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Title: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2014, 15:13:50
http://www.raileasy.splitticketing.com/ (http://www.raileasy.splitticketing.com/)

Does what is says on the tin....


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: JayMac on April 11, 2014, 15:29:28
Just asked it to split a journey from Bristol TM to Birmingham NS returning same day. Failed to offer the split at Cheltenham Spa into two CDRs.

If it does find a split you are then charged 10% of the saving. So my advice is to just take the split info and go buy the tickets from a TOC website which doesn't charge fees, or from a station.

Also I'm certainly not entering my payment details into a website with no security certificate.

One of the urls includes raileasy, but as far as I can see SplitTicketing.com merely submit your request to raileasy for issuing the tickets after SplitTicketing.com have taken their fee. Not sure this is an official raileasy subsidiary, merely someone using them on an agency basis to reconcile ticket requests.

There's also this url: http://www.splitticketing.com/

I can also find no registered company trading as SplitTicketing.com. That's worrying if they're taking payment for providing a service.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2014, 16:25:31
Doesn't it pass you to RailEasy to take payment? And they have a certificate?....


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: JayMac on April 11, 2014, 16:40:34
Follow up:

I think I've found the company behind this website:

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08800944/RAILEASY-SPLIT-TICKETING-LTD/company-summary

And it would appear that it is a sister company to raileasy. Sharing a registered address and directors. Apologies for my earlier surmising.

Doesn't it pass you to RailEasy to take payment? And they have a certificate?....

That's how it appears to work, but I've no intention of being a guinea pig. They are taking a fee for their service at the SplitTicketing.com website. That site should have its own systems in place to protect personal data. The site's privacy policy says: "All personal and billing details are passed directly to the ticket retailer and are not processed or made available to us." How then, does this sister company process the split ticketing fee it charges?

Regardless of how the details and transactions are processed you are still entering them onto a webpage with no apparent security protocols. I'd caution against entering payment details.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2014, 17:01:27
I suspect Raileasy process the payment at the higher rate (total of tickets plus the 10%) and pass the 10% back internally between companies.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: JayMac on April 11, 2014, 17:42:30
Hopefully no further fees added by raileasy then, as they do with direct transactions. ^2.50 booking fee. Plus 4.5% of the transaction if paying by credit card (debit cards no transaction fee), and ^1.50 if you want postal delivery.

And if there's a problem with your booking? Then a call to raileasy's customer services will set you back ^1.02 a minute from a BT landline, ^1.46 if you pay Sky for your calls, and more again from a mobile. For instance their 090 number from a vodafone mobile will cost ^1.60 per minute. From O2 is ^2 per minute. From 3 its an eye-watering ^2.36 a minute.

raileasy and subsidiaries? Avoid.

I'm happy to research split ticketing options on this forum for nothing more than a 'thank-you'.  ;)

Incidentally, I made an email enquiry to customers@splitticking.com. It bounced.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2014, 17:49:54
interesting that the email bounced!


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: grahame on April 11, 2014, 18:01:26
Melksham to Farnbourough Main ...

Hoping for "normal price - ^118 ... our price ^51.40" - a Trowbridge split.

Alas:
Quote
404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
and I did try it several times.

I'm also noting it always uses first available train - so a Melksham to London (Didcot split) only comes up when the immediate connecting train at Swindon calls at Didcot.

Potentially useful research tool.



Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: Brucey on April 11, 2014, 20:49:41
I just tried my old journey, Cosham to Bristol Temple Meads.  It suggested splitting at Romsey, Salisbury and Warminster for a day return.  I used to split at Southampton (but buy one of the tickets to Eastleigh, not sure if this is still a valid route), Salisbury and Warminster.  Not bad.

Myself and another programmer friend were discussing last year how simple it would be to create such a website.  The only issues we had at the time were getting the fares data, finding the time to actual write the code and how we'd make any money out of it.  Clearly this site have thought up a solution to the latter issue.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: SDS on April 11, 2014, 21:20:36
The website is illegal in many ways.

No registered company details are listed on the website. Breach of Companies Act and Distance Selling regulations.
No Complete privacy policy listed. Breach of EU privacy Directive.
No Cookie Policy. Breach of some EU directive.


The iFrame uses TrainSplit.com which is https. However it only shows if you go via trainsplit.



Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: JayMac on April 11, 2014, 21:40:38
One of the company directors, posting under the name of 'SickyNicky'* over at RailUK Forums is aware of issues raised about the website's security. This is being addressed apparently.

I've had some correspondence via PM also. He is open to comment and suggestions. So I PM'd some of the comments I tried to raise via email earlier today.

I remain to be convinced about this venture, particularly as it is affiliated with a ticket retailer that has some of the highest fees in the business and a truly astronomical cost for telephone support.


*I put two and two together and actually got four. SickyNicky's location is given on RailUK as Hereford. He regularly comments on ticketing issues (splitting/routeing etc). He is involved with trainscanbecheaper.info. One of the directors of Raileasy Split Ticketing Limited has a given name of Nicholas and an address in Hereford. I asked if he was one and the same. He confirmed.



Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 12, 2014, 08:01:26
I tried a couple of my regular journeys on this site. Alas, it only does Standard class. My experience is that there's some very serious savings on First Class Day Returns - but that these involve some very serious calculations. I have a Worcester - Preston that involves five separate tickets (saving ^37), and a one to Cambridge that involves six (saving ^88).


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: Mike@Raileasy on April 15, 2014, 21:05:24
Just asked it to split a journey from Bristol TM to Birmingham NS returning same day. Failed to offer the split at Cheltenham Spa into two CDRs.

There's also this url: http://www.splitticketing.com/


You can get Bristol TM to Birmingham for ^32.80 (split at Cheltenham) travelling out and back on the same day.


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: Mike@Raileasy on April 15, 2014, 21:07:29

Incidentally, I made an email enquiry to customers@splitticking.com. It bounced.

It's customers@splitticketing.com not splitticking.....


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: JayMac on April 15, 2014, 21:36:06
Welcome to the forum Mike@Raileasy.  :)

The email address was a typo in this thread. The emails I tried to send the other day, to the correct address, failed. I discussed this with your co-director by PM at RailUK, who said he'd look to get it fixed.

(http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt68/bignosemac/stemail_zpsb1c5b546.jpg)

I've just sent a test email to customers@splitticketing.com. This appears to also have bounced, so it looks like the problem is yet to be fixed. Just like my offer to research split tickets here for free, there's no charge for testing your systems.  ;D

(http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt68/bignosemac/st2_zpsbd530e4c.jpg)
 
And yes, I knew of the split at Cheltenham Spa. Your engine failed to offer it the other day. Can't check again at the moment as the splitticketing.com website appears to be down. I, however prefer to use another fare, backed up with itineraries from National Rail Enquires, that costs just ^19.40, when making a day trip from Bristol to Brum.  ;)


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: grahame on April 15, 2014, 22:23:56
Welcome to the forum, Mike.

Can't check again at the moment as the splitticketing.com website appears to be down.

The site is working with https: rather than http:  Works at https://www.splitticketing.com/

The forward from http: to https: isn't configured, so the old URL no longer works.

Code:
WomanWithCat:apr14 grahamellis$ telnet www.splitticketing.com 80
Trying 69.61.19.37...
Connected to splitticketing.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.1
host: www.splitticketing.com

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:21:49 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.26 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.26 OpenSSL/1.0.1e-fips mod_bwlimited/1.4
Location: https://www./
Content-Length: 197
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html><head>
<title>302 Found</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Found</h1>
<p>The document has moved <a href="https://www./">here</a>.</p>
</body></html>
Connection closed by foreign host.
WomanWithCat:apr14 grahamellis$


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: grahame on April 15, 2014, 22:50:01
By the way, Mike - is your openssl compiled with the OPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS flag, as I note you're running 1.0.1e - that's me making the assumption that it's the same server that was on http: and is now on https:?  See here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/08/running_openssl_patch_now_to_fix_critical_bug/)


Title: Re: RailEasy accomodates Split Ticketing
Post by: SDS on April 15, 2014, 23:27:24
OpenSSL uh oh lol..


Still not put your company details on the website I see, still not complying with EU directives nor the Companies Act.



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