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Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May.
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« Reply #331 on: May 01, 2023, 18:00:37 » |
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Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May.
In a parallel universe, a man and his dog are in the middle of the Caribbean, hoping that someone else gets a photo of the steam loco 'Isle of Man'... |
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« Reply #332 on: May 01, 2023, 18:22:15 » |
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Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May.
In a parallel universe, a man and his dog are in the middle of the Caribbean, hoping that someone else gets a photo of the steam loco 'Isle of Man'... shouldn't that be "The Isle of Man"?  |
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« Reply #333 on: May 27, 2023, 14:40:12 » |
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« Reply #334 on: May 27, 2023, 15:10:24 » |
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Absolutely pathetic piece of poor journalism,from Telegraph Reporters ,that means more than one who won't put a name to the article.
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« Reply #335 on: May 27, 2023, 15:42:22 » |
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On this important issue of whether or not to use a definite article: it occurs to me that no-one bats an eyebrow when the first steam loco to reach 100mph is referred to as ‘the’ City of Truro, or an ocean liner is referred to as ‘the’ QE2. So I inquired of the Google to see what it said, and found this: https://www.englishcurrent.com/grammar/definite-article-place-names-geography/It seems that names with ‘of’ get a definite article, so that explains the City of Truro (maybe!) but not the QE2… The article also says street names never get one, which plainly isn’t true as I do most of my shopping on the Gloucester Road. Although today we got the train over to Clifton Down and pottered up and down Whiteladies Road, which never gets a ‘the’. I guess the most important thing is that we communicate in ways that other people can understand, and try not to get too cross with people whose understanding of the rules differs from ours. |
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« Reply #336 on: May 27, 2023, 15:52:26 » |
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The article also says street names never get one, which plainly isn’t true as I do most of my shopping on the Gloucester Road. Although today we got the train over to Clifton Down and pottered up and down Whiteladies Road, which never gets a ‘the’.
I guess the most important thing is that we communicate in ways that other people can understand, and try not to get too cross with people whose understanding of the rules differs from ours.
Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! One of the delights of the English language are its vagaries, and there are too many grammar Nazis around these days - I think social media has encouraged it. |
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« Reply #337 on: May 27, 2023, 15:58:34 » |
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I was on holiday so missed seeing The Braunton going though the Templecombe station.
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« Reply #338 on: May 27, 2023, 19:38:06 » |
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Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! Ahhhh, but that IS the name of the road. It isn't called just 'Cut' is it? |
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« Reply #339 on: May 27, 2023, 22:52:56 » |
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One of the delights of the English language are its vagaries…
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« Reply #340 on: May 28, 2023, 15:59:31 » |
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Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! Ahhhh, but that IS the name of the road. It isn't called just 'Cut' is it? The road that links Trafalgar Square to Aldwych in London is called "Strand" but is universally known as The Strand. |
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« Reply #341 on: May 28, 2023, 16:12:12 » |
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The A580 from Salford to Liverpool is called East Lancashire Road, but is universally known as The East Lancs Road
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« Reply #342 on: May 28, 2023, 20:28:53 » |
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The elegant road in the centre of Cheltenham is called Promenade but people always refer to it at The Promenade. In this case there is a credible reason, to avoid spoken confusion between "Promenade" (the road) and "promenade" (take a walk). In older times the posh people promenaded on The Promenade, indeed into the early twentieth century a policeman would keep the hoi polloi away from promenading on The Promenade, though they were free to promenade on the nearby High Street.
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« Reply #343 on: May 29, 2023, 00:14:39 » |
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With apologies for going off at a tangent from this tangent (is that possible?): I’m reminded of the tale of a policeman who, on finding a dead body on Philadelphia St in Bristol, dragged it round the corner onto Penn St. Why? Because it was easier to spell.
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« Reply #344 on: May 29, 2023, 11:05:47 » |
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Google is technically correct, though wrong in this instance. Compare: I'm going to Ireland. He was born in the Republic of Ireland. They eat this in Indonesia. This is from the Philippines.
These rules apply to place names, not necessarily names of things.
Street names are a bit different. Gloucester Road is the name of a road, whereas the Gloucester road is the road that goes to Gloucester. It just happens that in the case of the road you (and I) shop on, this happens to be the same thing!
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