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Author Topic: Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion  (Read 657943 times)
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« Reply #510 on: February 11, 2015, 16:15:03 »

Hopefully I've mastered the upload process for the aforementioned letter.  See what you think of FGW (First Great Western)'s descriptive powers...
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« Reply #511 on: February 11, 2015, 17:11:06 »

Although not a regular contributor to this forum I feel compelled to write and agree with those who have commented on this letter. The letter is, I am afraid, symptomatic of much that is wrong with FGW (First Great Western). It is not written in a passenger friendly way, in that you need to have some understanding of the region and railway to make some sense of it and it is not consistent in parts.
I wonder if anyone checked it, other than the writer, before it went out
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« Reply #512 on: February 11, 2015, 17:34:23 »

Totally agree that it's a pretty poor letter.  A lot of the uncertainty would have been removed if the first sentence in the third paragraph wasn't there or was worded better, but a totally rewritten more passenger friendly explanation would have been better as jdw.wor says.

Fortunately, the website page is much clearer and is broken down by line of route.
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« Reply #513 on: February 11, 2015, 17:44:32 »

Does anyone know if FGW (First Great Western) plan to produce timetable alterations booklets as has been done during past major works at Reading?
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« Reply #514 on: February 11, 2015, 17:53:39 »

I'm hoping so
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« Reply #515 on: February 11, 2015, 18:10:21 »

mmmm this interesting, I am involved in carving up a bit of national network through heart of London over Easter looks like hire car or hotel ...........

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« Reply #516 on: February 11, 2015, 18:33:02 »

What happens if the Harbury landslip isn't repaired by Easter?

It'll be difficult to divert London-Bristol/South Wales HSTs (High Speed Train) via Banbury as capacity there is constrained by terminating Chiltern and CrossCountry services. Will there still be room each hour to reverse 4xFGW HSTs?
Was thinking that the other day. The Chiltern line has enough to do being the main line for Birmingham with the Watford Closure as well as fitting in FGW (First Great Western) Bristol/Swansea services. I think if the landslip isn't sorted by then the Watford work would have to be postponed a second time. Again I say shame they didn't do the Watford work all in one go last August.
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« Reply #517 on: February 11, 2015, 20:57:15 »

What happens if the Harbury landslip isn't repaired by Easter?

It'll be difficult to divert London-Bristol/South Wales HSTs (High Speed Train) via Banbury as capacity there is constrained by terminating Chiltern and CrossCountry services. Will there still be room each hour to reverse 4xFGW HSTs?
Was thinking that the other day. The Chiltern line has enough to do being the main line for Birmingham with the Watford Closure as well as fitting in FGW (First Great Western) Bristol/Swansea services. I think if the landslip isn't sorted by then the Watford work would have to be postponed a second time. Again I say shame they didn't do the Watford work all in one go last August.

The closure over Easter at Watford is still planned to go ahead however this is very much subject to the Harbury landslip being resolved.

The Cross Country's could be terminated at Oxford, or even Didcot,  things will be made to fit, the Easter blockade on the GWML (Great Western Main Line) is a key to unlocking so much else on the route
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« Reply #518 on: February 14, 2015, 00:59:09 »

What happens if the Harbury landslip isn't repaired by Easter?

It'll be difficult to divert London-Bristol/South Wales HSTs (High Speed Train) via Banbury as capacity there is constrained by terminating Chiltern and CrossCountry services. Will there still be room each hour to reverse 4xFGW HSTs?
The XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) trains have almost an hour at Banbury, there seems to be scope for them to shunt via the down sidings to make room in the platforms.  There's also the option to reverse GW (Great Western) services at Aynho as said earlier.

What are the walking 'facilities' like at Aynho Junction? FGW (First Great Western) HST drivers will need to tramp from one end of their set to the other, as well as potentially pick up a pilot. Easy to do in Banbury station as has been the case previously. Not so easy to do at Aynho Junction.

Should Banbury still be constrained because of the Harbury landslip then I imagine there will be some rearrangement of pilot working for the FGW HST services. Pilots joining at Oxford for example and some less than ideal end swapping in the cess at Aynho.
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« Reply #519 on: February 14, 2015, 01:16:03 »

I believe a walking route was provided at Aynho as part of the work that was done to allow HSTs (High Speed Train) to divert along the Chiltern line. It should not be a problem for drivers to swap ends.
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« Reply #520 on: February 14, 2015, 03:16:04 »

Of course, in the not to distant future, if diverts onto the Chiltern Mainline are needed, there won't be a need to reverse at Banbury/Aynho.

That handy new curve at Bicester will be a boon.  Grin
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« Reply #521 on: February 14, 2015, 04:29:48 »

I believe a walking route was provided at Aynho as part of the work that was done to allow HSTs (High Speed Train) to divert along the Chiltern line. It should not be a problem for drivers to swap ends.

The problem being that no drivers will "swap ends" at Banbury (or Aynho).  Oxford and Swansea Drivers will drive Oxford - Banbury, Padd Drivers will be conducted by DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about) Schenker over Chiltern.
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« Reply #522 on: February 14, 2015, 07:34:31 »

Of course, in the not to distant future, if diverts onto the Chiltern Mainline are needed, there won't be a need to reverse at Banbury/Aynho.

That handy new curve at Bicester will be a boon.  Grin

But then the trains to be diverted will be largely electric and that will cause a slight problem - at least for a few years
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« Reply #523 on: February 14, 2015, 20:59:05 »

I believe a walking route was provided at Aynho as part of the work that was done to allow HSTs (High Speed Train) to divert along the Chiltern line. It should not be a problem for drivers to swap ends.

The problem being that no drivers will "swap ends" at Banbury (or Aynho).  Oxford and Swansea Drivers will drive Oxford - Banbury, Padd Drivers will be conducted by DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about) Schenker over Chiltern.

Many thanks for that very useful information, welsharagorn.  Smiley
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« Reply #524 on: February 14, 2015, 21:21:26 »

And they're both right!

Some early & late trains may carry Pad drivers from/to Oxford
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