Adelante

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[swlines]

The TGS is required for driver-guard buzzer communication I thought... as on Grand Central they require the buffet for that...

[Lee]

...as the 05.42 HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from Hereford was apparently terminated at Didcot. It was running 40 or so late at Oxford with a faulty train.

More on this in the link below.
http://trainfellows.blogspot.com/2008/02/first-day-back.html

[dog box]

 An HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) cannot operate without a TGS due to the fact this vehicle contains essential safety equipment

[willc]

Fine, guess what was seen was a formation of four first opens, two second opens, plus a TGS and probably a buffet

Someone's going to have fun trying to reassemble all that lot into something looking like a normal rake, along with all the other oddments out there at the moment (HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) minus a coach H in first was on the 07.51 London to Malvern yesterday), especially if an all-HST service is supposed to be running from Monday, Feb 18, as I have heard, backing up Jim's earlier suggestion.

[devon_metro]

Send it to Laira and sorted. Plenty of random stock lying around there!

[smokey]

An HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) cannot operate without a TGS due to the fact this vehicle contains essential safety equipment

It can IF the safety equipment IS Transfered to another carriage, but that takes WILL POWER and FGW^▸ (First Great Western) train crew are seriously lacking will power thanks to all the hastle the've had in the past two years.

We the WILLING led by the UNKNOWNING etc.

[Mookiemoo]

Sadly - I think getting rid of th adelantes will just put turbos back on the longer routes.

Todays 0841 WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) to PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (which was an adelante last week) was a 166 today

I for one dread going back to that

[willc]

But this was the first time this year that a Turbo has appeared on that duty that I know about (and I use it three or four days a week).

The Adelante appears to have been revived later in the day, as there's nothing on the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) website suggesting that the 17.51 to Worcester, which is part of the same daily diagram as the 05.42 from London/08.37 from Foregate Street, is being operated by a Turbo (ie short-formed with three carriages), unless you know different, while that notice was posted on the website about the service this morning.

I gather from FGW staff that, in theory, the 05.42 duty should be an HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from a week on Monday. Fingers crossed Turbo stand-ins will be very much the exception. I can't remember seeing anything other than an HST on the 07.51 and 08.51 departures from Paddington in the past five weeks.

Where Turbos have been turning up recently when they shouldn't seems mainly to have been at weekends, and even then, they are a rarity, whereas in November and December they were regular performers - or maybe I just kept picking the wrong trains to catch.

[redskin125]

HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s have to run with a TGS, whether the vehicle is in or out of passenger use. I had an HST running for 2 day's without a TGS, having arranged for all the equipment carried in it to be transferred to the staff closet in the buffet car. No thanks for running 2 days worth of services with it, just a curt reminder from 'senior' management not to do it again.

[Chris from Nailsea]

No thanks for running 2 days worth of services with it, just a curt reminder from 'senior' management not to do it again.

Well, for what it's worth, as a passenger, I'd say 'thank you for your customer-centric efforts to at least provide a service'!   

[Jim]

HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s have to run with a TGS, whether the vehicle is in or out of passenger use. I had an HST running for 2 day's without a TGS, having arranged for all the equipment carried in it to be transferred to the staff closet in the buffet car. No thanks for running 2 days worth of services with it, just a curt reminder from 'senior' management not to do it again.

Yet again, we see that Common Sense is banned from the railways!

[dog box]

I think you must be mistaken about HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) sets running around minus the TGS, to put it simply this coach is fundamental to the operation of the CDL^▸ (Central Door Locking) System so without a major rewire it aint possible

[swlines]

Quite.

And that's the same reason that Grand Central are having difficulties getting up and running with their second and third sets. Marcroft haven't yet released the buffet coaches, which is where the safety equipment is located in their sets.

[Mookiemoo]

I think you must be mistaken about HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) sets running around minus the TGS, to put it simply this coach is fundamental to the operation of the CDL^▸ (Central Door Locking) System so without a major rewire it aint possible

Wots TGS?

[swlines]

Trailer Guard Standard

That coach that is nowhere near First Class that the guards little hidey-hole is