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Title: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 31, 2014, 16:16:01
From a First Great Western press release:

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Electric car charging coming to a station near you

Over 40 First Great Western stations will benefit from electric car charging points, following an announcement by the Deputy Prime Minister.

More than ^9 million has been promised by the Government to boost the number of charging points and First Great Western (FGW) has been awarded ^315,000 to install the devices at 44 of its 210 stations.

FGW^s Major Projects Manager Sarah McManus said: ^First Great Western are delighted to have been awarded this grant and the opportunity to improve the services we offer to our customers. These charging points will enable customers to take full advantage of travelling in a more sustainable way, making their journey to our stations, and onwards by train.^

The 44 stations included in the Office of Low Emission Vehicles grant include: Aldermaston, Barnstaple, Bodmin Parkway, Bourne End, Bristol Parkway, Bristol Temple Meads, Charlbury, Chippenham, Cholsey, Clifton Down, Crowthorne, Didcot Parkway, Exeter St Davids, Frome, Gloucester, Goring & Streatley, Henley-on-Thames, Kemble, Liskeard, Looe, Moreton-in-Marsh, Newquay, Newton Abbot, North Camp, Oxford, Pewsey, Plymouth, Reading, Redruth, Slough,Taplow, Teignmouth, Theale, Tiverton Parkway, Torquay, Trowbridge, Truro, Warminster, Westbury, Yate and Yatton.

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said: ^Electric cars are one of the most promising of our green industries and we want to secure the UK^s position as a global leader in both the production and adoption of these vehicles. The extremely low running costs of electric cars help drivers save money and we are allocating more than ^9 million to boost chargepoints across the country to help drivers to go green. This means we can lower UK emissions and create high-tech engineering and manufacturing jobs to boost our economy.^

The announcement comes as the Deputy Prime Minister visited iconic transport venue Ace Cafe, just off the North Circular in North West London, where he met managing directors, staff and apprentices from leading motoring companies BMW, Nissan, Renault, Toyota and Vauxhall.

The companies are all backing the Go Ultra Low campaign in a ground breaking partnership with government to debunk common myths and misconceptions that put drivers off switching to electric or hybrid cars, such as cost and how far the vehicles can travel before being recharged.


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: grahame on January 31, 2014, 16:40:17
Chippenham,  Trowbridge,  Warminster, Westbury

Can we have one at ... no, I shouldn't ask  ;D


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 31, 2014, 16:45:25
No, you shouldn't.  Nailsea & Backwell doesn't get one, either - despite the substantial expansion of the station car park, which is presently very much a work in progress.  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: bobm on January 31, 2014, 19:21:05
I am struggling to see the criteria used for the stations chosen.

Places like Aldermaston and Looe included.
Places like Penzance and Swindon excluded


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: ellendune on January 31, 2014, 19:23:59
I am struggling to see the criteria used for the stations chosen.

Places like Aldermaston and Looe included.
Places like Penzance and Swindon excluded

Are the criteria to select a sample of different types of station to understand where they are successful?


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 31, 2014, 19:27:13
Hmm.  ::)

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The 44 stations included in the Office of Low Emission Vehicles grant include: Aldermaston, Barnstaple, Bodmin Parkway, Bourne End, Bristol Parkway, Bristol Temple Meads, Charlbury, Chippenham, Cholsey, Clifton Down, Crowthorne, Didcot Parkway, Exeter St Davids, Frome, Gloucester, Goring & Streatley, Henley-on-Thames, Kemble, Liskeard, Looe, Moreton-in-Marsh, Newquay, Newton Abbot, North Camp, Oxford, Pewsey, Plymouth, Reading, Redruth, Slough, Taplow, Teignmouth, Theale, Tiverton Parkway, Torquay, Trowbridge, Truro, Warminster, Westbury, Yate and Yatton.

That's 41 stations.  Where are the other three?   ::)


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: johoare on January 31, 2014, 20:58:09
I am struggling to see the criteria used for the stations chosen.

Places like Aldermaston and Looe included.
Places like Penzance and Swindon excluded

Are the criteria to select a sample of different types of station to understand where they are successful?

Or maybe where there is adequate space?


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: trainer on January 31, 2014, 22:15:18
Or maybe where there is adequate space?

Yatton hardly qualifies then. The last few times I have parked there mid-week (in the past two weeks) all the hard standing is full and the pitted and pot-holed waste ground (chargeable) has also been almost filled to usable capacity (room if you can get out with your wellies on and don't mind mud all over your footwear).  To lose even two or three spaces which will probably remain empty 95% of the time (or more, but let's be generous) will impact in times of severe rain, which is most of the winter it seems.


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: bobm on January 31, 2014, 22:21:42
Looe only has 20 spaces.  Not sure how well used they are.


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: grahame on February 01, 2014, 10:50:26
At a quick count I make this 43 ...

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The full list of stations where charging points are to be installed: Aldermaston, Barnstaple, Bodmin Parkway, Bourne End, Bristol Parkway, Bristol Temple Meads, Charlbury, Chippenham, Cholsey, Clifton Down, Crowthorne, Didcot Parkway, Exeter St Davids, Frome, Gloucester, Goring & Streatley, Henley-on-Thames, Kemble, Liskeard, Looe, Moreton-in-Marsh, Newquay, Newton Abbot, North Camp, Oxford, Pewsey, Plymouth, Reading, Romsey, Redruth, Slough, St Austell, Taplow (East and West), Teignmouth, Theale, Tiverton Parkway, Torquay, Trowbridge, Truro, Warminster, Westbury, Yate and Yatton.

... or 44 if you include both Taplow stations (wasn't aware there were two!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25982620?


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: ellendune on February 01, 2014, 11:26:15
At a quick count I make this 43 ...

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The full list of stations where charging points are to be installed: Aldermaston, Barnstaple, Bodmin Parkway, Bourne End, Bristol Parkway, Bristol Temple Meads, Charlbury, Chippenham, Cholsey, Clifton Down, Crowthorne, Didcot Parkway, Exeter St Davids, Frome, Gloucester, Goring & Streatley, Henley-on-Thames, Kemble, Liskeard, Looe, Moreton-in-Marsh, Newquay, Newton Abbot, North Camp, Oxford, Pewsey, Plymouth, Reading, Romsey, Redruth, Slough, St Austell, Taplow (East and West), Teignmouth, Theale, Tiverton Parkway, Torquay, Trowbridge, Truro, Warminster, Westbury, Yate and Yatton.

... or 44 if you include both Taplow stations (wasn't aware there were two!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25982620?

There is only one station, but there are car parks on both sides of the line, yet these would presumably be called north and south  ???


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Kernow Otter on February 01, 2014, 16:50:17
Or where there is hot and cold running electricity !!


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: broadgage on February 06, 2014, 09:43:34
I am struggling to see the criteria used for the stations chosen.

Places like Aldermaston and Looe included.
Places like Penzance and Swindon excluded

It could perhaps be due to survey results.
Someone might have asked in a survey "would you drive an electric vehicle to the station if a charging point was available ?"

Even a single "yes" response might justify providing a charging point at the station in question, but not (yet) elswhere.



Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on February 06, 2014, 16:43:49
I am rather puzzled as to how station car park vehicle charging would work.
Most of the existing public charging points operate a fast charge system so that a vehicle can be recharged and on its way again with the minimum of delay. However most people going to a station car park go for the best part of the day, only returning towards the end of the working day. If they connected their car, it would presumably be left connected until they returned because they would not be present when an adequate charge has been made. Does this mean that each charging point in these railway car parks will only be used by one or two cars a day?
Does anyone know more about how this scheme will work?


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: broadgage on February 13, 2014, 11:00:44
I would presume that the vehicle being charged would remain connected until the owner returned.
So yes in most cases each charging point would be used by only one vehicle a day.

I doubt that anything elaborate is planned, probably simply a weather proof 13 amp socket on a post.
Similar installations exist in London streets, and in some supermarket car parks.

It is fairly easy to provide more charging points if demand warrants this.



Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: bobm on February 23, 2014, 11:51:42
From the Wiltshire Times (http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/11027974.Electrifying_news_for_Bradford_on_Avon_rail_station/)

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Electrifying news for Bradford on Avon rail station
(http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/resources/images/2883965.jpg?type=articleLandscape)
Shay Parsons of Climate Friendly Bradford on Avon with, from left, Kevin Sharpe of Zero Carbon World, Cllr Horace Prickett and Cllr Richard Gamble at the car charging point in Bradford station car park Photo: Glenn Phillips (49157)

Bradford on Avon is continuing its quest to reduce its carbon footprint after two more electric car charging points were installed in the station car park.
 
Wiltshire Council received funding of ^180,000 by the Office of Low Emission Vehicles to install the points. More will follow at Chippen- ham, Trowbridge and Westbury stations.
 
The points take three to four hours to charge most vehicles to 80 per cent. Charging is free for an initial introductory period before it becomes a chip and pin or pay-as-you-go service.
 
Shay Parsons, director of Climate Friendly Bradford on Avon, said: ^It puts Bradford on Avon on the map in terms of where electric drivers will stop.
 
See www.openchargemap.org  (http://www.openchargemap.org)


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 07, 2014, 02:12:51
From South West Business (http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/news/06052014102007-six-new-rapid-charge-points-for-electric-vehicles-to-be-installed-in-wiltshire-/):

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Six new rapid charge points for electric vehicles to be installed in Wiltshire

Six new rapid charge points for electric vehicles are to be installed following Wiltshire Council^s successful bid for government funding.

The council received a ^225,000 grant from the Office of Low Emission Vehicles (OLEV) which will pay for rapid charging points in Melksham, Trowbridge, Corsham, Chippenham, Warminster and Salisbury,

They will be positioned close to major routes for mid-journey top ups and be near businesses such as coffee shops and newsagents to accommodate drivers during the 20 to 30-minute recharge.

The council has recently installed a twin, fast-charging unit in Bradford on Avon Station Car Park and adding twin charging points at Chippenham, Trowbridge and Westbury railway stations in partnership with First Great Western.

The rapid charge points are part of the Local Sustainable Transport Fund project which will eventually link a network of charging points across Wiltshire and will feed into the national network.

John Thomson, cabinet member for transport, said: ^The council is working hard to reduce its CO2 emissions and its impact on climate change. We are committed to helping people travel in a more sustainable way and are always exploring new ways to reduce transport-related emissions across Wiltshire.^

The council will also be putting charging points into its office car parks and campuses.

To discover the location of charging points around the country visit http://openchargemap.org/site/ to find out more.

Information about low emission vehicles including electric vehicles and charging can be found at www.gov.uk/office-for-low-emission-vehicles and www.goultralow.com


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: broadgage on May 09, 2014, 08:27:45
The picture in post 15 would appear to be a fast charging point and NOT the simple weather resistant 13 amp socket on a post that I was expecting.

Such equipment has the merit of fast charging, but may not be compatible with all electric vehicles as requirements and connectors differ.
Virtualy all electric vehicles are also equiped also for slow charging from a standard domestic socket, this being required for charging at the typical home or business not fitted with fast charge facilities.

Installation of fast charging facilities can be expensive because the existing electrical suppply to the premises may not be adeqaute. Arranging for an increased supply takes time and money.


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: ChrisB on May 14, 2014, 08:31:47
There's two at Banbury - and usage stats show that its been used *once* since installation nearly a year ago....


Title: Re: Electric car charging coming to a station near you
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on May 14, 2014, 09:46:12
I looked at http://openchargemap.org/site/ to see what recharging points there are in west oxon. It looked like zero to me, not that if I had an battery electic car that i would be likely to need to use a point in West Oxon as I would recharge at home. I just wonder if this sort of deficiency is very wide spread. There seems to be plenty of recharging points in and around oxford but go west and you might get stranded so no battery powerr for me just yet.



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