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Title: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on April 23, 2014, 16:53:31 ::) Very disappointing to read this http://www.cornishman.co.uk/Delayed-return-service-west-Cornwall-s-300-open/story-20999238-detail/story.html
- surely it would have been possible to run it at Easter and then say 3 days a week until May half term if Cornwall Council want to cut costs - concentrating the passengers may even have helped reach a break even situation ? So much for open for business. Cornwall bus services appear to be returning to dark days of 1980' s. Edit note: Broken link fixed. CfN. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Southern Stag on April 23, 2014, 18:16:47 It's unfortunate that it didn't run this Easter as with the generally good weather I'm sure it would have been busy.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: bobm on April 23, 2014, 18:40:28 Having travelled on it last year when it was so wet the water even leaked into the downstairs saloon, I would love to travel on it in decent weather.
I am surprised they didn't run it in connection with the bus enthusiasts' day they had in Penzance on Easter Day. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on April 23, 2014, 20:47:16 Having travelled on it last year when it was so wet the water even leaked into the downstairs saloon, I would love to travel on it in decent weather. I am surprised they didn't run it in connection with the bus enthusiasts' day they had in Penzance on Easter Day. L637SEU did. All journeys on the day were free of charge. I had a thoroughly enjoyable day out (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/13930554156_2225c5b3d0.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/82289286@N06/13930554156/) L637SEU (https://www.flickr.com/photos/82289286@N06/13930554156/) My full set of pics from the day can be found here in my flickr album from the day. https://www.flickr.com/photos/82289286@N06/sets/72157644187284803/with/13930554156/ Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on April 26, 2014, 07:10:01 From internal rumours, it seems the 300 will only be between Landsend and St Ives (& v.v).
Possibly the 17b will run from St Ives/Holiday village, Marazion, Pz & back; with additional 1/1a services. All change at Landsend and St Ives. No concession cards (or possibly reduced fare on concessions) on the actual 300. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on April 26, 2014, 07:12:19 An additional rumour is for a Marazion to Mousehole Coastguard run via the Penzance sea front, not via the town centre. That won't be a 300 of course.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: bobm on April 26, 2014, 08:26:31 From internal rumours, it seems the 300 will only be between Landsend and St Ives (& v.v). Possibly the 17b will run from St Ives/Holiday village, Marazion, Pz & back; with additional 1/1a services. All change at Landsend and St Ives. No concession cards (or possibly reduced fare on concessions) on the actual 300. From the latest issue of Notices & Proceedings (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/303685/np-2501-15-april-2014.pdf) Quote PH0004983/472 FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW , PLYMOUTH PL9 7JT From: Lands End To: St Ives Via: St Just, Pendeen, Zennor Name or No: 300 Service Type: Normal Stopping Effective Date: 24-May-2014 End Date: 31-Aug-2014 Other Details: Daily until 31 August 2014. Quote PH0004983/170 FIRST DEVON & CORNWALL LTD, THE RIDE, CHELSON MEADOW , PLYMOUTH PL9 7JT Operating between PENZANCE Bus Station and LANDS END given service number 1/1A effective from 24-May-2014. To amend Timetable. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on April 29, 2014, 18:24:45 This year's timetable (until end Sept.) is now available on first group website under forthcoming timetables. The route will operate PNZ - SIV - St Just- Land's End as in recent years.
UPDATE the timetable has now been removed from website - recast of route now looks correct. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on April 29, 2014, 18:37:20 Its always been registered as two services
A Penzance to Lands End and Lands End to St Ives. It is officially a connecting service at Lands End where the connecting bus is the one just arrived from the other route. I believe this relates to the distance due to the EU restrictions on service bus route length. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on April 29, 2014, 18:46:12 Its always been registered as two services This would explain why the new timetable shows the route as split at St Ives, although perhaps this allows St Ives - Penzance section to be operated by non open top vehicle if they are short of stock ?A Penzance to Lands End and Lands End to St Ives. It is officially a connecting service at Lands End where the connecting bus is the one just arrived from the other route. I believe this relates to the distance due to the EU restrictions on service bus route length. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Brucey on April 29, 2014, 20:40:39 Does anyone know (roughly) what the fares are like on this service? I'm down in Penzance at the start of June with a Ride Cornwall ticket but want to do the trip to Lands End before 9am.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on April 29, 2014, 21:07:08 Does anyone know (roughly) what the fares are like on this service? I'm down in Penzance at the start of June with a Ride Cornwall ticket but want to do the trip to Lands End before 9am. I've read somewhere the only fare available is the hop on off ticket at ^10. I can find no formal price structure, Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 02, 2014, 21:06:44 An additional rumour is for a Marazion to Mousehole Coastguard run via the Penzance sea front, not via the town centre. That won't be a 300 of course. This is pretty much what L637SEU ran on the running day, Seen this today in Penzance (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/13904242678_7552bb05c6_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3)Open Top bus axed from Penzance (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people/82289286@N06/), on Flickr Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: chrisoates on May 02, 2014, 22:48:48 An additional rumour is for a Marazion to Mousehole Coastguard run via the Penzance sea front, not via the town centre. That won't be a 300 of course. This is pretty much what L637SEU ran on the running day, Seen this today in Penzance (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/13904242678_7552bb05c6_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3)Open Top bus axed from Penzance (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people/82289286@N06/), on Flickr Route is no longer listed at Firstgroup website. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 03, 2014, 07:05:00 An additional rumour is for a Marazion to Mousehole Coastguard run via the Penzance sea front, not via the town centre. That won't be a 300 of course. This is pretty much what L637SEU ran on the running day, Seen this today in Penzance (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/13904242678_7552bb05c6_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3)Open Top bus axed from Penzance (https://flic.kr/p/nbESW3) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people/82289286@N06/), on Flickr Route is no longer listed at Firstgroup website. It hasn't been listed all winter. Looks like a false alarm by the media. http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/devon_cornwall/journey_planning/service_300/ This says Penzance to lands end will be operated by route 1 which will also be open top. Almost certainly sounds like the renumbering is down to the 50km eu rules. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Brucey on May 03, 2014, 07:07:28 Route is no longer listed at Firstgroup website. It hasn't been listed all winter. I also have the PDF timetable downloaded. It showed the 300 operating the entire route, so I assume they are making changes to "merge" it with the 17. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 03, 2014, 18:21:53 First Kernow have just posted the following on their Facebook Page
Quote Recent local media reports are creating a belief that a big cut in additional seasonal bus services in West Cornwall this year is planned, particularly in respect of open top services. This simply is untrue. There are changes planned, and these are explained here, with the key reasons for those changes:- ^ In previous years, First Kernow has operated the 300 route, running as a circular linking St Ives, Marazion (for St Michael^s Mount), Penzance, Lands End and then via the north coast back to St Ives ^ Although undoubtedly popular on fine days, demand fluctuates significantly according to the weather. The service has struggled overall to cover the costs of the resources needed to run it ^ Two events have occurred this year which contribute to our review of the service. The first is Cornwall Council^s understandable decision to withdraw support funding for the early (Easter to Whitsun) and late (September) season of operation, due to its budgetary constraints. The second is that seasonal services run primarily for tourism purposes do not automatically qualify for concessionary fare reimbursement, and the Council has advised it will not pay us for accepting passes on the service. This is expected to have a significant adverse impact on the numbers travelling ^ We therefore have constructed a plan which improves the overall efficiency of the operation by eliminating duplication between the regular and open top services where they run in parallel. This actually has enabled us to bolster the service coverage on the most popular sections of the route ^ The former 300 circular route will now be served in three separate sections:- - St Ives ^ Marazion ^ Penzance (17B), every hour each way - Penzance ^ Lands End (1/1A), every hour each way - Lands End ^ St Just ^ St Ives (300), 3 journeys each way per day ^ Most journeys on 17B and 1/1A will be run with open top buses, giving a higher frequency of open top service than last year and before ^ For 2014, we are trialling the use of a vintage double deck bus on the 300 serving the north coast route between Lands End and St Ives. In fine weather, we may switch this to open top operation ^ Concessionary passes will be fully valid on 1/1A and 17B, but not on 300, although we will offer a commercial, non-subsidised discount to passholders wishing to travel ^ Services will connect across Penzance and Lands End in both directions, allowing customers to continue their journey around the circular route formed by these three services Timetables will be published on our website very shortly. We are also producing a West Cornwall Explorers guide which will be available for when the 300 route launches for the summer from 24 May (and will also include the 1/1A and 17/17B) What vintage double deckers do First have? Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Southern Stag on May 04, 2014, 01:03:10 The majority of the open top fleet would probably qualify as vintage itself. Most of the fleet are Volvo Citybuses built in 1986/87. I don't think there's many Volvo Citybuses left in service around the UK. I guess that's not what First mean though.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 04, 2014, 09:31:02 The majority of the open top fleet would probably qualify as vintage itself. Most of the fleet are Volvo Citybuses built in 1986/87. I don't think there's many Volvo Citybuses left in service around the UK. I guess that's not what First mean though. I was assuming VRs or Leyland Olympians, but not aware of them having any, unless they will be running in conjunction with a preservation group. Saying that most of the deckers down here in everyday use are touching on being vintage! Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on May 04, 2014, 11:23:12 Somewhat surprised about the use of vintage double Decker on 300 North coast route - surely a big part of the attraction of this service is the open top element ? Will only 3 trips a day be able to cope with peak school holiday loadings, depending on level of discounted fare offered to pass holders.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on May 04, 2014, 12:06:08 ??? Just viewed the 2014 timetable on traveline site - the timings from St Ives are not great, 0915 service is a bit too early IMO and 1315 too late for day trips to Land's End ( these are weekday services) Sunday / Bank Hol timetables are better as 4 trips Inc. 1035 ex St Ives.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 04, 2014, 15:46:24 ??? Just viewed the 2014 timetable on traveline site - the timings from St Ives are not great, 0915 service is a bit too early IMO and 1315 too late for day trips to Land's End ( these are weekday services) Sunday / Bank Hol timetables are better as 4 trips Inc. 1035 ex St Ives. 0915 is great for the majority who want a full day out, but from your username and your "IMO" I'm assuming not the case for you then. ::) Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on May 07, 2014, 16:21:28 Staff hearing a vintage bus with a crash box will be running between St Ives & Landsend, and back. A driver and conductor, with each swapping around at the 'other' end. Current proposals are for that section to be an 11 hour duty.
Not sure how a 1/1a discharging 60 odd people at Landsend plus those staying over at Landsend are going to fit on a 40 or so seater. Assuming the vintage is going to able to take the strain of such hard work! Mayhem springs to mind.... Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 07, 2014, 17:19:43 09:15 departure may be a clever timing to get concession-holders to pay full fare.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on May 07, 2014, 17:23:31 From the sounds of the First publicity, concessions will pay at all times. How much remains to be seen!
Try explaining that to concessions who have been used to free travel after 09h30 weekdays........... Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 07, 2014, 18:13:27 09:15 departure may be a clever timing to get concession-holders to pay full fare. Concessions aren't to be accepted on the 300. Concessions are not valid on services intended for use as a Tourism service. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 07, 2014, 19:13:19 Staff hearing a vintage bus with a crash box will be running between St Ives & Landsend, and back. A driver and conductor, with each swapping around at the 'other' end. Current proposals are for that section to be an 11 hour duty. Not sure how a 1/1a discharging 60 odd people at Landsend plus those staying over at Landsend are going to fit on a 40 or so seater. Assuming the vintage is going to able to take the strain of such hard work! Mayhem springs to mind.... The CityBus open toppers are 82 seater, so if they turn up full we will need 2 times that capacity on the vintage decker. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 16, 2014, 23:30:02 Looks like it will be a Bristol Lodekka on the st Ives to Lands End route from today's facebook posting by first. They've blanked the registration out so no idea as yet which one.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Brucey on May 17, 2014, 07:53:00 The timetable for the 300 is now online (http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/devon_cornwall/journey_planning/timetables/timetable.php?day=1&source_id=3&service=300&routeid=2327211&operator=6&source=sp). I see there are only three services per day, in each direction, between Lands End and St Ives.
I have contacted First Cornwall to see if Ride Cornwall tickets are accepted on this bus. (The website says all First buses in Cornwall, so we'll see what they say) Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on May 17, 2014, 10:35:28 Major changes posted by First
Details of our service changes in mid and west Cornwall from Sunday 1 June 2014 (service 1/1A and 300 change from 24 May): Service 1/1A (Penzance - Lands End) We have increased the frequency to offer up to two buses an hour during the summer period (24 May - 31 August inclusive). During this summer season we hope to run an open top on these routes most of the time. Service 1 travels between Penzance and Lands End via Newlyn, Lamorna, St Buryan, Sennen and Sennen Cove. Service 1A travels between Penzance and Lands End via Newlyn, Lamorna, St Buryan, Treen and Porthcurno. Service U1 (Falmouth Campus - Penryn Campus) This service is withdrawn, but alternative facilities are available on services 41, Falmouth - Redruth and 88, Falmouth - Newquay via Truro. Service 2 (Falmouth - Penzance via Helston) Cornwall Council contract changes have resulted in minor alterations to the Monday to Saturday timetable. The 'short' journeys on Sundays and on public holidays between Goldsithney and Penzance will be withdrawn until Sunday 31 August 2014 inclusive, apart from the 0905hrs Perran Cross Roads to Penzance Bus Station journey. Alternative facilities will be available on new service 17B (Penzance - St Ives via Marazion). Services 2 and 17B will provide a co-ordinated 30 minute frequency between Marazion and Penzance town centre on Monday to Saturday (except public holidays) daytimes until Saturday 30 August 2014 inclusive. Service 5 (Lamorna - Penzance) All journeys on service 5 will be renumbered either 1B via Alverton, Rope Walk or 1C via Newlyn Coombe at the request of Cornwall Council. Service 1C journeys will no longer serve Roscadghill Parc but alternative facilities will be available on services 11 and 16A. A new 'shopperbus' facility will be provided on Monday to Saturday (except public holidays) from Lansdowne Estate, Boswergy to Penzance town centre departing at 1056hrs and returning from Green Market at 1328hrs. Service 6 (Mousehole - Penzance) Additional journeys will operate on Sunday and public holidays until Sunday 31 August 2014 providing a bus every 30 minutes between Mousehole Old Coastguard Hotel and Penzance Bus Station via Newlyn between 0905hrs and 1735hrs. Services 10/10A (Morvah - Penzance) Cornwall Council contract changes have resulted in minor alterations. Service 10A journeys will no longer serve Roscadghill Parc though alternative facilities will be available on services 11 and 16A. The 0610hrs Penzance Bus Station to St Just Bus Terminus and the 0638hrs St Just Bus Terminus to Madron Trelawney Estate journeys on Monday to Friday will be withdrawn due to very low customer demand. An additional 0640hrs Penzance Bus Station to Madron Trelawney Estate journey will operate on Monday to Friday. Service 11 (Penzance Town Service) New service 11 will operate hourly on Monday to Saturday daytime between 0900hrs and 1725hrs between Eastern Green Sainsburys and Roscadghill Parc via Penzance Bus Station, Penzance Town Centre and Pendennis Road. Manor Way will be served once on every return journey to and from Roscadghill Parc. Service 16A, Penzance - St Ives, will provide a morning peak journey on Monday to Saturday from Roscadghill Parc to Penzance Bus Station and an evening peak journey from Penzance Bus Station to Roscadghill Parc via the service 11 routing, including Manor Way. Services 13/13A (Camborne - Penzance) All journeys on service 13 will be renumbered 39A and all journeys on service 13A will be renumbered 39B at the request of Cornwall Council. Services 14/14A/18 (St Ives/Penzance - Truro via Hayle, Camborne and Redruth) There will be minor changes to the eastbound Monday to Friday morning peak timetable from St Ives/Penzance to Truro via Hayle, Camborne and Redruth and to the westbound Monday to Friday evening peak timetable from Truro to Penzance/St Ives via Redruth, Camborne and Hayle. New service 14A will operate on Sunday and public holidays daytime until Sunday 31 August 2014 inclusive every two hours between St Ives and Truro via Hayle, Hayle Towans, Camborne and Redruth. Services 16 and 16A (Penzance - St Ives) The routing and timetables for these services will be extensively revised. Monday to Saturday off-peak journeys will no longer be diverted via Manor Way and Pendennis Road, but through facilities to and from Penzance Town Centre will be maintained. Most journeys will operate via Eastern Green Sainsburys at the request of Cornwall Council. Journeys before 1000hrs and after 1600hrs will also be diverted via Penbeagle Estate, St Ives to meet customer requests. The morning peak journey from St Ives to Penzance and the evening peak journey from Penzance to St Ives, which were both withdrawn in November 2013, will be reinstated at the request of customers. Separate journeys will be provided for commuters from Gurnards Head and Zennor to Penzance on service 16A. Service 17/17A (Penzance - St Ives) The timetable will be revised during the summer months with journeys diverted via St Ives Holiday Village on Monday to Saturday (except public holidays) evenings. Alternative facilities will be provided on new service 17B between Penzance - St Ives via Marazion. Service 17B (Penzance - St Ives via Marazion) This new service will operate hourly on Monday to Saturday daytime and on Sunday and public holidays (including evenings) between Penzance Town Centre and St Ives via Penzance Bus Station, Marazion, St Erth Railway Station, St Ives Holiday Village and Carbis Bay. During the summer season (until 31 August) we hope to run an open top on this route most of the time. Service X18 (Penzance - Truro via Hayle) This service is withdrawn. Alternative facilities are available between Penzance Bus Station and Truro Bus Station via Hayle on services 14, St Ives - Truro, and 18, Penzance - Truro, and between Penzance Bus Station and Roscadghill Parc on services 11, Penzance Town Service, and 16A, Penzance - St Ives. Service 27 (St Austell - Truro) The timetable for this service will be extensively revised, but the hourly frequency on Monday to Saturday daytime and the routing remain unchanged. The afternoon school day journeys from Richard Lander School to Truro Bus Station will be transferred to service 88. Services 35/35A (Falmouth - Helston via Helford Passage) The routing and timetables for these services will be extensively revised, but an hourly frequency on Monday to Saturday daytime between Falmouth and Helford Passage and five through journeys between Falmouth and Helston will be maintained. All journeys between Falmouth and Helford Passage and all journeys between Falmouth and Helston via Helford Passage will be numbered service 35, while all journeys between Falmouth and Helston which operate direct between Falmouth Hospital and Lamanva Cross will be numbered 35A. There are two changes to the existing routings:- - certain journeys are extended beyond Helston Coinagehall Street to operate to and from Albion Road and Bulwark Road (as service 36 journeys will no longer be diverted via Albion Road and Bulwark Road) - the routing of all journeys serving the 'Acacia Road loop' is altered so that all buses operating the 'Acacia Road loop' will pass Falmouth Hospital TWICE - journeys from Falmouth The Moor will operate the 'Acacia Road loop' in the clockwise direction, while journeys to Falmouth The Moor will operate the 'Acacia Road loop in the anti-clockwise direction (the REVERSE of the current routings around the 'loop'). This change is been made at the request of local bus users, supported by Cornwall councillors, to improve access to the facilities (e.g. health centre, pharmacy) on the Falmouth Hospital campus. Additional journeys will be provided on Monday to Friday (except public holidays) at 0703hrs from Falmouth Conway Gardens to Falmouth The Moor and at 1845hrs from Falmouth The Moor to Falmouth Conway Gardens in response to customer requests. Service 36 (Coverack - Truro via Helston) The routing and timetables for this service will be extensively revised with buses providing through facilities between Coverack/St Keverne and Truro via RNAS Culdrose, Helston, Stithians and Perranwell. An additional afternoon journey will be provided on Monday to Saturday from Helston to Truro, as well as an extra late afternoon return journey between Stithians and Truro via Perranwell. The current journeys on Monday to Friday at 0612hrs from Helston Tesco to Coverack Car Park and at 0632hrs from Coverack Car Park to Helston Tesco will be withdrawn due to very low customer demand. Service 36 journeys will no longer be diverted via Albion Road and Bulwark Road, Helston. Alternative facilities are available on services 35/35A, Falmouth " Helston. Journeys between Helston Coinagehall Street and Truro Bus Station on Sunday and public holidays will be extended to and from Helston Sainsburys (for Flambards theme park). Service 37 (Redruth - The Lizard) The timetable for this service will be extensively revised, with the restoration of many through journeys on Monday to Saturday daytime and evenings between Redruth Railway Station, RNAS Culdrose, Mullion and The Lizard - additional journeys will be provided to and from Redruth Railway Station on Saturday until Saturday 30 August 2014 inclusive. The revised timetable has been designed to considerably improve connectivity in Helston Town Centre with other First South West buses and at Redruth Railway Station with First Great Western trains to and from Exeter St Davids, London Paddington and Plymouth. Buses on Sunday and public holidays will operate every two hours between Redruth Railway Station and The Lizard The Green via Helston. Service 39 (Camborne - Helston) There are no changes to this timetable at this time Services 41/41A (Camborne - Falmouth via Redruth) The section of route between Camborne Bus Station and Redruth Railway Station and the service number 41A are withdrawn. Alternative facilities are available on services 14/14A/18, St Ives/Penzance -Truro via Camborne and Redruth. The timetable for service 41 is extensively revised but buses will continue to operate between Falmouth and Redruth every 30 minutes on Monday to Saturday daytime; every hour on Monday to Saturday evenings and on Sunday and public holidays daytime (a doubling of the existing two-hourly frequency on Sunday and public holidays). One journey per hour between 0800hrs and 1800hrs on Monday to Friday will be extended to begin from Falmouth Campus, Wood Lane. Service 45 (Camborne - Helston) There are some minor changes to the timetable and journey times. Service 46 (Camborne - Truro via Redruth) There are no changes to this timetable at this time Service 47 (Troon - Truro via Camborne and Redruth) A revised timetable will operate on Monday to Saturday evenings (except public holidays) and on Sunday and Public Holidays with buses operating every two hours over the full route between Troon and Truro via Camborne and Redruth, thereby restoring buses at these times to Carharrack, Crofthandy and St Day which were withdrawn in November 2013. Service 68 (Falmouth Town Service) A revised timetable will operate. All journeys will be extended beyond the Golden Bank 'turning point' at the junction of Treveglos Road and Treverbyn Road to operate in a 'clockwise loop' via Treveglos Road, Penhale Road, Trenoweth Road, Swans Reach, Boscundle Avenue and Treveglos Road in response to customer requests to serve new housing developments. Service 68A (Falmouth - Helford Passage) This service is withdrawn. Alternative facilities are available on service 35, Falmouth - Helston via Helford Passage. Service 69 (Falmouth - Truro via Mylor Bridge) A slightly revised timetable will operate between Falmouth and Flushing/Mylor Bridge. A new 'shopperbus' facility will operate on Monday to Friday from Penryn Bohelland Rise depart 0958hrs, via Flushing (depart 1005hrs), Mylor Bridge (depart 1012hrs), Perranwell and Carnon Downs to Truro Bus Station. The return journey will depart from Truro Bus Station at 1405hrs. Service 69A (Falmouth - Mabe Burnthouse) A slightly revised timetable will operate between Falmouth and Mabe Burnthouse. Service 69B (Penryn College - Stithians) This new service will operate on school days only between Penryn College and Stithians Cross Roads via Ponsanooth and Pelean Cross. Service 82 (Helston - Truro) This service is withdrawn. Alternative facilities are available on service 36 Coverack - Truro via Helston. Service 88 (Falmouth - Newquay via Truro) The timetable is extensively revised but buses will continue to operate between Falmouth and Truro every 30 minutes, with buses extended to and from Newquay every hour on Monday to Saturday daytime. Buses will operate between Falmouth and Truro every hour on Monday to Saturday evenings and on Sunday and Public Holidays daytime. The 0545hrs Truro Bus Station to Newquay Bus Station and the 0640hrs Newquay Bus Station to Truro Bus Station journeys on Monday to Friday will be withdrawn due to very low customer demand. One journey per hour between 0800hrs and 1800hrs on Monday to Friday will be diverted between Falmouth Dracaena Cross Roads and Falmouth The Moor to operate via Falmouth Campus, Wood Lane. Additional journeys will be provided on school days only from Richard Lander School departing at 1530hrs to Carnon Downs via Playing Place and Devoran and to Truro Bus Station via Malabar Estate Service 101 (Luxulyan - St Austell via The Eden Project) A revised timetable will operate with many journeys been extended beyond St Austell Railway Station to operate to and from St Austell Town Centre. In addition, a limited number of journeys on Monday to Saturday will be extended to serve Luxulyan. Service 300 (St Ives - Geevor Tin Mine - Sennen Cove - Land's End) Introduced for the summer season (daily from 24 May - 31 August inclusive) but this year with a twist. It will now only run between St Ives and Lands End (it used to run Penzance - St Ives - Lands End - Penzance as a circular) However the good news is for most journeys it will be operated by a vintage double decker bus. This offers passengers a trip down memory lane as well as a trip to some great landmarks and attractions such as Geevor Tin Mine, Sennen Cove, Morvah and the attractions and views of Lands End . There are three trips a day in each direction from Monday to Saturday and four on Sundays and public holidays. New timetables are available to download individually on our website - click here to view them here: Comprehensive timetable guides for all our routes in Cornwall will available from our travel shops in Penzance and Truro bus stations from the end of May. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: old original on May 29, 2014, 08:05:44 This is what was on the 300 yesterday, on hire from First Beeline (?) Bracknell. But it is going back to there today to do trips for the Derby so it's back to the regular First topless buses
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 30, 2014, 00:41:54 That's not a bus - it's a fire engine! :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: old original on May 30, 2014, 16:45:36 Apparently(& alledgedly) the green one used in the advertising is available but the drivers won't use it as it doesn't have power steering and it has a crash gearbox. The red one above has been "modernised"
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 30, 2014, 18:23:48 The green one used in their publicity is a stock photograph and not the actual bus anyway!
The Roofless Routemaster was on a 1 week loan from Berkshire, now being reported the normal open toppers (which the Citybuses are approaching 30, so probably a classic anyway!)will be running the route for the next week. Mechanical issues with the Lodekka according to an insider at First. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on June 01, 2014, 02:31:44 "Staff have refused to use it", a totally incorrect statement.
Training for those who volunteered for the 300 route is in progress. However, it is proving difficult for those involved as most are used to an auto gearbox, so adapting to a 'crash box' is time consuming (& painful!) Original drivers who used these buses would not have known anything different (i.e., auto); there would have been far less traffic on the roads, and far less passengers. Drivers would have also used that type of gearbox day in/day out. And yes, open toppers for the time being. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: old original on July 08, 2014, 15:24:55 Western Greyhound have extended their 547 Newquay - St Ives service down the coast to to Lands End for the summer.It's only one each way but also operated with a decker (don't know if an open one though). Like First - no national pass concessions available
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on July 08, 2014, 15:26:24 Western Greyhound have extended their 547 Newquay - St Ives service down the coast to to Lands End for the summer.It's only one each way but also operated with a decker (don't know if an open one though). Like First - no national pass concessions available It's not even one each way, it's one full circle from st Ives to Penzance via lands end. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on July 09, 2014, 08:05:28 It's not even one each way, it's one full circle from st Ives to Penzance via lands end.
[/quote] Word on the street is saying that service currently not happening as it's not been registered. Another rumour............... Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on July 13, 2014, 15:32:51 Word on the street is saying that service currently not happening as it's not been registered. Another rumour............... That's not a rumour, its fact. It was submitted to the commissioner end of may/early June but as yet hasn't been approved. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on July 13, 2014, 15:35:30 (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/14457035307_ee4bc7e255_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/o2w5Vr)824KDV (https://flic.kr/p/o2w5Vr) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Here is the 300 today. There is a VR being prepped at Camborne to back up in the summer, as the Lodekka is only doing 3-4 days a week. Loading looked poor compared to previous years open top loadings. I think I counted around 8-10 passengers plus the conductor. I have couple of other pictures on my Flickr if anyone is interested I took today. Should load by clicking on my Flickr username above. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on July 14, 2014, 09:09:56 Loading looked poor compared to previous years open top loadings. I think I counted around 8-10 passengers plus the conductor.
Why change something that works well? Open tops running the circular route for years, & always popular. MD insists on a vintage; has to be paid for, so open tops as feeders - very full. Vintage to be paid for, considerably less passengers. ::) :( Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on July 14, 2014, 16:54:11 Loading looked poor compared to previous years open top loadings. I think I counted around 8-10 passengers plus the conductor. Why change something that works well? Open tops running the circular route for years, & always popular. MD insists on a vintage; has to be paid for, so open tops as feeders - very full. Vintage to be paid for, considerably less passengers. ::) :( The open toppers I saw on the feeder service either end were both full upstairs, didn't pay attention to downstairs. My observations yesterday were people like the open top feeders- which are still bus pass compatible which may impact the numbers, The vintage less popular and not bus pass friendly. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: old original on August 24, 2014, 12:54:04 This service has now been extended, although only 2 services each way, until 27th September
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on September 03, 2014, 18:23:40 Today the VR broke down at the bottom of Sennen Cove, so was substituted by a Royale.
It couldn't have picked a nicer place to break down on a Sunny day though. Left rather tight for other buses to pass as can be seen in my pictures: (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15129519015_dcfeee97b6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p3WJU8)AFJ706T Sennen Cove (2) (https://flic.kr/p/p3WJU8) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people/82289286@N06/), on Flickr (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3897/15129538465_47226d8ac8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p3WQFt)AFJ706T Sennen Cove (1) (https://flic.kr/p/p3WQFt) by Rich.W. (https://www.flickr.com/people/82289286@N06/), on Flickr Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on May 19, 2015, 19:46:43 Looking at the 2015 timetable for 300 on first website it seems the route reverts to open top operation this year. ;D No mention of validity of bus passes that I can see, can anyone locally update us ?
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 19, 2015, 21:02:31 Looking at the 2015 timetable for 300 on first website it seems the route reverts to open top operation this year. ;D No mention of validity of bus passes that I can see, can anyone locally update us ? In theory bus passes shouldn't be valid. Their terms are they aren't valid on seasonal commercial services. It is also likely they won't be valid on the Newquay St Ives service. The open top 1 gets round it as the 1 is an all year service, albeit with a topless bus in summer. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: brompton rail on May 19, 2015, 21:13:37 I thought that First Kernow offered a half fare price to ENCT passengers, but can't find any reference to this.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 19, 2015, 21:31:57 I thought that First Kernow offered a half fare price to ENCT passengers, but can't find any reference to this. http://m.firstgroup.com/ukbus/devon_cornwall/news/27231/ Quote From Sunday 24 May 2015 when you present your concession pass to the ticket machine on First Kernow buses you will no longer be issued with a printed ticket. This is being introduced in order to help speed up boarding times and will be a 'smartcard' transaction Your concession pass must still be presented to the ticket machine card reader and if all OK, the machine should bleep once. A ticket will only now be printed ticket if :- - the ticket machine doesnt recognise the pass (and the driver has to manually record the trip). - if the pass holder is travelling before 09:30 or after 23:00 on weekdays and is buying the ^2 flat concession fare. There are no changes to the way your concession pass can be used or how you can travel - free travel is still allowed between 09:30 and 23:00 from Monday to Friday and all day at weekends and on bank holidays. If you have any questions please ask your driver. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: brompton rail on May 20, 2015, 14:58:27 Sorry for not making it clear that I thought there was a special fare for ENTC passengers on the First 300 bus - St Ives to Lands End. As the service is a tourist service First are not obliged to accept ENTC passes.
However Google hasn't come up with an answer regarding any concession army charges. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 20, 2015, 21:23:57 Type into Google search "300 bus cornwall 2014 bus pass". First result is a PDF which has prices listed.
Child/concession pass Holders ^5. Adult ^10, Family ^20 Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: grahame on May 21, 2015, 06:11:23 Type into Google search "300 bus cornwall 2014 bus pass". First result is a PDF which has prices listed. Child/concession pass Holders ^5. Adult ^10, Family ^20 That's last year's scheme - no confirmation that I could see (from a very brief glance) that it applies in 2015 too. Essentially it's a commercial decision - whether to see seats at a special lower fare to pass holders. If they halve the fare, they need to double the number of passengers just to generate the same income, and they have to ensure there's enough seats. Poor immediate financial choice if they generate more business that they have capacity by reducing some fares; poor on customer relations too if they leave people behind who've come out for a day trip. Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: LiskeardRich on May 21, 2015, 07:59:13 It should also be added that a Ride Cornwall so valid. Railcard discount applies on ride Cornwall. The full fare would give the Ride Crnwall benefit on the trains and other seasonal routes, whereas the half fare wouldn't if someone wanted to make a day of touring Cornwall by bus.
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on May 21, 2015, 08:07:13 The Ride Cornwall/railcard discount would have to be purchased at a railway station, of course. Busses cannot accept a railcard for a discounted fare purchased on board!
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on April 22, 2016, 21:54:52 ;D First Kernow have announced the 300 service will be increased to 2 hourly this summer !
Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: GBM on April 23, 2016, 06:39:31 ;D First Kernow have announced the 300 service will be increased to 2 hourly this summer ! Driver discussion as to who meets who; where, and protocol thereof!Title: Re: Open top bus service 300 Lands End St Ives Post by: Sleepy on May 11, 2016, 14:18:33 ;D 2 hourly service this year confirmed in First Kernow summer timetable (on their website) interlinked with service 1 trips.
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