Great Western Coffee Shop

All across the Great Western territory => Across the West => Topic started by: grahame on December 29, 2013, 12:29:23



Title: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: grahame on December 29, 2013, 12:29:23
Quote
One of the country^s most unpopular rail companies has received another unwelcome accolade ^ more crimes take place on its trains than on any other line.

[snip]

New figures obtained by this newspaper under the Freedom of Information Act reveal for the first time which rail lines suffer the highest crime rates.
They show that 1,179 offences were reported on FGW trains in 2013.

[snip]

Proportionally, the route with the most crimes reported is the state-run East Coast line, operating the main route from London King's Cross to Newcastle and Edinburgh


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530455/The-great-train-robberies-Most-crimes-Worst-Late-Western-season-tickets-rise-3-1-week.html



Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: Brucey on December 29, 2013, 12:54:37
The "number of crimes per million journeys" is probably the most useful figure.  It follows, without argument, that more passenger journeys will result in more crime.

Passengers of InterCity TOCs are more likely to part with their luggage throughout the journey, hence the higher number of crimes reported on these services.


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: bobm on December 29, 2013, 13:49:29
I agree Brucey.

Also interesting to note that despite the image the article is trying to portray, Paddington does not feature in the top 5 "worst London stations".


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: Super Guard on December 29, 2013, 14:51:59
The level of reporting of the Daily Mail continues to astound me..

Apart from the "Worst Late Western" line in the article and the fact FGW do not appear in the "Crimes per passenger million journeys", I would love to ask the DM journalists what on earth Tim O'Toole's salary has to do with this...  ???

Quote
The news will be greeted with dismay by the operator^s passengers, whose fares rise by 3.1 per cent in the New Year. The company, which serves the South West, Greater London, the South East, West Midlands and South Wales, is owned by FirstGroup PLC, whose chief executive Tim O^Toole  is paid a basic salary of ^846,000.


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: Btline on December 29, 2013, 14:55:52
Because the readers of the DM are anti high salaries. Anti bankers etc. etc.

Despite the fact that if FGW paid less, Tim o Toole would go on to do a different job that paid well and FGW would lose the talent.


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: trainer on December 29, 2013, 16:46:18
Can this be...the Daily Mail frightening and panicking people who use FGW?  I'm shocked!  :o


 :P


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: ellendune on December 29, 2013, 16:54:42
Can this be...the Daily Mail frightening and panicking people who use FGW?  I'm shocked!  :o :P

No that would never happen it would be so out of character


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: Electric train on December 29, 2013, 22:38:20
The level of reporting of the Daily Mail continues to astound me..

Apart from the "Worst Late Western" line in the article and the fact FGW do not appear in the "Crimes per passenger million journeys", I would love to ask the DM journalists what on earth Tim O'Toole's salary has to do with this...  ???

The DM is just anti rail it has always disliked rail, it pretends to be the defender of the rail commuter when in reality all the DM dose is sensationalise rail stores to sell more copy


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: JayMac on December 29, 2013, 23:02:35
Really strange that this article focuses on FGW when the worst stats for crime are on the publicly owned East Coast TOC. Surely the Daily Mail should be questioning why crime is worse on the state run railway.

Also, season tickets are going up across the country by 3.1%. This price rise isn't unique to FGW.

I wonder if the article writer, Martin Beckford, commutes with FGW? That would possibly explain the unfair criticism of FGW in this shocking excuse for journalism. That's Martin Beckford, Home Affairs Editor at the Mail on Sunday.*



*Posted in the hope that he Google's himself. Martin. Don't let the facts get in the way of a terrible article.


Title: Re: More crimes on FGW trains than on anyone else's?
Post by: Btline on December 30, 2013, 20:05:40
This standard of journalism in the Daily Mail is not as bad as what you get in your local rag.

In Worcestershire, London Midland have improved the Dec 2014 Snow Hill service, reducing journey times, etc.

One unfortunate impact is that 2 small village stations have altered calling patterns so they lose a direct off peak service to Worcester.

The local rag reported that "now all the trains just wizz through" (the same number stop as before, just different destinations) and that the "cuts" were due to more trains calling at a different station* (not true). They had some local people moaning about the connection, despite the fact that it is an 8 min same platform change and also lied about .

*Hartlebury, a station that now gets it's best service in 50 years, not mentioned in the article.



This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net