience that it is a difficult enough job to fill. I suppose Sir Nicholas Soames thinks you could just have a CEO who was a lawyer or an accountant and that would be fine. I suggest that if you did that you would soon find NR was in complete chaos. If you don't believe me ask yourself whether Gerald Corbett (former CEO of Railtrack) was an Engineer? (Answer: no had a degree in history and had been finance director of Dixons, Redland and Grand Metropolitan). That's because the expertise, strategies and policies come from the Board of Directors, it's not his job to be an expert, a CEO is responsible for giving leadership and ensuring that the plans devised by the Board are executed, and he reports to them......he does however tend to have the biggest profile, exposure and salary, and as such carries the can when it goes base over apex! Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ellendune on December 29, 2014, 19:15:04 Why does anyone want people sacked whenever something goes wrong? There are so few Engineers of that calibre and experience that it is a difficult enough job to fill. I suppose Sir Nicholas Soames thinks you could just have a CEO who was a lawyer or an accountant and that would be fine. I suggest that if you did that you would soon find NR was in complete chaos. If you don't believe me ask yourself whether Gerald Corbett (former CEO of Railtrack) was an Engineer? (Answer: no had a degree in history and had been finance director of Dixons, Redland and Grand Metropolitan). That's because the expertise, strategies and policies come from the Board of Directors, it's not his job to be an expert, a CEO is responsible for giving leadership and ensuring that the plans devised by the Board are executed, and he reports to them......he does however tend to have the biggest profile, exposure and salary, and as such carries the can when it goes base over apex! [irony]And in the case of Railtrack that went just like that didn't it[/irony] So the board decided that the company didn't need Engineers and outsourced almost all of them so they didn't have the advice they needed. When Hatfield occurred they turned to their Chief Operating Officer - who, as an economist was the one who had to take the decisions on speed limits! Having the sense to know the limits of his expertise, he did the only thing he could and shut the network down! Thats what happens when you leave Engineers out of the management of an essentially engineering operation. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on December 29, 2014, 20:43:59 I've been trying to work out some context for the Kings Cross events. While this overrun is one too many, it was the poor contingency planning that was the real scandal. (Arguably the Paddington one was yet another case of collateral damage rather than an overrun, and it is less clear whom to blame for the resulting mess.) Overrunning can never have a zero probability, and should not becuse then you'd take too long to finish anything.
The original plan was to hand back two tracks or 10:00 Saturday and operate with just the up lines until Monday morning. From 7:00 to 10:00 on Saturday GN services would use Finsbury Park instead, with EC terminating at Stevenage, Peterborough, and perhaps other places, as substitutes with GN trains filling the gap from London. (I'm assuming this, which is what happened, was also the original plan.) So when this handover was delayed, the response was to extend this temporary arrangement for the whole of Saturday, but with EC running into Finsbury Park too. From the reports, it seems that there was not enough capacity at Finsbury Park for this to work all day, and that should have been clear at the planning stage. Up to 10:00 it was an OK idea, as EC's services are longer and few arrive by then - so they were mainly dealing with outbound passengers. But later on, while there were surprisingly few cancellations, the delays inside and outside the trains reached several hours. What are the alternatives? For electric trains very few. The theory that there are far fewer passengers at holidays is only really true for commuters - some of EC's routes are a lot busier at over Christmas and new year. So the coping strategy has to be to divert trains into spare commuter-train platforms at other termini. But the routes to do that from the ECML to St. Pancras (which is too small anyway) or Liverpool Street don't exist. Euston is the usual alternative for Scotland, but itself being worked on this year. So I can see why they did what they did - but they may now be deciding with full hindsight that it was a mistake. I can see only one line on the map: the Cannonbury line from Finsbury Park to Hackney and on to Liverpool Street. I suspect it may not be able to take big trains, and has limited capacity. Other than that, it's a case of dragging trains across an unwired gap - such as Peterborough-Ely - or reversing at Hitchin and Cambridge. Both will add time, perhaps as much as an hour for the backtrack, but hardly as bad for passengers as queuing for an hour outside in the cold. If there are not enough diesels lying about, the last is - having eliminated all alternatives - probably what they ought to have had as plan B. Robin Gisby is described as Network Rail managing director, network operation. As such, I'm sure he has no personal responsibility for the overrunning work. However, he must be in charge of setting up, and implementing, contingency plans for overruns. So I imagine his desk must be hard to see for the great heap of bucks stopping on it. Of course the lack of usable diversionary routes is itself an issue - and I suspect a major factor in such works causing more problems here than elsewhere in Europe. After all, they do not have even a one-day shutdown at Christmas, but mostly manage to run a full service (without commuter trains) throughout plus holiday extras. As a footnote, for those who like such things: For some reason it was found necessary to reroute one Hull Trains service (1A93) to St. Pancras. Now there isn't a direct route for that, even with a non-electric train. So they came up with this: a reversal over the flyover at Harringay, then down the curve to Harringay Park on the Tottenham and Hampstead, across to the Midland and through Belsize tunnel, reverse at West Hampstead Thameslink and back through the tunnel to St. Pancras International (domestic). But what was timetabled was even odder - going down the main line to Copenhagen Jn., then segueing onto the North London Incline and through Camden Road and round as far as Gospel Oak, reversing past the station and along the Tottenham and Hampstead past Junction Road Jn. so as to reverse again and follow the original route from there. Still three reversals but longer and more devious. In the event that route was blocked, and this train (on both Saturday and Sunday) ran as originally planned (see http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60007/2014/12/27/advanced). So obviously that's feasible, with a source of power, but hardly counts as a viable plan B or even C or D. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2014, 21:22:31 Surely it's down to individual TOCs as to what contingencies they have for such over runs? NR don't run (passenger) trains
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on December 29, 2014, 21:50:26 Surely it's down to individual TOCs as to what contingencies they have for such over runs? NR don't run (passenger) trains Takes 2 to tango. Yes it is the TOCs that operate the trains, with a major blockade or reduced line access for planned engineering the TOC and NR will agree to where stock is stabled, for example sets were stabled in KX station over Christmas so a quick start to services could happen; this could then lead to a shortage of stock if it gets locked in because of an overrun. So when "the plan" falls apart a lot of on the fly thinking has to be done, there can be other complications like engineering trains blocking lines and an underestimation on the number of people wanting to travel hence announcing passengers should go to an unsuitable station when the perhaps in hindsight the best announcement should have been only travel if it is essential, I am sure the intent was an honourable one with perhaps the overrun overrunning longer than originally thought. There is this thing called the Swiss Cheese Model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model which I suspect will sum up both the KX and Padd engineering overruns, it is unlikely to be down to one thing or person Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on December 30, 2014, 00:10:39 Surely it's down to individual TOCs as to what contingencies they have for such over runs? NR don't run (passenger) trains TOCs obviously have a final say as to what they can operate. And for GN, terminating short at Finsbury Park is almost their sole business - it's their station, after all. But EC have a number of options, all using stations managed by others (mainly GN). But timetabling is NR's role, as I suspect is deciding who gets to use restricted capacity. And if you listen to Robin Gisby's interview (posted here http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15088.msg168066#msg168066) he makes NR's central role clear in his wording. He heads up NR's interface with the TOCs, so his job is to provide a network for running trains on - and, if he can't, to offer alternatives wherever possible (7-day railway and all that). And, pragmatically, if a contingency plan needs to be implemented in a few hours, the cooperation between TOCs (and with TfL) will need to be centrally managed by someone, or it won't happen quickly enough. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on December 30, 2014, 08:51:57 Availability of track, sidings and access to stations is NRs responsibility.
Timtabling, staff & stock availability is the TOCs respondibility. NR will validate TOCs timtable, yes, but just to ensure it can wirk across what NR make available. The TOC will however produce the timetable Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: TaplowGreen on December 30, 2014, 08:57:43 Availability of track, sidings and access to stations is NRs responsibility. Timtabling, staff & stock availability is the TOCs respondibility. NR will validate TOCs timtable, yes, but just to ensure it can wirk across what NR make available. The TOC will however produce the timetable You can add stock reliability to the TOC list too.........I say this having just had a call from a pal on the first PLY-PAD of the day which has just fallen over (again) and is being terminated at Bristol! Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on December 30, 2014, 09:04:17 Yep, just had a Journeycheck alert for its cancellation further towards the Thames Valley!
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: bobm on December 30, 2014, 09:37:03 Ironically, although it is the first to leave Plymouth (05:09), it is not the first timetabled to arrive in London. I was on the 05:30 yesterday and it was very sparsely populated. The 05:09 goes via Bristol and the 05:30 via Melksham, putting it 20 minutes in front.
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: TaplowGreen on December 30, 2014, 10:15:34 Ironically, although it is the first to leave Plymouth (05:09), it is not the first timetabled to arrive in London. I was on the 05:30 yesterday and it was very sparsely populated. The 05:09 goes via Bristol and the 05:30 via Melksham, putting it 20 minutes in front. V busy on a regular Monday morning though! Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Jason on January 06, 2015, 08:38:45 There was a full page apology in The Times this morning for the events of the 27th
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2015, 18:27:06 From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30778488):
Quote Rail disruption caused by bad planning, Network Rail says Equipment failure and bad planning for delays caused the disruption to rail travellers over Christmas, a report by Network Rail has said. Thousands of passengers had their journeys disrupted when work near King's Cross took longer than planned. Trains were switched to Finsbury Park, a much smaller station. "Not enough was done" in planning the switch, said the report, which included an apology from Mark Carne, Network Rail's chief executive. Work near London's Paddington station finished on time, but a safety check took eight hours longer than planned. "A number of things went wrong in these two instances. In addition it is clear that our project back-up plans and the train service plans should have done a much better job in protecting the travelling public from our engineering problems," Mr Carne said. "Over Christmas, we undertook the biggest programme of engineering and investment work ever, on train lines across the country. Ninety-nine per cent went to plan but in the case of King's Cross and Paddington we let passengers down. "I sincerely apologise for the disruption over the festive period and we are determined to learn the lessons so that we can continue to make the improvements the travelling public deserve." Work should have been finished allowing King's Cross and Paddington to open on 27 December. But King's Cross had to close all day while Paddington only opened in the early afternoon. Network Rail said that, by 10:30 on 27 December, Finsbury Park had become so crowded that incoming passengers could not get off their trains. Rail travellers had to queue for as much as three hours to get into the station. The row over the delays led to Mr Carne renouncing his annual bonus, which could have been as much as ^135,000. "On the basis of this report and the events on the day the industry has a long way to go to restore trust in how it handles these events," said Anthony Smith, chief executive of the rail customer watchdog Passenger Focus. Network Rail says it will review how it plans for over-runs and will "provide better information to passengers". The Network Rail report is no longer available at http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Gallery/Christmas-2014-passenger-disruption-report-2208.aspx Edit note: See posts below for explanation. CfN. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on January 12, 2015, 19:53:43 This is worth reading, a well presented report with I feel sufficient detail to inform the layman and those who know how railway project work to understand where things went astray and where the lessons need to be learnt.
It is I feel quite frank and open. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on January 12, 2015, 20:17:08 I was interested to note this in Mark Carne's Foreword:
Quote The timing of these events, over the Christmas holidays, has also made us question traditional thinking. While our industry has historically seen the ^quieter times^ of railway use as the natural time to carry out essential project works, I believe that it is appropriate to challenge some of this thinking. Passengers who use the railway during holidays to connect with friends and family also deserve reliable and predictable services. That is the thought behind a second review that we have already announced, following discussions with the Secretary of State. This will be independently led and will report through the industry^s Rail Delivery Group. As I said earlier, it's the commuter lines that are less busy, so quite a lot needs to be done to take that spare capacity and run a suitable, robust, service for the holiday travellers - and suitable may mean more trains than normal, on some days. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on January 12, 2015, 21:45:33 I think he's referring to doing more work around the year, less at Christmas. Not necessarily persuading the TOCs to run more services, which they can't really do
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on January 12, 2015, 22:27:56 Compressing all the work into a few major weekends (Christmas, Easter, August and to a lesser extent the May Bank Holidays) skews the market, resources are getting booked further and further out often over booked.
The pain will be more weekends at other times of the year, perhaps with shutdowns commencing at 22:00 Friday through to 04:00 Monday to get some of these big jobs done, that's not to say the traditional holiday shutdowns will go. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on January 12, 2015, 23:01:15 I think he's referring to doing more work around the year, less at Christmas. Not necessarily persuading the TOCs to run more services, which they can't really do I hope he (and the report's authors) don't prejudge the conclusions. Today's report does say that closing Euston and King's Cross at once was a plan with an obvious flaw in it, when the overrun happened. In addition, piling so many big projects into those two days meant using almost every driver there was, so there were none spare, and closing the railway in general hampered train movements. And they can't really say that wasn't predictable. There is also mention of a recovery plan that was rejected - for want of drivers, mainly - pulling all the engineering trains out and using the two intact tracks to run the service by day, and coming back to finish the work by night. I hope that gets serious consideration as a way of using the full commuter lull (ten days), or maybe August (as was suggested in another thread), for major works. And of course just doing more in weekends, if nothing else proves workable. Given the excess cost of trying to do everything at once in holiday weekends, or in tiny slices overnight, all sorts of other approaches might be viable when you (or rather they) look closer. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: ChrisB on January 13, 2015, 10:20:01 I hope he (and the report's authors) don't prejudge the conclusions. Not sure what you mean by "prejudge"? This is the report & has its conclusions, which the authors & Mark Carne are commenting on. So surely it's already "judged", not being "prejudged"? Page 18.....wow. You have to wonder just how NR got themselves into this mess. They sourced a load of cranes. They also sourced a load of *new* "log grabs", which appear to be bits that go on to the end of a crane's jib in order to allow it to pick up scrap rail. They even had a spare one, and an on-site fitter. But they didn't test in advance that these log grabs actually worked on these jibs, and when it came to it the hydraulic joints couldn't be made pressure-tight and all the cranes started leaking fluid and losing pressure. And that's game over: they were unable to clear scrap rail, and it all goes down hill from there. Given that these cranes are road-rail vehicles, and the business end of a small crane's jib is hardly new technology, sensible engineers would do, you would think, a quick acceptance test and make sure that there hadn't been a "whoops, the fittings are the wrong size" cockup on ordering brand new, untested grabs, and perhaps bolt on in the yard and spin it around and check it works. NR, however, didn't do any testing until Christmas day, by which time it was all too late. The onsite fitter couldn't bodge the connectors, and from then on they were b*ggered: they were running late, so the engineering trains ran late, so the drivers timed out, so they didn't have spare drivers available, etc, etc. Quote However, as noted above, the project had been cascading train drivers throughout the day and, shortly after midnight, the supply of new drivers to support this cascade, ran out. There was one remaining driver and five engineering trains still on-site and this was the point at which the project started to rapidly lose time. Whilst all the drivers involved were cooperative and committed to completing the project, they reached their maximum shift duration limits, which for safety reasons cannot be exceeded. Ten minutes' testing would have found that the hoses didn't fit the jibs in advance. Then the railways ran out of railway staff, and had no plan to obtain more. They didn't have enough drivers to handle the workload when recovering from the contingency they'd built in. Contingency which isn't resourced isn't contingency. Quote With only one driver and five trains spread out over the length of the site, progress on site slowed to a crawl as trains were in the wrong place to support the planned pace of work. This was compounded by the mechanical failure of one of the ballast wagons which failed in such a way that it could not be moved for a number of hours. The lessons learned are shameful. Point 2 is just a disgrace: Quote Contractors will be required to test any new equipment in an off-the-railway environment before it is used on live railway work. How can you call yourself an engineer and not have some idea that the live workplace, with massive time pressures, at time on Christmas Eve, is not the time to test out whether previously untried equipment works? Seriously? And similarly point 5: Quote Engineering train crew and contingency at times of peak work will be treated with the same level of nationwide cross-project scrutiny and planning as other resources in short supply, such as signal testers and overhead line engineers." Is the whole point of contingency planning that you evaluate all the things that might fail, and decide to reduce, mitigate, transfer or accept the risk? Does it really take a genius, or bitter experience, to realise that having people to drive the engineering trains is quite important, and without them you're b*ggered? Edit note: Quote marks fixed, for clarity. CfN. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on January 13, 2015, 16:24:39 I hope he (and the report's authors) don't prejudge the conclusions. Not sure what you mean by "prejudge"? This is the report & has its conclusions, which the authors & Mark Carne are commenting on. So surely it's already "judged", not being "prejudged"? Page 18.....wow. You have to wonder just how NR got themselves into this mess. They sourced a load of cranes. They also sourced a load of *new* "log grabs", which appear to be bits that go on to the end of a crane's jib in order to allow it to pick up scrap rail. They even had a spare one, and an on-site fitter. But they didn't test in advance that these log grabs actually worked on these jibs, and when it came to it the hydraulic joints couldn't be made pressure-tight and all the cranes started leaking fluid and losing pressure. And that's game over: they were unable to clear scrap rail, and it all goes down hill from there. Given that these cranes are road-rail vehicles, and the business end of a small crane's jib is hardly new technology, sensible engineers would do, you would think, a quick acceptance test and make sure that there hadn't been a "whoops, the fittings are the wrong size" cockup on ordering brand new, untested grabs, and perhaps bolt on in the yard and spin it around and check it works. NR, however, didn't do any testing until Christmas day, by which time it was all too late. The onsite fitter couldn't bodge the connectors, and from then on they were b*ggered: they were running late, so the engineering trains ran late, so the drivers timed out, so they didn't have spare drivers available, etc, etc. Quote However, as noted above, the project had been cascading train drivers throughout the day and, shortly after midnight, the supply of new drivers to support this cascade, ran out. There was one remaining driver and five engineering trains still on-site and this was the point at which the project started to rapidly lose time. Whilst all the drivers involved were cooperative and committed to completing the project, they reached their maximum shift duration limits, which for safety reasons cannot be exceeded. Ten minutes' testing would have found that the hoses didn't fit the jibs in advance. Then the railways ran out of railway staff, and had no plan to obtain more. They didn't have enough drivers to handle the workload when recovering from the contingency they'd built in. Contingency which isn't resourced isn't contingency. Quote With only one driver and five trains spread out over the length of the site, progress on site slowed to a crawl as trains were in the wrong place to support the planned pace of work. This was compounded by the mechanical failure of one of the ballast wagons which failed in such a way that it could not be moved for a number of hours. The lessons learned are shameful. Point 2 is just a disgrace: Quote Contractors will be required to test any new equipment in an off-the-railway environment before it is used on live railway work. How can you call yourself an engineer and not have some idea that the live workplace, with massive time pressures, at time on Christmas Eve, is not the time to test out whether previously untried equipment works? Seriously? And similarly point 5: Quote Engineering train crew and contingency at times of peak work will be treated with the same level of nationwide cross-project scrutiny and planning as other resources in short supply, such as signal testers and overhead line engineers." Is the whole point of contingency planning that you evaluate all the things that might fail, and decide to reduce, mitigate, transfer or accept the risk? Does it really take a genius, or bitter experience, to realise that having people to drive the engineering trains is quite important, and without them you're b*ggered? I cannot understand how they got to use these grabs with out product acceptance, I have been through pain worse than wisdom teeth recently trying to get a manipulator altered to put OLE stovepipes up. There are some very well know "critical" resources OLE linesmen, S & T Tester in Charge, HV Distribution nominated persons, and yes train drivers. We (the railways) are in state where a driver can turn up to an engineering train as say sorry mate not passed out on that traction or route or both!!! Edit note: Quote marks fixed, for clarity. CfN. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: SandTEngineer on January 13, 2015, 22:04:40 NR has quietly changed the report since it was first issued (and apparently not told anybody: I wonder if the National Press have noticed?). A number of people have pointed out various errors and discrepancies in the original, the KX possession Map Fig 5 being one of them. This showed lines under possession that were closed over 50 years ago :o ::) :P
Personally I think its a very poor response. It would have been better if NR had put its hands up and admit that it (not its contractors) c****d it up big time and honestly stated that it wanted to learn from the mistakes rather than keep repeating the mantra about 'building a better railway' which is wearing a bit thin >:( ....oh and the bit about the 'best practice' planning software that showed all of the possessions coming in on time at 95% probability. I have been on several projects like that where the work plan has been 'manipulated to fit' so that the project manager can show that the work should go ahead as to defer it would cost ^s. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 13, 2015, 22:42:05 Thanks for your comments, SandTEngineer. ;)
The Network Rail report is available at http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Gallery/Christmas-2014-passenger-disruption-report-2208.aspx The link to the Network Rail report which I quoted previously no longer works: their (apparently revised) report is now available at http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/News-Releases/Network-Rail-publishes-Christmas-passenger-disruption-investigation-report-2231.aspx ::) Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: SandTEngineer on January 14, 2015, 16:38:19 Apologies CfN I meant to add the new link to my post but got overcome by frustration with the NR approach in the report :P
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 14, 2015, 20:31:01 No worries with your very interesting post, SandTEngineer. ;D
However, I do have some issues with Network Rail apparently trying to rewrite their corporate excuses in that report. ::) Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Electric train on January 14, 2015, 21:49:50 No worries with your very interesting post, SandTEngineer. ;D However, I do have some issues with Network Rail apparently trying to rewrite their corporate excuses in that report. ::) Don't slate them to hard, they (the Board) have managed to get a report out on the incidents into the public domain in a matter of days what other "public" undertaking achieves that, they could have spent weeks if not months reviewing it to death before sneaking it out. Especially given that last week many of the contractors and NR staff were taking TOIL for working Christmas Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 14, 2015, 22:34:05 The UK Parliament website (http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/transport-committee/news/railway-disruption-ev-session/) has coverage of Mark Carne and Robin Gisby giving evidence to the Commons Select Committee, earlier today.
Quote This is a one-off evidence session which considered the over-running engineering works at King^s Cross and Paddington on the weekend of 27/28 December. The Committee took evidence from Network Rail, and then from the rail regulator, the Office of Rail Regulation. Parliament TV: Railway network disruption over Christmas Inquiry: Railway network disruption over Christmas Transport Committee Witnesses Wednesday 14 January 2015, Thatcher Room, Portcullis House At 2.05pm Mark Carne, Chief Executive, Network Rail Robin Gisby, Managing Director, Network Operations, Network Rail At 2.50pm Richard Price, Chief Executive, Office of Rail Regulation Joanna Whittington, Director, Railway Markets and Economics, Office of Rail Regulation Likely topics for discussion include: The causes for the over-running engineering works at King^s Cross and Paddington; the contingency planning for these overruns, and the use of Finsbury Park station in place of King^s Cross; the level of information and support offered to passengers; and the Office of Rail Regulation^s review into the overrunning engineering works. The session was originally scheduled for 7 January, but was rearranged following a request from Network Rail, to allow the session to be informed by the report commissioned by Mark Carne from Dr Francis Paonessa, Network Rail infrastructure projects director. Dr Paonessa^s report, which is due to be published on Friday, will cover the sequence of events and associated decision making that led to the problems experienced, and make recommendations on immediate steps to be taken by Network Rail to improve delivery of engineering works. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on February 12, 2015, 19:44:01 The ORR published their investigation report (http://file:///D:/Stuart/Topics/Travel/trains/Problems/investigation-report-2015-02-12.pdf) today, and issued this press release (http://orr.gov.uk/news-and-media/press-releases/2015/passengers-must-be-at-heart-of-rail-planning):
Quote Passengers must be at heart of rail planning 12 February 2015 The rail industry must place passengers at the heart of enhanced contingency planning for overrunning engineering works, the rail regulator today concluded following its investigation into overruns at King's Cross and Paddington in December 2014. The Office of Rail Regulation (ORR) launched an investigation after more than 115,000 passengers were affected by overrunning engineering works when travelling into or out of King's Cross and Paddington stations between 27 and 28 December 2014. ORR's investigation was aimed at learning lessons with a view to preventing similar disruption happening again. It was informed by direct feedback from passengers, evidence from Passenger Focus, London TravelWatch, Network Rail, and all of the affected train operators. Network Rail delivered more than 98% of the complex engineering works planned for the Christmas and New Year period on time. However, ORR's detailed analysis showed that there were significant weaknesses in the planning and oversight of the King's Cross and Paddington works, and how communication was managed when overruns occurred. The plans failed to put the impact on passengers at the centre of decision making, and this meant the service passengers received during the course of disruption was not acceptable and led to widespread confusion, frustration, discomfort and anxiety. Network Rail needs to continue undertaking large-scale engineering projects in order to renew and enhance Britain's railways. The effective planning, management and communication of this work is essential to the delivery of a safe and reliable railway. ORR is setting out requirements that ensure Network Rail, working with train operators, develops clear contingency plans which help passengers if works overrun, and that if needed, the plans are implemented in a timely and effective way: Improved planning for potential overruns of engineering works. Passengers' needs, welfare and safety at a time of disruption must be at the heart of Network Rail's and train operators' contingency arrangements. Effective oversight of engineering work possessions and communications. Network Rail should ensure the key decision points for continuing with critical stages of planned works, and implementation of contingency plans are understood by all parties involved. Network Rail with support from train operators should review arrangements for managing the control of an overrun incident, with a command structure covering all elements of an incident including train planning, station management and communication with passengers. The impact of an overrun on passengers can in some part be mitigated by accurate and timely information. The industry now has plans in place to further improve passenger information. The train operator plans, including dates for delivery, need to be published so that passengers can be confident that change will be delivered and ORR can monitor against them. Network Rail is reviewing all contingency plans for works scheduled over Easter and the May 2015 bank holidays. ORR expects Network Rail to have implemented all the recommendations, including those which require work with train operators, in advance of the Christmas 2015 engineering works. The regulator will audit their implementation to make sure the improvements are all in place. Joanna Whittington, ORR's director railway markets and economics and the investigation lead, said: "Network Rail has rightly acknowledged it didn't do enough for passengers affected by overrunning engineering works at King's Cross and Paddington this Christmas. While the company generally has a good record for delivering engineering work on time, in this instance passengers were really let down. "Our investigation found that contingency planning did not fully consider the impact of potential overruns on passengers and that this needs to change. In future, plans will address the impact on passengers as well as engineering and train operation issues. Network Rail cannot achieve this alone, train operators will also need to play their part. "Network Rail has committed to ensuring all work undertaken this Easter has a contingency plan which is fit for purpose, and to implement all recommendations in time for engineering works planned over Christmas 2015. ORR will audit its progress, to ensure that passengers' needs and safety are central to Network Rail's and train operator contingency arrangements." I don't think the report is very informative, compared with NR's quite detailed blow-by-blow account of what went wrong. The ORR have essentially agreed with what NR have said, including their admission that they got it seriously wrong. Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: SandTEngineer on February 12, 2015, 22:52:44 The report does state that the investigation is not complete and that further investigation is taking place under the H&S Act into the 'Safety' issues identified.
Title: Re: Rail regulator to investigate rail work delay chaos Post by: stuving on February 12, 2015, 23:59:04 The report does state that the investigation is not complete and that further investigation is taking place under the H&S Act into the 'Safety' issues identified. Indeed, and that includes the health and safety of passengers. In fact this report does have rather more to say about what passengers experienced or suffered, and how the ToCs managed the situation - NR's report obviously didn't pass judgement in those areas. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |