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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Bath Spa - Bristol fares (when purchased as part of a longer journey)
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on: April 15, 2022, 15:18:14
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There are some fascinating anomalies even on normal journeys ... lowest cost return fares to London (off peak or super off peak, cheapest route, though not looking at advance tickets)
Bristol Parkway £41.00 Swindon £54.00
So since a Bristol Parkway to London ticket is valid via Swindon and can be used short, there should be no sales of Swindon to London tickets, since they are required to sell you the cheapest ticket valid for your journey. Or am I missing something? The £41 fare quoted from Bristol Parkway is an off-peak day return routed via Warminster and Salisbury. The £54 fare quoted from Swindon is a super off-peak return, via any permitted route. The comparable fare (same ticket type and route) from Bristol Parkway is £67.20.
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Ticketing - simply explained??
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on: January 19, 2022, 16:31:16
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I remember these ticket types well from my student days. Network Awaybreak was the walk-up off-peak 5 day return in the former Network South East (NSE▸ ) area, launched some time in the 80s. NSE later introduced the Network Stayaway for longer distance flows (e.g. Waterloo - Exeter and Weymouth lines), which was similar but allowed return travel within one month. A bit like the old InterCity saver product. I don't know how long these products lasted beyond privatisation.
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Journey by Journey / Transport for London / Re: PseudoRails, Rails and FutureRails to Heathrow
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on: January 19, 2022, 16:21:23
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Help in refining this list would be appreciated! From Paddington: Heathrow Junction, 19.1.1988 to 23.6.1988 Heathrow Central, from 23.6.1988 Heathrow Terminal 4, from 23.6.1988 Heathrow Terminal 5, from 27.3.2008
A minor refinement - the services from Paddington started in 1998 rather than 1988. Then Heathrow Connect was launched in 2005 (now operated by TfL» and hopefully to become fully part of Elizabeth Line some time in 2022)
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Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
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on: September 10, 2021, 13:04:27
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Side effect from another piece of research - official mantra is that three stations loose their direct trains to / from London when "the Waterloo" ceases in December. They are Oldfield Park, Bradford-on-Avon and Trowbridge. But note that Keynsham will drop (I think) to just one train a day - timed to help in the peak hour loadings from there into and out of Temple Meads (and not at the times that the good people of Keynsham will want to go to London) and look at this for Warminster:
Even today (far short of pre-Covid service from SWR» ), there are trains to Waterloo at 07:48, 11:44, 14:23, 15:52, and 16:47 with one as far as Basingstoke at 20:24. From December, just one a day to Waterloo - the 14:23 (which is hardly the most attractive of these time). There is just one arrival back from Waterloo, leaving London at 07:50. The 12:20, 16:20 and 19:20 from London (in today's running) all cease.
Has it been flagged up in Warminster that they to are loosing three quarters of their London trains?
Looking at Real Time Trains for December, it appears that the departures from Warminster at 0748, 1148 and 1552 attach to other trains at Salisbury and then continue to Waterloo.
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Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Timetable Posters - Heart of Wessex
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on: November 06, 2018, 17:58:13
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I am delighted to see that an A-Z departure poster has recently appeared in one of the poster displays on the platform at Frome Station. This is a significant improvement in information provision, since it now shows all train departures from Frome, and displays a good range of destinations (including some which involve connecting services).
Unfortunately the excellent A-Z departure poster at Frome station appears to have disappeared. I suspect it may be hidden under this poster concerning the SWR» industrial action, which affects a handful of weekday trains at Frome. Fortunately GWR▸ 's Famous Five marketing poster is still on display.  (sorry the pic is rather large)
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: MetroBus
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on: October 25, 2018, 12:17:45
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It seems to me that the causes of late running are largely predictable. For example: Students have turned up in September in previous years; the roadworks near Temple Meads were know about long in advance; general congestion due to volume of traffic happens each day. I can't believe that this was a surprise to the manager who went out to drive the bus. These factors all need to be taken into consideration when designing the timetable. The result would be longer (potentially much longer), more realistic journey times in the timetable, especially at peak times. The problem for the operator is that to maintain service frequency with longer journey times requires more vehicles in traffic. Sadly it appears that First are struggling to provide enough vehicles/drivers even for the current timetable.
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Journey by Journey / London to Kennet Valley / Re: First IET to call at Bedwyn in passenger service
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on: July 02, 2018, 14:27:49
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Today's 1707 Paddington to Frome service was pipped at the post as the first IET▸ passenger service at the Berks and Hants stations by the 1807 on the same journey last Thursday (28/06). This was a substitute for the planned HST▸ , and was formed of 5 coaches. It managed some impressively short dwell times at the small stations, such that a 12 minute late departure from Reading was transformed into a right time arrival into Frome.
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Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: Rail replacement services - small things could make a big difference
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on: April 24, 2018, 08:58:03
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Absolutely agree, it's the attention to detail during major service alterations which can successfully mitigate the impact on many customers. As is common however, the service provision has not always been planned around the journeys people actually want to make. As an example, during the Berks and Hants blockade last time, I was waiting for a train at Westbury station early in the morning. A lady arrived and asked staff how she could get to Hungerford, her usual trains at 0616 and 0701 not running.
Well there is a rail replacement bus to Pewsey at 0645 arriving at 0735. However this terminates at Pewsey, and the passenger demand for such a service is such that a single taxi would probably be overprovision. There is also a rail replacement bus from Pewsey to Hungerford, unfortunately timed to leave five minutes before the bus from Westbury arrives. So a passenger flow with virtually zero demand (Westbury to Pewsey first thing in the morning) is served, whereas other flows with demonstrable demand (Westbury to Hungerford/Newbury) are not effectively served. From what I overheard, the lady in question was advised to travel to Reading via Bath (at least 90 minutes), and then pick up a bus taking nearly an hour to Hungerford. The usual journey time is about 35 minutes. This issue could easily have been mitigated with attention to such details in planning replacement services.
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Alternatives to the station buffet
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on: December 11, 2017, 09:32:41
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Has anyone used The Platform on the station approach road at Frome? It is very small and isolated away from virtually everything else in the town, and easily missed if you come out of the station, so I'm somewhat amazed it is surviving. I can't imagine that Frome has enough train users to keep it going.
The cafe outside Frome Station gets plenty of trade from local trading units. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to open until after 8am, so they miss out on the trade from the 100+ rail passengers who use the departures between 0605 and 0802. They could probably get a bit of trade from those on the 1015, which often has 50+ passengers waiting on the platform (and more on Saturday for the 1007).
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Journey by Journey / Portsmouth to Cardiff / Re: Any larks out there??
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on: November 30, 2017, 05:56:19
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I have travelled in the past on both the 0524 and 0549 from Westbury as far as Salisbury, and indeed they are lightly loaded as one might expect. I would guess that the capacity of these trains is driven more by the expected loadings later in their circuits when they hit the morning peak. The 0524, when it terminates at Salisbury, attaches to a couple of SWT▸ trains to bring back to Westbury on the 0602 (and then there are various bits of detaching and shunting at Westbury). It looks as though not only is the GW» train short by a coach, but one of the SW trains is not being attached? This might cause problems later on.
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Fare advise update - West Wilts and Frome to London
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on: November 29, 2017, 10:54:37
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Thanks, that's very useful.
I would add that the fares from Frome to London via Warminster/Salisbury are often cheaper than those from Westbury and Warminster. So, for example, the Off peak day return to Waterloo from Frome is £35.10 (same as Shirehampton), whereas from Westbury it's £40.90 super off peak or £50.90 off peak. In the morning I often get the 0640 from Westbury, which has a good connection at Salisbury for Waterloo. Many passengers boarding at Warminster purchase tickets originating from Frome (about £65 return instead of about £80).
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