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« on: January 07, 2016, 07:03:51 » |
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Just seen this on the BBC» web site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35235864As someone who had just moved to the Newbury area at the time I remember this well - along with the appearance of Swampy (didn't he go on to protest at Manchester airport?) and the rare snails. I suppose at the time it was difficult to imagine that the A34 would just be accepted as part of the landscape...maybe in time the OLE▸ gantries will cease to be as controversial Of course we have also had the Greenham peace women (before my time) and various AWE protests...what a lively area to live in!
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 08:19:43 » |
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Wonder what happened to Swampy? He's probably got a high-powered corporate job by now
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 08:24:08 » |
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Wonder what happened to Swampy? He's probably got a high-powered corporate job by now
Head of marketing for HS2▸ ?
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Tim
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 09:26:32 » |
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Wonder what happened to Swampy? He's probably got a high-powered corporate job by now
Swampy - real name Daniel Hooper- is a friend of a friend. Last I heard he was working in forestry in Wales.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 10:52:50 » |
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I moved to W Berks around about the time the bypass opened, so only experienced the horrors of what Newbury was like before it opened for a short while.
It certainly doesn't stop the A339 through town getting pretty clogged to this day - often at weekends and when there's a race meeting on.
One of the interesting facts around the bypass is that a lot of crushed concrete from the demise of the 3000m of runway at Greenham Common got used in the construction.
Yes, "Swampy" did go on to sit in a tree near to the site of the 2nd runway at Manchester International. That got built aswell ;-)
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 11:05:30 » |
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I moved to W Berks around about the time the bypass opened, so only experienced the horrors of what Newbury was like before it opened for a short while.
It certainly doesn't stop the A339 through town getting pretty clogged to this day - often at weekends and when there's a race meeting on.
One of the interesting facts around the bypass is that a lot of crushed concrete from the demise of the 3000m of runway at Greenham Common got used in the construction.
Yes, "Swampy" did go on to sit in a tree near to the site of the 2nd runway at Manchester International. That got built aswell ;-)
You are spot on about traffic on race days. I believe on the most recent race day the new bridge over the railway (and the eastern end of the race course) was temporarily opened but because I don't remember venturing into that part of the world that day I can't recall what effect it had. As you probably know the Boundary Line road bridge, which needs to be raised to allow the OLE▸ for the track which it crosses, is now closed for a year. As for protesters (generally) I have no problem with peaceful demonstrations but some of the tactics the A34 protesters (and the Greenham Peace Camp women for that matter) used were a little unsavoury. Regarding Greenham common there was collective local disbelief when the council agreed to a memorial to the peace movement being built!
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didcotdean
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 12:20:52 » |
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As a major road, the Newbury bypass seems sub-standard in a lot of respects, particularly the layout of some of the junctions and lay-bys.
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 12:26:28 » |
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As a major road, the Newbury bypass seems sub-standard in a lot of respects, particularly the layout of some of the junctions and lay-bys.
I agree - but prior to the Newbury bypass stretch being built Newbury was a major bottleneck for traffic coming from the M3 to the M40...as far as I know there are no longer any roundabouts between these two points which is great for through traffic.
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didcotdean
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 14:02:22 » |
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The main pinch point then becoming Chievely (largely solved just after the turn of the century with a dog's dinner of an interchange), and junctions with the M40 and M3.
Need to work out what to do at Botley though too really.
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 15:17:07 » |
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The main pinch point then becoming Chievely (largely solved just after the turn of the century with a dog's dinner of an interchange), and junctions with the M40 and M3.
Need to work out what to do at Botley though too really.
I think "Dogs Dinner" is probably a good way of describing the A34/M4 junction at Chievely. If I have been north I do not like the section where you have to switch from the A34 to the A339 which I would consider to be a "high speed" crossover Moving north, if you sort out the north bound traffic delays at Botley you then make the problem at the junction with the M40 even worse!
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Tim
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 15:17:52 » |
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Thanks, Having 4 children isn't very green is it.
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 15:28:36 » |
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Thanks, Having 4 children isn't very green is it. MMMmmm.not sure I agree about the lack of greeness Tim ..if I read the article correctly there are no electricity or water supplies to the site where they live. So how they wash I have no idea!
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 19:34:18 » |
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I moved to W Berks around about the time the bypass opened, so only experienced the horrors of what Newbury was like before it opened for a short while.
It certainly doesn't stop the A339 through town getting pretty clogged to this day - often at weekends and when there's a race meeting on.
One of the interesting facts around the bypass is that a lot of crushed concrete from the demise of the 3000m of runway at Greenham Common got used in the construction.
Yes, "Swampy" did go on to sit in a tree near to the site of the 2nd runway at Manchester International. That got built aswell ;-)
You are spot on about traffic on race days. I believe on the most recent race day the new bridge over the railway (and the eastern end of the race course) was temporarily opened but because I don't remember venturing into that part of the world that day I can't recall what effect it had. As you probably know the Boundary Line road bridge, which needs to be raised to allow the OLE▸ for the track which it crosses, is now closed for a year. As for protesters (generally) I have no problem with peaceful demonstrations but some of the tactics the A34 protesters (and the Greenham Peace Camp women for that matter) used were a little unsavoury. Regarding Greenham common there was collective local disbelief when the council agreed to a memorial to the peace movement being built! Somewhat OT, but while I don't remember the specific tactics used by the Greenham women, I do think that it's a mistake to refuse to commemorate significant events and people because we find them unsavoury. They happened, and that's what should be remembered, hopefully in good and bad aspects: just as we have a statue of a major philanthropist in the centre of Bristol who happened to be a slave trader or as the names of Lenin and Stalin need to remembered, in celebration and condemnation, in Eastern Europe.
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John R
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2016, 20:05:23 » |
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The main pinch point then becoming Chievely (largely solved just after the turn of the century with a dog's dinner of an interchange), and junctions with the M40 and M3.
Need to work out what to do at Botley though too really.
There is a proposal (announced late 14) to provide a free flowing link southbound from the A34 to the M3, but I suspect it is still several years away.
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