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Title: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 07, 2013, 17:01:27
This one should be for 'The Lighter Side', but as it quotes industry sources I think its best here in FPC.

Some problems this afternoon in the Worcester area. The reason:

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Western Route Incident Signaller issue at Henwick update 16:35

All trains stopped at Henwick (Worcester Foregate Street) due to loss of contact with the Signaller at Henwick LC

Driver of 1P65 is walking to the signal box to investigate.

More when known

Update: Local Operations Manager is on site and the Signaller is stuck in the toilet...

 ;D ;D ;D

Credit to fellow team member bobm for the heads up on this one.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 07, 2013, 19:26:51
Thanks for posting that - I was going to ask what had happened.

I was travelling back from Liverpool. The 17:19 from New St to Worcester was shown on the displays as "expected 17:55". Ended up on a very overcrowded 17:49 (which arrives from the depot rather than from the Worcester direction).


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Brucey on February 07, 2013, 20:08:38
I saw a member of railway staff post about this on Twitter earlier.  Needless to say, I didn't actually believe them initially...!


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: thetrout on February 07, 2013, 20:10:57
The amount of times I've found myself in a similar situation, I really shouldn't find that funny!

Brilliant Find ;D ;D ;D ;D

On a more serious note though... Possibly a brilliant reason to take your mobile with you when spending that penny.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on February 07, 2013, 20:14:55
Can't use a mobile on duty? ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: thetrout on February 07, 2013, 20:21:05
Can't use a mobile on duty? ;D

Whilst I suspect that is some kind of pun (If that is the case, it was awful ;D )

Having a switched off Mobile Phone on your person I would deem perfectly acceptable when and only when used in situations such as this!


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 07, 2013, 20:36:25
Wrong-side failure of toilet door?

Or interlock failure?


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: thetrout on February 07, 2013, 21:07:39
Mobile fell down the pan? ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on February 07, 2013, 22:21:27
Can't use a mobile on duty? ;D

Whilst I suspect that is some kind of pun (If that is the case, it was awful ;D )

I thought, judging by Chris from Nailsea's posts, that bad puns were a pre-requisite for the job!


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 07, 2013, 23:47:28
They are!  ;D

It was clearly a failure of the SDO.  ::)


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 08, 2013, 00:04:05
I wonder what was written in the log...


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 08, 2013, 00:28:25
In the vernacular: "Bog off!", probably.  :P


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Andy W on February 08, 2013, 13:08:30
Perhaps he's worried he'll get his Pee45


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 11, 2013, 09:57:57
Apparently I'm a 'mischievous web forum user'. I've been called worse things!

From the Worcester News (http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/10218821.Train_delays_caused_by_signalman_stuck_in_toilet/):

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In-convenience for passengers on Worcester - Malvern - Hereford line after toilet break at Henwick

(http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/resources/images/2328487.jpg?type=articleLandscape)
WE APOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE: The Henwick signal box and outdoor toilet in St John^s, Worcester. Picture: Paul Jackson.

TRAINS travelling through Worcester had an unscheduled stop after an unfortunate signalman got stuck in the toilet.

Passengers found themselves being held up at the Henwick signal box in St John^s on Wednesday afternoon after the man who was meant to be controlling the signals made an ill-fated dash to a Victorian outdoor toilet.

The disruption was publicly announced as ^signalling problems^, but one mischievous web forum user lifted the lid on what really happened when he posted Network Rail^s official incident log.

It shows that trains were being forced to stop at Henwick after all contact was lost with the signalman.

The driver of the 15:13 Hereford to London service is then reported to have got out of his train and walked to the signalbox to see if he could sniff out the problem.

The next update simply states: ^Local operations manager is on site and the signaller is stuck in the toilet.^

Network Rail apologised for the ^unfortunate incident^.

^Much of the railway is still controlled from Victorian signal boxes, which often have outside loos,^ a spokesman said. ^Our plans to modernise the railway will see control moved to state-of-the-art regional control centres, where unfortunate incidents such as this simply wouldn^t be an issue. We apologise to anyone whose journey was delayed or disrupted.^


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on February 11, 2013, 10:22:18
I apologise for putting the 'mischievous web forum user' up to it in the first place!  ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: trainer on February 11, 2013, 11:17:17
This lifts a lid on how journalists find stories without leaving home.  It's good to know that this Forum carries so much authority and I shall be even more careful about what I say in future.  Micheivous eh?  Probably better researched than most rubbish seen in the daily press.  ;)


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 11, 2013, 11:20:13
I have to say it may not have come from this forum. I posted the same topic over at RailUK.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: trainer on February 11, 2013, 11:23:24
I have to say it may not have come from this forum. I posted the same topic over at RailUK.

I'm deflated  :'(

 ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 11, 2013, 12:16:40
This particular topic is in our Frequent Posters Club - which is not readable by anyone who isn't a member here.  ;)

Credit to the Worcester News for sending Paul Jackson out to get a relevant picture to illustrate their story.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 11, 2013, 13:09:28
On reflection, as this story is now out in the public domain via the Worcester News, would anyone who has posted here mind if I moved this topic out into the publicly readable area of the forum now?


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 11, 2013, 14:06:24
Apparently the story has got as far as Scotland : http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/the-new-rail-excuse-locked-in-the-lavatory.1360578949 (http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/the-new-rail-excuse-locked-in-the-lavatory.1360578949).


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Oxman on February 11, 2013, 16:03:24
And now the Beeb has is:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-21410006


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 11, 2013, 20:30:59
... and now, from the Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/train-delayed-due-to-signalman-trapped-1704040?):

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Most unusual excuse for rail delays yet? Train over an hour late due to signalman trapped in toilet

He nipped away from his post to answer the call of nature but was left flushed with embarrassment when the brick outhouse^s lock jammed

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1703993.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/%C2%A3%C2%A3%C2%A3The+Victorian+era+outside+toilet+at+the+Henwick+signal+box+in+Worcester.jpg)

Train passengers were held up for more than an hour when a railway signalman became trapped in an outside toilet.

The signalman nipped away from his post to answer the call of nature but was left flushed with embarrassment when the brick outhouse^s lock jammed and he was stuck inside.

The driver of the Hereford to London service heard the hapless worker^s cries for help after he was forced to stop his train because he could not make radio contact.

Colleagues eventually managed to set the signalman free by forcing the door open with a crowbar.

The 3.13pm service was delayed during the rescue near Worcester Foregate Street station.

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1703992.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/%C2%A3%C2%A3%C2%A3%C2%A3General+view+of+the+Henwick+signal+box+in+Worcester.jpg)

Rail bosses gave the reason as ^signalling problems^ but rail ^enthusiasts became privy to the truth through an internet forum.

One user joked: ^Where are all the relief staff when you need ^em^

And another added: ^Too busy filling in the signalman^s log.^

Network Rail ^apologised for Wednesday^s incident and blamed the rail system^s ageing buildings.

A spokesman added: ^Much of the railway network is still controlled from Victorian signal boxes, which often have outside loos.

^Our plans to modernise will see control moved to state-of-the-art regional control centres, where unfortunate incidents such as this simply wouldn^t be an issue.^


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on February 11, 2013, 21:39:08
Those quotes in the Mirror come from RailUK.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 11, 2013, 22:50:54
And the Daily Mail have also run the story, including a screen shot of my OP over at RailUK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276913/Signalman-stuck-toilet-Excuse-delayed-train-revealed-frustrated-passengers-held-hour.html#axzz2KXca1GMW
 


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 11, 2013, 22:59:53
This topic was originally being discussed in our 'frequent posters' area, for our established members only, as it was based on some inside information about this particular incident.

However, now that the national press have picked up on the story, via another rail-related forum, I'm happy to move our topic out into the open here, for your amusement.

Chris.  ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 11, 2013, 23:06:01
ITV have the story, as does London's Evening Standard:

http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2013-02-11/train-delayed-as-signalman-is-stuck-in-toilet/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/rail-passengers-stranded-as-signalman-gets-stuck-in-toilet-8489645.html

What all this does show is how slow traditional media outlets can be. The incident was brought to my attention by bobm last Wednesday and its only today, nearly a week later, that its making the press.

Oh, and the Mail, called me 'cheeky'.  ::) :D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on February 11, 2013, 23:25:12
However the additional coverage has answered one question.  When I mentioned the story to a relation who is not interested in rail for one moment they asked..."If you were on your own, why would you lock the door?"  If it was an outside loo I would!!


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: chuffed on February 12, 2013, 07:43:22
I think that should be 'users' bobm. You will no doubt open the floodgates to a infamous group of us who just love taking the pi55 and producing some terrible puns...


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 12, 2013, 09:12:59
What all this does show is how slow traditional media outlets can be. The incident was brought to my attention by bobm last Wednesday and its only today, nearly a week later, that its making the press.
I think that should be Thursday, and late Thursday afternoon at that.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: JayMac on February 13, 2013, 19:37:24
The story has even made it as far as Ontario, Canada:

http://www.simcoe.com/news/article/1579251--toilet-call-stalls-train


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on March 05, 2013, 22:17:18
Now I realise I am putting myself in danger of the proverbial egg on face moment, but the April issue of Railway Magazine has a front page headline "Signalman locks himself in loo!"

However, despite my poor eyesight, I cannot find said article in the 115 pages which follow.  Perhaps it is RM's April Fool!   ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: rogerw on March 06, 2013, 17:37:40
Glad it's not just me that can't find it  ::)


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: bobm on March 06, 2013, 18:19:01
I'm glad it is not just you that can't find it - doubted myself for quite a bit!  ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: TonyK on March 06, 2013, 20:04:17
Is it true the flush wouldn't work, because of a loo pole in the cistern?


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 06, 2013, 21:46:41
OMG ...  ::) :D ;D


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: swrural on March 06, 2013, 22:08:18
That's the trouble with these puns, they set off a chain reaction.


Title: Re: A most unusual 'signalling' problem at Worcester ...
Post by: chuffed on March 07, 2013, 18:51:20
I have a feeling this will run and run.....



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