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Slightly curious, but what stations/deopts nearby that FGW have services to have refueling facilities?

Only depots have fuelling facilities, Penzance (Longrock), Plymouth Laira, Exeter, SPM (Bristol) um don't know the others

hmm, i swear i've seen trains being refueled at cardiff (station not canton), or was this something else?

excuse my lack of knowledge in this area :p

Probably coolant or if it were the bowsers on the platform then they are for filling the water tanks for the toilets.

Me thinks Oxford has refueling point, would also expect Swansea to fuel FGW HST's,

Thinking about it for SAFETY reasons, Fueling cannot be done at Stations.

As Vacman quoted Engine Coolant is added at stations, also Buffet and Toilet tanking takes place at stations.

Swansea Landore, Old Oak London, Reading Turbo Depot, can they fuel at Fratton? (Dont think so?)..

Yep they can.

I've always assumed that the trains with pipes out of them at PAD are being refueled

Although.........

Diesel is not flammable the same way as petrol or jet fuel.  
It does not explode

So maybe it could be fuelled safely - in my parameters of what I accept as acceptable risk

Refueling is Dangerous at Stations, or indeed at Refueling points, whilst Diesel won't ignite like Petrol, when fueling the Engines are still Hot there is a Small risk of overfilling and spilt fuel could ignite.
 
The biggest risks are that (and it does occur at refueling points to staff on occasions) Passengers could be sprayed with Diesel, spilt Diesel is also a Massive Hazard, and most of all Refueling Diesel is a Very SMELLY job.

Refueling points also have spill aprons so that any spillage will not end up in water courses.

The pipes at Paddington are purely for the toilet tanks and buffet.

Passengers could be sprayed with diesel -  happens to me most time I fill my truck - not something I would regard as a hazard and not something I would complain about if I walked close to a train being refuelled

Spilt diesel is a hazard cos its slippy - if not, why do the farmers in my area get away with leaving "fuel on road"  signs everywhere when they should clean it up.  again - danger of slipping is something I put to my own ability to deal with danger.

diesel is smelly - yes so is pad when 3/4 HST are about to pull out - so what - hardly likely to make it worse (and it may kill the smell of the BK which makes me want to vomit every time I walk past it!)

Again in this day and age I can see why not - I just dont agree (but then I dont agree with 90% of H&S or the nanny state)

I think we should also remember how big any trains fuel tank is, would take a few jerry cans to fill one up!

How big is a tank on a HST?

couple of hundred gallons I think? maybe more? you'll know Jim!! ;)

4,500 litres (am NOT a ned)  ::)

whats a DMU's (say a 158) fuel tank size then?  :P

You know the nozzle in a Petrol Station Diesel fuel Pump that goes in the car fuel tank is about 1 inch, 25.4mm to those converted types well the filler on Diesel trains is about 6inches, and you don't get sprayed with fuel you get bowled over.

Let's get over it Fueling doesn't get done in Stations.

Even the Ffestiniog railway Refuel away from Public areas.

Well I make the point of using the HGV pumps which are oft 3 inches - but then I do drive a pick up truck with a commercial tank!

As I said - I can understand why modern H&S don't refuel in stations - just don't agree with it.

The same way I don't agree with pharmacists having to give long spiel about what you can take with paracetamol - if you don't understand the risk of what you are doing - I hope you die before you pass your genes onto the next generation

4500 litres per power car as oooo states.....think you will find filliing up the tanks forms part of a nightly fuel point exam, where various items are checked/tested/replaced.... folks there is a lot more to it than taking your HST/Unit to a train filling station so to speak, also each set is then subject to a vigorus Train prep exam and passed fit to enter service.....bit like a car Mot but done every day.
So when you see the words train fault appear just think for a while

Back in the good old days of Canton doing FPX's the unit's came off depot with more faults than when thay got there!

Not the foggiest!

1000 gallons per power car

old oak defiently has one, also reading depot does as well, bristol ( SPM ) has one, oxford has one, penzance, westbury, exeter

There is not only the safety issue to think about when considering refueling at stations.  Many platforms are already at capacity, do you want them to be tied up further with something that could be done better at a depot?  In the old days when trains were fuels with coal, there was presumably no safety issue, but I don't think many trains were refueled at platforms.

You might be able to think of a few remote stations where refueling at a station from a road tanker might make sense but in general the practice does not make either safety or operational sense.