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Title: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 30, 2012, 22:12:46
From the Bristol Evening Post (http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/passengers-arriving-Yatton-station-ticket-office/story-15061378-detail/story.html):

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Rail union members are set to protest over a recommendation to shut down hundreds of railway station ticket offices across the country.

Among the ticket offices on the hit list is the one at Yatton station, on the line between Bristol and Weston-super-Mare.

Members of the Rail Maritime and Transport union will demonstrate over the plans at Bristol Temple Meads station on Thursday.

Yatton ticket office is among 30 in the Western region which could close or have its opening hours slashed if the Government follows recommendations made in Sir Roy McNulty's independent report into cost savings on the British railways.

His report recommends shutting ticket offices at the 675 small "Category E" stations and replacing them with ticket machines.

It found that although the majority of ticket sales at these stations take place between 7am and 10am, many ticket offices are open for an average of ten hours a day on weekdays.

The plans have alarmed passengers who would be left having to buy tickets from vending machines, which do not always offer the cheapest fare available.

The hit list of stations was included in the McNulty report, which was presented to Philip Hammond, the then Transport Secretary, in May.

Closing ticket offices at little-used stations was part of a package of measures aimed at cutting ^1 billion a year from the industry's running costs. Many of the stations in the Bristol area are either too big, such as Temple Meads and Parkway, or too small, such as Lawrence Hill and Montpelier, to be affected by the recommendations.

The recommendations have already been criticised by consumer watchdog Passenger Focus and the Transport and Salaried Staffs Association.

The Department for Transport says it is considering the findings of the McNulty as part of a Government review.

Gary Abbott, spokesman for the Bristol branch of the RMT, said the morning protest on Thursday would be attended by the union's president Alex Gordon. He said: "The protest will be about the McNulty report and the consequences."


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: dog box on January 30, 2012, 23:05:28
cant think that Yatton is open for 10 hrs a day


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 31, 2012, 01:01:36
0630 - 1230 M-F, 0700 - 1200 Sa, closed Su according to NRES.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JaminBob on February 23, 2012, 22:43:25
Is this a serious threat?


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 23, 2012, 22:53:40
Personally, I don't think so.

See http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=9465.msg98015#msg98015 for more details of the background to this 'threat'.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JaminBob on March 02, 2012, 08:17:20
Hmm. I don't know...

You can see the thinking.

- people need to buy tickets anyway, cos if they don't we fine 'em. So they'll use machines or whatever, so in theory we don't lose any revenue
- any loss of passengers as part of a compound effect of making rail travel less popular doesn't matter because the industry can't cope with growth anyway
- instead of tackling the horrific inefficiencies within the industry, consultancy gravy train, army of loss adjusters, shareholder dividends, and network rail gold plating; its easier just to sack people and make life tougher for our customers.

>:(


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: super tm on March 02, 2012, 09:30:48
What McNulty has done is look at the whole country and see what ticket provision there is and then proposed a standardised model to apply.

You can see the logic.  If a place the size of Hungerford has no ticket office then why does a place the size of Yatton need one.  Personally I think that Hungerford should have a ticket office.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: dog box on March 02, 2012, 11:00:25
Hungerford has a peak hours ticket seller as per Nailsea, but without the luxury of any form of hut


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: John R on March 02, 2012, 19:45:32
0630 - 1230 M-F, 0700 - 1200 Sa, closed Su according to NRES.

So what's the logic of Yatton opening longer on weekdays and also on Saturday in comparison to Nailsea, which gets only 3 hours on a weekday. Nailsea has around 10% more passengers by the way.

By the way, anyone know when the latest footfall figures are due to be published? I can't find a date on the rail regulator's site.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JaminBob on March 03, 2012, 18:30:22
Well yes. But arguing for more ticket provision at station A doesn't necessitate arguing for getting rid of provision at another. Nailsea is packed at peaks, but yatton is more evenly spread, its a railhead for a larger area which includes Clevedon and others. It's still 'Yatton for Clevedon' on the signs. But I have nothing to base this on but daily observation.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: John R on March 03, 2012, 21:41:00
I wasn't arguing for Yatton's hours to be reduced - just enquiring as to what the rationale could be for the difference when Nailsea has the greater footfall.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JayMac on March 03, 2012, 21:58:53
Yatton has some nice solid Victorian buildings still in situ, ideal for a nice cosy ticket office. Nailsea and Backwell has nowt but a plastic shed.

Perhaps that may go some way to explaining why Yatton currently gets better manned ticketing facilities.....  :-X


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: devon_metro on March 03, 2012, 22:53:34
Perhaps FGW consider the folk of Nailsea more trustworthy than Yatton folk, more likely to 'buy before they buy'. It always strikes me when I pass through Yatton what a ghetto it is...  ;)


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 03, 2012, 23:56:33
... but that didn't deter you from actually living there, however ...  ::)


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: devon_metro on March 04, 2012, 00:32:48
I jest of course, Yatton is a lovely place.

I don't however live there.


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JaminBob on March 04, 2012, 11:57:56
I will admit to be really shocked Hungerford has no ticket office!

Nailsea and Backwell is an awful station. Reminds me of lots of outer london ones, up on stilts with lots of concrete. Yatton is very lucky, its a really lovely station. 


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: bobm on March 04, 2012, 12:16:43
Simply because I cannot think where else to put it - a quiz question.  Why did Yatton used to have a regular police presence around midnight six nights a week?


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 04, 2012, 14:23:15
Hmm.  Due to someone important passing through the station?  :-\


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: bobm on March 04, 2012, 14:34:49
... close  something rather than someone


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: John R on March 04, 2012, 14:58:04
nuclear flasks?


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: TheLastMinute on March 04, 2012, 17:47:07
The Travelling Post Office was booked to call at Yatton at around 0030 to pick up the post that had arrived at Bristol Airport and transferred to Yatton by van. Don't know which how many nights per week it call there though.

TLM


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: bobm on March 04, 2012, 19:06:30
Spot on. Think it was five or six nights a week. Saw it on a DVD on the Travelling Post Office. Right back on topic!! ;D


Title: Re: Ticket office closure fear for Yatton
Post by: JaminBob on March 05, 2012, 08:08:44
Wow.

Yatton station basically has a 130 year long story of decline from major junction through to Clevedon railhead, post office interchange an on to not even having a ticket office :P

There's a book in it.



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