Storm Babet

bobm

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Re: Storm Babet

« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2023, 19:59:17 »

Is it just GWR^▸ though? Network Rail control the signalling and therefore the option to run reversible on the up line. Can GWR insist on it?


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Re: Storm Babet

« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2023, 20:17:24 »

Quote from: Trowres on October 19, 2023, 16:05:00

Apparently on its way from Newton Abbot to Stoke Gifford at 15:15. 800007+802114 according to RTT^» .
Just passed Cowley Bridge Jn at 16:04.

Finally made it to bed at 1853, without further drama.


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Re: Storm Babet

« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2023, 20:47:26 »

Quote from: bobm on October 19, 2023, 19:59:17

Is it just GWR^▸ though? Network Rail control the signalling and therefore the option to run reversible on the up line. Can GWR insist on it?

Network Rail will have staff on sight who will travel up and down on the trains when rough weather is expected. They would normally be the first port of call when it comes to closing the down main.
Other than that, if Network Rail receives reports from drivers via the signallers stating waves are crashing over, debris or potential that may give them cause to close the down main.
GWR Control would be unlikely to demand that course of action.


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Re: Storm Babet

« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2023, 23:12:23 »

The subtext here appears to be a collective bout of 'get there-itis' among management, control and Network Rail. In this instance the only damage was to rolling stock. But 'get there-itis' can often lead to degraded safety. What if there had been a track defect caused by the waves? What if there had been another instance of smashed windows?

Continuing to send IETs^▸ through after one failure does appear to have been a little reckless, notwithstanding the known issues with the Hitachi product versus seawater. CrossCountry rightly stopped their Voyagers in the first instance. Different level of risk of damage from seawater perhaps, but seemingly more prudent. They now don't have five sets at Central Rivers TMD^▸ needing repair. GWRs^▸ actions will have knock on effects for days to come due to 'more trains than usual needing repairs'. Largely self inflicted.

In our fragmented railway system who does the buck stop with? Mark Hopwood? Giuseppe Marino? Michelle Handforth? The weather god of your choice?


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