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« on: August 02, 2023, 02:14:03 » |
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a "stock photo"? showed a royal mail TPO▸ ? news item had stated that two youths were detained after being found in a royal mail coach interfering with items.
I thought that all the red royal mail coach's were in the sidings or scrapped,or maybe this post could have posted in irrelevant stock photos.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2023, 05:28:17 » |
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a "stock photo"? showed a royal mail TPO▸ ? news item had stated that two youths were detained after being found in a royal mail coach interfering with items.
I thought that all the red royal mail coach's were in the sidings or scrapped,or maybe this post could have posted in irrelevant stock photos.
I'm not sure on current status but there was / is a minor revival of post (and parcels?) by train using electric multiple units on the West Coast. The loco hauled coaches, yes, are gone. |
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2023, 05:58:53 » |
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Thank you Grahame for the reply,any one else with any thoughts?
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2023, 06:50:12 » |
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Sorting on the move on the TPO▸ (Travelling Post Office) trains ended in 2004. These were the loco-hauled trains shown in the classic 1930s film 'Night Mail'. As Graham says there are still a few mail-only trains on long-distance routes. They carry trolleys of mail between major sorting centres, and are used as an alternative to HGVs. For more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325 |
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2023, 08:39:55 » |
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If you look on Real-time trains you will see there are services to and from the Princess Royal Distribution Centre at Willesden, Warrington, Low Fell in Newcastle and the Scottish Distribution Centre at Shieldmuir.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2023, 08:56:27 » |
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Spoilt what might have made an amusing subject title - "Great Train Robbery v2 foiled" From The BBC» Teenagers arrested over alleged mail train theft attempt
Two teenagers have been arrested over an alleged attempt to steal from a mail train in the south of Scotland.
British Transport Police said the alarm was raised at 01:42 following reports that two young men had gained access to a Royal Mail service at Lockerbie.
Officers said nothing was believed to have been stolen but a number of parcels were "interfered with".
A signal box was also damaged causing disruption on the west coast mainline, between Carlisle and Lockerbie.
As a result of the incident the lines between Carlisle and Lockerbie were closed.
A police spokesman said: "Officers attended and a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old were located in a carriage and arrested.
"At this stage it's not believed anything was stolen but a number of parcels in the carriage had been interfered with.
"Both young men have been charged with malicious mischief, theft and threatening and abusive behaviour." |
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2023, 09:58:46 » |
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"Both young men have been charged with malicious mischief, theft and threatening and abusive behaviour."
There has to be far more serious charges available specific to the railway, yes? Also, thinking of the train crew - presumably a driver working alone, coming to a halt in an isolated rural location, the signalling having been interfered with and then with persons unknown breaking in to the train, that's not an easy situation to deal with. Mark |
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2023, 10:07:33 » |
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Sorting on the move on the TPO▸ (Travelling Post Office) trains ended in 2004.
The last TPO mail loaded aboard a TPO, would that have been at Yatton, on Great Western Coffeeshop's patch? 20th anniversary next year then... Photo from 10/1/2004. At 1:20 am. *Blinks* Mark  |
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2023, 10:17:36 » |
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Sorting on the move on the TPO▸ (Travelling Post Office) trains ended in 2004.
The last TPO mail loaded aboard a TPO, would that have been at Yatton, on Great Western Coffeeshop's patch? 20th anniversary next year then... Photo from 10/1/2004. At 1:20 am. *Blinks* Mark And there's a nice cafe in Yatton station, just right for a Coffeeshop anniversary jolly. Though it won't actually be open at 1:20am... |
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2023, 10:19:18 » |
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From Wikipedia -
"During the 1990s, the Royal Mail, Britain's main customer for TPOs▸ , ordered 16 four-car British Rail Class 325 electric multiple units to replace locomotive-hauled counterparts in handling parcels."
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"However, wider economic factors, including increasingly effective mechanical sorting methods in comparison to the TPO's manned sorting, along with operational safety concerns, made it increasingly unattractive to continue operating such services. Accordingly, the final regular TPO service in Great Britain was performed on 9 January 2004"
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2023, 10:26:29 » |
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Yep - sorting on the go ceased nearly 20 years ago. Carrying continues to this day. And, yes, I suspect that's moved very much from letters to parcels. Partly a safety thing. Very much like serving hot drinks on the go until now has been accepted, but come 20 years time we'll look back and be amazed it was considered safe.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2023, 10:33:04 » |
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If you remember, there have been a couple of projects by newbie companies to run point-point parcels trunking trains rather like the 325s. Obviously they have seen a market there, though I don't thing any has been huge success so far.
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Mark A
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2023, 11:27:16 » |
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I doubted Graham's assertion of H&S▸ issues aboard the TPOs▸ , but then found this - from page 49 a good slice of the life and times of post by rail. Also of the automatic exchange apparatus, which went out of use considerably before 2004. "the apparatus arrangement is in operation at Flax Bourton, Nailsea, Yatton, and Hewish, chiefly in connection with the 6.15 a.m. train ex Bristol. It rarely happens that any failures occur at Fishponds or Hewish, but vagaries of the apparatus are more frequent at Yatton. About once a year something or other goes wrong, the pouch usually being dropped and carried along by the train, with mutilation of the mail bags and a general scattering of the letters. On the last occasion, after the line had been searched up and down, the embankment closely looked over, and the ground on the other side of the hedge on the down side closely scrutinized, all unavailingly, some two or three days [Pg 61] after the accident a bundle of letters was picked up which, such was the force of the impact, had been "skied" into a field over two hedges of an intervening lane."Mark https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34197/34197-h/34197-h.htm |
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