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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2024, 16:01:27 » |
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Thirteen (or fourteen) minutes by train, but over thirty (35 actually) by bus.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2024, 20:29:06 » |
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Can someone confirm the Henley - Marlow - Thames Path 'easement' arrangements on this and the Henley branch that allows one to travel via one and return by the other, facilitating that Thames walk (with a nice pub in the middle I believe). I have looked it up in the Routeing Guide (Table E) but have drawn a blank.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2024, 20:57:19 » |
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Not an easement, but interavailability for the Off Peak Day Return to allow walking the Thames Path.
Buy your Off Peak Day Return to furthest point from your origin station. The destination choices are Henley, Marlow and Windsor & Eton Central.
Not widely publicised but I believe the interavailability is still valid.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2024, 21:15:13 » |
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Not widely publicised but I believe the interavailability is still valid.
Any idea where that is documented? |
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2024, 23:14:17 » |
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It doesn't say that the ticket arrangement is in place. Is it entirely informal ?
I was going to post the example on Geoffs website, but did not want to do so until I have absolute proof that I am not peddling myths.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2024, 09:08:45 » |
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It doesn't say that the ticket arrangement is in place. Is it entirely informal ?
I was going to post the example on Geoffs website, but did not want to do so until I have absolute proof that I am not peddling myths.
We have previously searched from the forum, but linked documents seem obscure and no longer current. It is not in the routing guide easement list where I would have expected to find something similar to this example from elsewhere: 700784 Manual
Holders of tickets from Kyle of Lochalsh to either Glasgow or Edinburgh, may join Scotrail only operated trains at Mallaig. They will need to make their own arrangements to travel between Kyle of Lochalsh and Mallaig, as railway tickets are not valid on bus and ferry connections between the two locations. This manual easement will not operate in online journey planning systems. |
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2024, 09:39:50 » |
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It is not in the routing guide easement list where I would have expected to find something similar to this example from elsewhere:
Thank you Graham. It was where I first went looking too. Could someone with social media savvy (and that is definitely not me!) reach out to GWR▸ and see if this well thought-out arrangement is still in place and if so, where it is documented. Good intentions are of no defence if one was to meet the autonomous "we-are-revenue-protection" brigade. I have sadly seen them in action. |
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2024, 09:40:27 » |
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The Kyle / Mallaig easement might be linked to the need to provide for passengers on certain ferries that may change their port of arrival between Mallaig and e.g. Uig on Skye for various reasons, though in that case it might be expected to see Oban on that list as well, though I don't know the ferries well enough to be aware if Oban's a bit of a variable too. The trains aside, it must be a bit of an issue if you have a vehicle parked up at Mallaig and your ferry decides to head for Uig...
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2024, 09:46:04 » |
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It is not in the routing guide easement list where I would have expected to find something similar to this example from elsewhere:
Thank you Graham. It was where I first went looking too. Could someone with social media savvy (and that is definitely not me!) reach out to GWR▸ and see if this well thought-out arrangement is still in place and if so, where it is documented. Good intentions are of no defence if one was to meet the autonomous "we-are-revenue-protection" brigade. I have sadly seen them in action. I don't post to Twitter any more but have just asked what is purportedly their Bluesky account. (A reply might not be forthcoming as allegedly many TOCs▸ are awaiting an update to whatever software it is that they use to coordinate their various social media activities) Mark |
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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2024, 09:59:25 » |
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It doesn't say that the ticket arrangement is in place. Is it entirely informal ?
I was going to post the example on Geoffs website, but did not want to do so until I have absolute proof that I am not peddling myths.
This is all very old-fashioned - defined in the National Fares Manual and nowhere else. According to the RailUK Fares & Ticketing Guide, there is a list of such interavailability concessions in the Manual (and probably another list for Scotrail). This list was made available there "with permission from ATOC» " in 2018. There are a lot more of them than you think! The relevant one reads: | Origin/destination shown on ticket | Henley-on-Thames | | Also available to travel to/from | Bourne End, Cookham, Furze Platt, Marlow, Shiplake, Wargrave or Windsor & Eton Central | | Inter-availability applies to these ticket types and/or tickets issued from: | Off-Peak Day Returns only. Ticket must be
issued to the furthest point. | | TOC▸ fare setter (to whom any enquiries regarding this interavailability arrangement should be directed) | Great Western Railway |
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2024, 10:42:34 » |
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Thank you stuving - I have mirrored the file for members at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/mirror/interavailable_origin_dest.pdfI actually used the concession on 19th June 2021 - from Melksham, ticket to Marlow but travelled out to Henley. I was prepared to explain my ticket if asked between Twyford and Henley, but there was no ticket check and I can't report of the awareness of staff or the currentness of the information in the ATOC» document. It almost feels like a disappointment when using an unusual ticket arrangement to not be checked. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2024, 13:25:01 » |
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... have just asked what is purportedly their Bluesky account. (A reply might not be forthcoming as allegedly many TOCs▸ are awaiting an update to whatever software it is that they use to coordinate their various social media activities)
They were already gathering a smatter of attention and this morning have responded to all that they're not quite ready to field responses via Bluesky yet. They're also in the process of sorting the domain handle thing. Mark
https://bsky.app/profile/gwruk.bsky.social/post/3lbjobxgpf32w |
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